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Old Mar 6, 2022 | 08:17 PM
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My 2020 had gear whine, and my 2021 also has gear whine. I'm not crazy about it, but I know I'll have to live with it. Hopefully, they will improve it in a few years when I get a Z06 (or maybe I won't be able to hear it over the engine noise ). By the way, putting the exhaust in Track Mode helps the gear whine.
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Old Mar 8, 2022 | 12:06 PM
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Mine had a whine for the first maybe 6000 miles. It went away.
I wouldnt have replaced the transmission unless it got significantly worse. It was mild.
Having a trans repalced is a negative mark on the cars history. That event implies there was something seriously wrong with it.
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Old Mar 8, 2022 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GTUnit
Mine had a whine for the first maybe 6000 miles. It went away.
I wouldnt have replaced the transmission unless it got significantly worse. It was mild.
Having a trans repalced is a negative mark on the cars history. That event implies there was something seriously wrong with it.
Interesting that it went away. I mostly agree with your ‘take’ on transmission replacement, but if GM agrees that sound levels warrant a replacement, then that seemed to be a prudent thing to do.
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Old Mar 8, 2022 | 12:35 PM
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Interesting that it went away. I mostly agree with your ‘take’ on transmission replacement, but if GM agrees that sound levels warrant a replacement, then that seemed to be a prudent thing to do.
Keep in mind that with the C8, in the era of heavy social media exposure, GM may be more inclined to do whatever it takes to keep the customer happy (quiet) rather then what is most prudent by mechanical standards. If it annoys someone enough to where there is a risk of them making a stink about, and damaging halo model perception, it they may fix it whereas some years ago they may have advised against it.

This is a cool video on gear setup if you want to nerd out like me.

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Old Mar 8, 2022 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GTUnit
Keep in mind that with the C8, in the era of heavy social media exposure, GM may be more inclined to do whatever it takes to keep the customer happy (quiet) rather then what is most prudent by mechanical standards. If it annoys someone enough to where there is a risk of them making a stink about, and damaging halo model perception, it they may fix it whereas some years ago they may have advised against it.

This is a cool video on gear setup if you want to nerd out like me.
Ring & Pinion Patterns explained, back lash vs pinion depth - YouTube

I agree that GM might have been trying to ‘get me happy’. But if the OE tranny wasn’t defective, replacing it with another that is equally noisy is counterproductive. It just pisses me off more for going through a lot of anguish for no improvement. I’m still waiting to hear what they say about the 2nd trany

Many thanks for the video. Tech is me. I’m an ME by trade ... with OCD ... so it’s right up my alley. Ha! I wish the narrator would have explained the effect of having the pattern ‘off’.

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Old Mar 12, 2022 | 03:04 PM
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I agree that GM might have been trying to ‘get me happy’. But if the OE tranny wasn’t defective, replacing it with another that is equally noisy is counterproductive. It just pisses me off more for going through a lot of anguish for no improvement. I’m still waiting to hear what they say about the 2nd trany

Many thanks for the video. Tech is me. I’m an ME by trade ... with OCD ... so it’s right up my alley. Ha! I wish the narrator would have explained the effect of having the pattern ‘off’.
So ... Tremac is saying the replacement transaxle is within limits for noise & vibration so they are unwilling to do anything further. I’ve added some dampening and soundproofing but weather and road conditions have prevented me from testing it out. Hopefully this week.

