Help Forum How To | General Corvetteforum Questions | Feedback

Checking your Browser???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 05:49 AM
  #41  
cruzr6's Avatar
cruzr6
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 174
Likes: 7
From: Indian Harbour Beach FL / Basye VA
Default

good morning.

i use aol ... and for last three days cf won't load ... goggle gets the five second delay and then loads, but aol is a no-go. checked aol browser settings ... nothing obvious.

anybody else w/ this issue?

any fixes?

thanks, jeff / cruzr6
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 08:06 AM
  #42  
leadfoot4's Avatar
leadfoot4
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
Community Builder
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 87,300
Likes: 1,583
From: Western NY
Default

Originally Posted by J T
Cloudflare is pretty big and has many clients. Additionally, the message only appears when in a specific configuration to fight against a current attack. As said above, the message is coming from Cloudflare who is actively protecting CorvetteForum against an ongoing DDoS issue.

I'd think people would rather put up with some short-term inconvenience while still being able to access CorvetteForum, rather than not access CorvetteForum at all while the site is actively under attack to purposely keep members away.

To rally against CorvetteForum, who is the victim in an online Internet attack against the infrastructure, is kinda misplaced.





Does this mean that the "liberal left" has found out about the active political discussions on the PR&C portion of the site, and trying to limit our freedom of speech??


Old Apr 29, 2017 | 09:59 AM
  #43  
Chevy Guy's Avatar
Chevy Guy
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 22,185
Likes: 65
From: NJ
Default

Originally Posted by J T
Cloudflare is pretty big and has many clients. Additionally, the message only appears when in a specific configuration to fight against a current attack. As said above, the message is coming from Cloudflare who is actively protecting CorvetteForum against an ongoing DDoS issue.

I'd think people would rather put up with some short-term inconvenience while still being able to access CorvetteForum, rather than not access CorvetteForum at all while the site is actively under attack to purposely keep members away.

To rally against CorvetteForum, who is the victim in an online Internet attack against the infrastructure, is kinda misplaced.


No other site I go to - ANYWHERE has this. It's pretty clear your tech team or Cloudfare is scanning improperly or has some configs very wrong.

It's funny you are blaming us - the users, for IB's issues.
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 10:01 AM
  #44  
oldgoat99's Avatar
oldgoat99
Safety Car
Veteran: Navy
15 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Photogenic
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,787
Likes: 9
From: La Marque, Texas
Default

Originally Posted by X-ZZ4
Cleared cookies. Still get it.

It's causing posts to be lost.
Originally Posted by X-ZZ4
Two posts in PRC. After hitting submit was taken to the cloudfare forwarding page....and it hung. Exited browser, came back....no post....had to retype and repost.
Originally Posted by Chevy Guy
Yeah - no other site on the planet that I know of has this.

Getting old already, digital vettes here I come.
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 11:38 AM
  #45  
ddawson's Avatar
ddawson
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,738
Likes: 644
From: Lincoln, CA
Default

Comment then question for JT.

For those not in IT the target is the CF website. That is why you won't see it at other sites.
Unless the hackers target digital vettes and they have a redirect you won't see it.

JT the attack has been going on for several days now. I'm assuming the FBI is involved at this point. Is there an active case to track down the issue?
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 12:52 PM
  #46  
Alan 71's Avatar
Alan 71
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 120 Days
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 31,164
Likes: 4,242
From: Westminster Maryland
Default

Hi,
Thanks for the explanation!
I was wondering why I was seeing something new!!!!
Regards,
Alan
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 02:41 PM
  #47  
leadfoot4's Avatar
leadfoot4
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
Community Builder
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 87,300
Likes: 1,583
From: Western NY
Default

Originally Posted by ddawson
Comment then question for JT.

For those not in IT the target is the CF website. That is why you won't see it at other sites.
Unless the hackers target digital vettes and they have a redirect you won't see it.

