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Their IT guy's need to be beaten, if I had paying clients (the Supporting Vendors) on my sites and had so many errors, they would have beaten me to death already ...
I know that IB charges a ton, over $200 per month to advertise, that's a lot of money from a lot of people to have a site run so poorly.
They need a new DBA ... or a real DBA to look at their database to see how f'ed it really is.
The people that pay (especially the vendors) for this site are the ones that are really getting screwed. This performance is unacceptable for such a popular site.
Well that's interesting. Of course in these economical times, they are probably not investing much into software development. Most of us are just trying to survive until things change directions.
Of course it makes sense to buy the software company of the makers of the forum software if you have many forum sites like they do. They probably get their very own custom code builds. How does that go... why buy the milk when you can own the cow.
I manage a few software systems. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to just ignore complaints from end users about DATABASE ERRORS.
So this is a regular complaint????? Why not get a job as a weatherman; they don't need to be anymore accurate than an IT professional! This is beyond absurd!!! A total lack of accountability!!
Well that's interesting. Of course in these economical times, they are probably not investing much into software development. Most of us are just trying to survive until things change directions.
Of course it makes sense to buy the software company of the makers of the forum software if you have many forum sites like they do. They probably get their very own custom code builds. How does that go... why buy the milk when you can own the cow.
Which is fine if you're a farmer. But I get the impression we're watching a lawyer trying to milk a cow. It ain't pretty.
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Originally Posted by zsr22
The people that pay (especially the vendors) for this site are the ones that are really getting screwed. This performance is unacceptable for such a popular site.
I manage a few software systems. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to just ignore complaints from end users about DATABASE ERRORS.
I'm a user of multiple software systems... Wouldn't it be nice if technical staff knew how to FIX problems.......
Seriously, this is really really bad... If I was a paying advertisor, I'd want to see some $$ coming back... The DB IS and has been corrupt for some time and I bet they just keep going to backups that probably have never been checked, verified or correctly restored..
My membership expires next week, doubtful that I will renew it given what all has transpired since last year.
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These continuous database errors have me rethinking paying for this mess.
I'm a user of multiple software systems... Wouldn't it be nice if technical staff knew how to FIX problems.......
Seriously, this is really really bad... If I was a paying advertisor, I'd want to see some $$ coming back... The DB IS and has been corrupt for some time and I bet they just keep going to backups that probably have never been checked, verified or correctly restored..
I can't speak officially as I'm not in charge of CF nor do I work on CF, but I do not believe the database is "corrupt". The database error message that users see is a generic vB error message, such as a "Service Engine Soon" light. It can mean database errors (corruption), or it can mean connection errors. From what I've seen, it's not a corruption error, but instead, is a connection error.
I can't speak officially as I'm not in charge of CF nor do I work on CF, but I do not believe the database is "corrupt". The database error message that users see is a generic vB error message, such as a "Service Engine Soon" light. It can mean database errors (corruption), or it can mean connection errors. From what I've seen, it's not a corruption error, but instead, is a connection error.
I can't speak officially as I'm not in charge of CF nor do I work on CF, but I do not believe the database is "corrupt". The database error message that users see is a generic vB error message, such as a "Service Engine Soon" light. It can mean database errors (corruption), or it can mean connection errors. From what I've seen, it's not a corruption error, but instead, is a connection error.
Agreed that is possible, but if it was indeed a connection type of error then I wouldn't be able to ping the server and get a response (not a great indication, but at least the server is partially up). I still think it's a DB error tho as the data is written to a DB as just a blob of data, if it can't get to it, you get the DB error...
Since they look to be using the LAMP(linux,apache,mysql,PHP) stack I'm willing to bet the also upgraded some software without checking what version work with what ever they got.. Open Source sucks with these types of issues and htey probably don't have a good support mechanisim in place.. That is fairly obvious..
Agreed that is possible, but if it was indeed a connection type of error then I wouldn't be able to ping the server and get a response (not a great indication, but at least the server is partially up). I still think it's a DB error tho as the data is written to a DB as just a blob of data, if it can't get to it, you get the DB error...
Since they look to be using the LAMP(linux,apache,mysql,PHP) stack I'm willing to bet the also upgraded some software without checking what version work with what ever they got.. Open Source sucks with these types of issues and htey probably don't have a good support mechanisim in place.. That is fairly obvious..
/joe
You are pinging the webserver. That doesn't necessary give an indication about the mysql server, nor an overall picture.
The connect issue I speak of is with mysql. The exact error, which someone already did post so it's not a secret, is:
mysql_connect() [<a href='function.mysql-connect'>function.mysql-connect</a>]: Too many connections
So pinging the webserver/apache would not reveal that issue to the user. It does not appear to be a corrupt database, but a connection/resource issue.
You are pinging the webserver. That doesn't necessary give an indication about the mysql server, nor an overall picture.
The connect issue I speak of is with mysql. The exact error, which someone already did post so it's not a secret, is:
So pinging the webserver/apache would not reveal that issue to the user. It does not appear to be a corrupt database, but a connection/resource issue.
I DID state that pinging the server was not an indication of the overall health status.. I did not see that someone posted the error, so if it is connection/resource based then the support staff is VERY inept as this problem has been going on for some time and if they can't properly size a server they're pretty sad... I'm sure that even in the open source world there are tools that can assist with this..