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Frankly unless you are actively racing the car who cares.
bragging rights? Look at how many GS gets sold in each gen? Theyre slower than the base car to drive anywhere butba track and what percentage of GS owners are driving on track? 1%? Less? I wish chevy would just go all out like Porsche and Mercedes do and smoke them all with a factory stock yet modified like the 911s do and put down a 6:5X time like they did with the segmented lap for C7ZR. Honestly if they just posted segmented times and said they're segmented but this is what it equals? That would be great.
Originally Posted by Shinobi'sZ
Or have both. I kept my C7Z and have a '24 Z06, simply because I wanted to keep the last FE Vette and it has a 2650 on it making it even more fun.
Thays a great move. Unless the C7Z is a manual? get an E-Ray and slap a 2650 on that instead. The C8Z awd with that power must be insane because the stock one is under 120.
Originally Posted by PRE-Z06
Yes, the E-Ray is no slouch as it basically ran what the C7Z06 on Cup 2s did at VIR with P4S. Imagine what it would run had they put 2Rs on it? Don’t think they will as it’s like the 911 Turbo, I believe they purposely don’t put 2Rs on it to keep it from being as quick as the GT3.
Weird but yes and no as the 911 turbo out accelerates all Porsche 911s now at all speed. The E-Ray does the same to 60 and a 1/4mi but not beyond that.
Having owned both C8Z and now the E-Ray? On a tighter track the Z06 is not beating the E-Ray. Maybe the top of the drivers say a pobst level guy? But putting the E-Ray on 2r tires? Even he would best the C8Z on any track outside the ring imo.
it's counterintuitive to drive the E-Ray in anger vs the Z06. When the Z starts to get out on you or understeer you know what to expect.
when the E-Ray does it you have to fight your own brain and stay in it and use just the steering wheel while WOT and you just keep going. Having the mechanical and electric motor being completely separate is like having a guardian angel on your shoulder when the gas engine gets you in trouble the fwd pulls the car back in line. It's wild and not like any other awd vehicle you've driven. In a great way. Would love to see a ring time for the E-Ray but I'm afraid that track is just too high speed to be worth the effort. I'm guessing it would be in the low 20s because of the smaller battery and stock SR power above around 140-145 or so (at least according to the dash power indicator) and above 150 just a slower heavier SR. They are all compromised - except the 911 turbo s. That car on 2rs would be insane
With the Nurburgring thread at 400+ replies and a recent thread with $19k off MSRP for a Z07 vehicle it's safe to say the 'Ring time has negatively affected values of these cars. GM should have given Z06s a 7-Speed DCT with tighter gearing plus downforce numbers matching the much faster Germans. Truly unfortunate.
With the Nurburgring thread at 400+ replies and a recent thread with $19k off MSRP for a Z07 vehicle it's safe to say the 'Ring time has negatively affected values of these cars. GM should have given Z06s a 7-Speed DCT with tighter gearing plus downforce numbers matching the much faster Germans. Truly unfortunate.
You are absolutely clueless. And you revived a dormant/old thread just to be a troll? The amount of trolls, haters, and tribalist fanboys of other cars on this subforum is mind-boggling.
Chevy set out to build a track car the Z06 at the Car and Driver Lightning Lap on the VIR was the 6th fastest with the other 5 costing about twice as much. Even better they fixed the over heating issue the C7 Z06 had and beat the C7 Z06 time by 6 seconds. Zero lost in value.
Chevy set out to build a track car the Z06 at the Car and Driver Lightning Lap on the VIR was the 6th fastest with the other 5 costing about twice as much. Even better they fixed the over heating issue the C7 Z06 had and beat the C7 Z06 time by 6 seconds. Zero lost in value.
With devastating recent news that the fastest track spec C8 Z06 with Z07 package ran a yawn inspiring 7:10 lap time at the Nurburgring how much do we anticipate C8 Z06 values decreasing?
The guy who posted that doesn't even care. "Ring times" are BS. Those who claim to care about this are the ones sitting on the toilet reading car magazines and memorizing this useless metrics.
NOBODY is going to buy or not buy a Z06 based on a "Ring time". Ridiculous.
And I thought Chicken Little was soup years ago...
Due to the effort Ford and Multimatic has put into the GTD, that the Z06 has a negative cash value at this point. Thats right folks, you have to pay someone to even take it. Sellers should expect to pay at least $11,200.00 now and up to $22,434.00 to the new owner to sell their slow Z06 by the next couple months. Who would have thought. So many of us were headed there too to rip off our own 7:01:38 laps that for a time all of the boats were full. Now...you just have to take the car to the store.
By July 2025 when the Toyota Yaris achieves an excellent ring time, the sellers donation to the buyer will go up to $33,678.99. This is real science. No arguing.
I know many of us are on dealer lists for the GTD. Ford will make millions of them. It's a Mustang. I'm sure that Mustang owners have seen a thirty eight percent increase in value for V-8 models and up to a 14% increase in the 4 cylinder economy performance thrift version. Watch out for similar cratering GT3RS values as well. I am now seeing them parked on the street with "For Sale" signs in the windows and their proud graphics covered up. A pity.
Since these Mustangs are going to be so available, the good thing is if we all sell right now, this week, we can order the new GTD next week!
Who's with me? Let's go!!!!!!!
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The 'Ring time is a way too long circuit with way too many variables for me to give it a whole lot of "give a ****." Don't tell me GM gives AF about the 'Ring with the way they have performed for the last couple of high-end Corvettes. What are your average road course times in NASCAR, Indy, IMSA, or F1? Just over 1, 2, or maybe upwards of 3 minutes? The 'Ring has too much traffic, its too narrow, and its just too far away. I'd be much more interested in comparing times from the top 5 or 6 road courses here in the US; COTA, Road America, Road Atlanta, Sonoma, VIR, Watkins Glen. Don't care much for Laguna Seca, but that's me. I'm in the camp who speculate the problems with the C8Z are more self-induced (nannies are limiting throttle body,) than the car is actually "at its limits."
You are absolutely clueless. And you revived a dormant/old thread just to be a troll? The amount of trolls, haters, and tribalist fanboys of other cars on this subforum is mind-boggling.
I forgot CF is full of so many high value threads such as 'will an aftermarket license plate frame void my warranty' and 'what are the settings on Z mode' thanks for the reminder.
I forgot CF is full of so many high value threads such as 'will an aftermarket license plate frame void my warranty' and 'what are the settings on Z mode' thanks for the reminder.
People say they don’t care because of the 7+ minute performance. They would suddenly care and tout the result endlessly if the result was a substantial sub-7 minute time.