JT the attack has been going on for several days now. I'm assuming the FBI is involved at this point. Is there an active case to track down the issue?
Good point!!
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 03:52 PM
  #48  
Chevy Guy's Avatar
Chevy Guy
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 22,185
Likes: 65
From: NJ
Default

Originally Posted by ddawson
JT the attack has been going on for several days now. I'm assuming the FBI is involved at this point. Is there an active case to track down the issue?


Yeah - I hear the CIA and homeland security are involved as well.




Last edited by Chevy Guy; Apr 29, 2017 at 03:52 PM.
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-4

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-5

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 04:21 PM
  #49  
J T's Avatar
J T
IB Staff
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,563
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by Chevy Guy
No other site I go to - ANYWHERE has this. It's pretty clear your tech team or Cloudfare is scanning improperly or has some configs very wrong.
It has been explained a few times that the reason the message appears is because the site is in an active protection mode using Cloudflare.

You'd only see this message on another site that is using Cloudflare AND has the active protection mode enabled because of an ACTIVE DDOS event. When the threat is gone, the active protection mode is disabled and you (or the viewers) don't see the message.

So unless you're visiting a website that is using Cloudlfare AND is actively going through a DDOS to trigger the protection, you won't see this.

Originally Posted by Chevy Guy
It's funny you are blaming us - the users, for IB's issues.
Nowhere have I blamed users for this.

What I did say is that you are misplacing the fault and it appears to me you don't understand the issue.

You've continued to blame CorvetteForum and Internet Brands because you believe this is some sort of coding error or incompetence. You're either not understanding, listening, or you just want to blame CorvetteForum and Internet Brands. You're blaming CorvetteForum, Internet Brands, etc., for taking measures to keep the site online while under a DDOS event that is aimed to disrupt accessibility to the site.

Your blame should be on the anonymous party that has decided to target CorvetteForum to take the site offline - not CorvetteForum or Internet Brands for a 5 second delay message that is there as a protection to keep the site online rather than offline.
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 04:59 PM
  #50  
ddawson's Avatar
ddawson
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,738
Likes: 644
From: Lincoln, CA
Default

Originally Posted by Chevy Guy
Yeah - I hear the CIA and homeland security are involved as well.



I love clueless people when it comes to cyber crimes

https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/int...ddos-attackers

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/iranian-ddos-attacks

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...nap-story.html

http://www.bankinfosecurity.com/fbi-...ontinue-a-8446
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 05:59 PM
  #51  
Chevy Guy's Avatar
Chevy Guy
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 22,185
Likes: 65
From: NJ
Default


WOW! I hear the National Guard just joined in as well!!
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 07:22 PM
  #52  
J T's Avatar
J T
IB Staff
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,563
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by Chevy Guy
WOW! I hear the National Guard just joined in as well!!
This is the Help section, not an Offtopic section. I get that you have an issue with CorvetteForum and/or Internet Brands, especially the technical aspect, but this is not the place for it. You're using an event where CorvetteForum is the victim of an online network attack that is aimed to shutdown the site so that members can't access it. Enough said there.

This thread is regarding the Check Browser 5 second delay to explain why members are seeing this new message. It's also to allow members who have legitimate questions or reported issues (such as the AOL issue). Although the protection is provided by Cloudflare, so it's more on Cloudflare's side than ours, legitimate technical issues reported are useful to know.

The 5 second, periodic, delay is inconvenient and there is a few bugs that has been displayed as a result of the protection Cloudflare is providing. But if this wasn't enabled, this discussion may not exist because legitimate traffic wouldn't be able to reach CorvetteForum due to the DDOS attack.
Old Apr 29, 2017 | 11:07 PM
  #53  
BRISLS1's Avatar
BRISLS1
Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 633
Likes: 19
From: Richmond VA
St. Jude Donor '11, '14,’19
Default

I read CF from an RSS XML reader from certain locations. I can't ask my employer to pay me to look at all the ads that show here. I don't mind that on my own time from home. I understand the bills need to be paid. Reading RSS is an internet standard for the last 20 years, nothing shady, just gives the bare bones text of what a site is communicating.