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Old Mar 17, 2022 | 10:56 AM
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So ... Tremac is saying the replacement transaxle is within limits for noise & vibration so they are unwilling to do anything further. I’ve added some dampening and soundproofing but weather and road conditions have prevented me from testing it out. Hopefully this week.
I finally got the car out yesterday to ‘test’ my insulation. It did dampen the whine slightly, but did not eliminate it. Disappointing.... but I’ll deal with it. Might eventually trade for an E ray or Z06 so I hope they have it improved in a few years.
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Old Mar 30, 2022 | 08:18 PM
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I have been an auto tech for 35 years & owned a Corvette shop for 20 years. I bought a 22 3/26/22 that has only made the trip home. Has 30 miles on it now. Heard the diff whine on the way home & was concerned. In any of the previous generations what I heard would indicate a problem. After reading this & looking at the design I will attempt to turn off my mechanic ear.
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I have been an auto tech for 35 years & owned a Corvette shop for 20 years. I bought a 22 3/26/22 that has only made the trip home. Has 30 miles on it now. Heard the diff whine on the way home & was concerned. In any of the previous generations what I heard would indicate a problem. After reading this & looking at the design I will attempt to turn off my mechanic ear.
Why accept it? Hypoid gear sets have been common for many decades. I don’t understand why it should have an inherent whine in this application. GM should be able to do better. I can’t turn off my ear.
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Old Mar 31, 2022 | 09:01 AM
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Per fellow member ZeroDark30 ( thank-you sir!) has indicated that the transaxle assembly is being moved to a Canadian GM facility (from a Tremec plant). It’s unclear what .... or if any.... improvements will result from the change. Apparently the move is underway but a completion date is unclear. If anyone has additional info regarding the move, I’d very much like to hear from you. My dealer has offered to order me a ‘23 in the hope of getting me happy, but I don’t want to order too soon if an improvement is near. Thx all for your feedback.

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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 06:38 AM
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 08:39 AM
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The HD pickup trucks are known to produce gear whine at certain speeds. Totally normal per the way the ring and pinion are set up for the heavy duty use the truck will likely see.

Perhaps this is a similar situation? That the ring and pinion are set "aggressively" because of the hard launches capable with launch control? I've driven a few C7s before and almost all of those had some sort of gear whine. I drove a brand new Hyundai Kona N and it had some gear whine as well.
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Old Apr 4, 2022 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Newdude
The HD pickup trucks are known to produce gear whine at certain speeds. Totally normal per the way the ring and pinion are set up for the heavy duty use the truck will likely see.

Perhaps this is a similar situation? That the ring and pinion are set "aggressively" because of the hard launches capable with launch control? I've driven a few C7s before and almost all of those had some sort of gear whine. I drove a brand new Hyundai Kona N and it had some gear whine as well.

Perhaps you are right.... but I’m disappointed. I’ve never had a new vehicle with a ‘whiny’ differential. Older vehicles, - yes. I also have a C5 and C6 GS. Both are quiet.
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BJ67
Yes , I have rear gear whine between 50 and 60 mph on light throttle or maintaining speed on level ground, with just a little off throttle from 60 to 55 mph. I have a 2021 , 2600 miles, non Z51.
Exactly the same
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Old Apr 11, 2022 | 05:10 PM
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I’ve started to notice some diff gear whine in my ‘22 HTC. 700 miles. There’s a noticeable whine in the 65-70 mph range, regardless of gear. So I’m wondering if others have noticed it and if you’ve addressed it with GM? I’m probably more interested in hearing from those that don’t have an issue since I’m anticipating the “they all do that “ response. The local service Mgr has driven mine and stated ‘he wouldn’t be happy if it was his car’ ... so I hope he will go to bat for me. I made a similar post on the ‘general’ forum but didn’t get much useful info. I hope this group is more helpful.
I noticed a distinct whine as well right from the start - I have notified the dealership but haven't yet had a mechanic verify it - I'll keep you posted - It is noticeable enough to be bothersome.
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I picked up my 22 coupe 2lt Oct 1 and it has whined since that day. Dealer is looking into it but no info. I found your post today! Looks like it may be inherent for the C8 but I don't like it!!!
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Old Apr 12, 2022 | 11:11 PM
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I picked up my 22 coupe 2lt Oct 1 and it has whined since that day. Dealer is looking into it but no info. I found your post today! Looks like it may be inherent for the C8 but I don't like it!!!
I don’t like it either.... but not sure how common it is. I wish there was a opportunity to drive multiple cars. The new tranny is better, but it still whines.

My dealer has offered to order me a ‘23, but there is no way to guarantee it will be better. I’m going to go for it & hope for the best.

What does ‘looking into it’ entail? Keep us posted on your progress.
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I believe the service technician is researching it as I am doing on this thread. My dealer does not sell a lot of corvettes but I am the first to complain about the whine in the C8.
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Old Apr 14, 2022 | 08:42 PM
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I have a mechanic's ear as well and don't like the whine - especially since we are planning some multi-thousand mile road trips this summer. I expect it will drive me nuts.
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