This has stopped working due to the Cloudflare. Since I only perform a "read" about once a day to get all the messages in the C6 Z06 forum, I would expect Cloudflare's software to detect that I am not a malicious attacker trying to flood the servers with requests.

Anything that can be done to relax this would be appreciated. Note: Corvette forum pages broadcast RSS availability, so nothing sneaky going on here. Do a view-source and you will see "
link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml"
".

Thanks a bunch.
Old Apr 30, 2017 | 05:43 AM
  #54  
cruzr6's Avatar
cruzr6
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 174
Likes: 7
From: Indian Harbour Beach FL / Basye VA
Default

to the administrators ... using aol requesting access to cf ... it's not a five second delay ... it's not loading. there has to be a procedure on my end or cloudflare's allowing access by trusted /. know sources.

so, is there a work-around procedure?

if not, why not?

thanks, jeff / ugi356.
Old Apr 30, 2017 | 08:10 AM
  #55  
J T's Avatar
J T
IB Staff
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,563
Likes: 4
Default

If you're using AOL's browser, I'd suggest the work-around procedure you're requesting to be using a different browser.

Originally Posted by cruzr6
to the administrators ... using aol requesting access to cf ... it's not a five second delay ... it's not loading. there has to be a procedure on my end or cloudflare's allowing access by trusted /. know sources.

so, is there a work-around procedure?

if not, why not?

thanks, jeff / ugi356.
Old Apr 30, 2017 | 11:29 AM
  #56  
Trainman-2's Avatar
Trainman-2
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime Gold
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 38,655
Likes: 25
From: Bunnell FL
Default

Originally Posted by J T
It has been explained a few times that the reason the message appears is because the site is in an active protection mode using Cloudflare.
In the Army we had a saying, "There's Always 10% who don't Get The Word!"

That has been me in this case.

Thanks for the explanation J T
Old Apr 30, 2017 | 11:38 AM
  #57  
YO-EL's Avatar
YO-EL
Race Director
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 17,700
Likes: 1,205
From: Phila PA, Bonita Springs FL
Default

Help me understand what an "attack" on Cf is or would be...
What could possibly be the goal to "attack" a car forum website?
Trying to get our personal info? Our emails so we can get bombarded with spam ads?

Or just trying to disrupt the site itself from people who just want to "F" up things...??

I'm trying to figure out just what the intent & purpose would be..

Get notified of new replies

To Checking your Browser???

Old Apr 30, 2017 | 12:01 PM
  #58  
Red Devil's Avatar
Red Devil
Drifting
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 1,882
Likes: 141
From: Toronto Ontario
Default

Is anyone else finding that the photos within the thread are not loading or is it just me? Never experienced this before the DDOS issues.
Old Apr 30, 2017 | 12:58 PM
  #59  
Mad*Max's Avatar
Mad*Max
Race Director
15 Year Member
Shutterbug
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 16,023
Likes: 1,645
From: Toronto, Canada
C7 of the Year - Unmodified Finalist 2021
Default

Originally Posted by Red Devil
Is anyone else finding that the photos within the thread are not loading or is it just me? Never experienced this before the DDOS issues.
it's just you
Old Apr 30, 2017 | 02:19 PM
  #60  
savewave's Avatar
savewave
Administrator
Veteran: Air Force
25 Year Member
St. Jude 20 Year Donor
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 67,345
Likes: 1,942
From: Chattanooga, TN
CI 2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-12
Wounded Warrior Escort '11
St. Jude Donor '03 thru '26
NCM Lifetime Member
NCM Sinkhole Donor
Default

Originally Posted by YO-EL
Help me understand what an "attack" on Cf is or would be...
What could possibly be the goal to "attack" a car forum website?
Trying to get our personal info? Our emails so we can get bombarded with spam ads?

Or just trying to disrupt the site itself from people who just want to "F" up things...??

I'm trying to figure out just what the intent & purpose would be..
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...hp?f=142&a=344

Second paragraph, last sentence.



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:26 PM.

story-0
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-7
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE