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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Kind of..by the time I put in the sub, the enclosure, amps and rack, I figure its like 125-150lbs. Thats why I am really starting to question it. Also like I said, I could be half way to the blower with all that cash.
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Are you planning on racing your Vette? If so, can you make some of your audio gear detachable for racing days?

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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Korbo
Personal attacks do nothing to enhance your opinions.

This is a topic that gets periodically recycled. Conclusions are pretty much the same. Given that the auditory range is different among folks it is no surprise that some folks like or think the Bose is adequate. It is what they hear. Either they would not hear the detail available from only replacing the speakers or the difference would be SO slight as to be not worth it to them. For others the information available in the treble and midrange would be noticeable and enhance their experience dramatically. And to them sound may be a highly weighted variable in their driving experience.

XM aside(you probably need to throw more funds at that), for those that think they would like some improvement without spending lots of dollars might want to consider replacing the speakers (some are not pricey) and fiddling with disconnecting the dash speaker. Adjusting the bass and treble with the above mods for me provides a noticeable difference in CD and FM. Would I like a Bose system that sounds as good as the Bose system in my Infinity FX 35? Yeah. But it turned out I liked 410 gears, heads, headers, cam, underdrive pulley, fast intake.......etc. more.
Let me get this straight. A member writes on the forum he likes his Bose system or even enjoys it. Then someone comes along and says the system is junk and blasts the system the guy is happy with and your okay with that?

Point is you can say a system sucks without using certain words that inflame. Also, if you or someone else can dish it out you should expect a dish thrown back at you every so often.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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"are posers or at the very least a bit dim-witted"

Not necessary and detracts from the point you make which is not what I was addressing. You think it is appropriate. So be it.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Korbo
"are posers or at the very least a bit dim-witted"
Hi,

Personal attacks are fine but don't say anything negative about Bose.... I said I like them.

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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Vette Suspension
Let me get this straight. A member writes on the forum he likes his Bose system or even enjoys it. Then someone comes along and says the system is junk and blasts the system the guy is happy with and your okay with that?
I'm thinking that type of negative criticism about the way the Bose system sounds isn't as hurtful to someone who likes their radio as the negative comments made by some people towards a widebody conversions, leather interior colors or ZR1's made into convertibles. Just because I don't like the way my stereo sounds with the top off doesn't mean I'm being hurtful directly to you if you think your factory sound system is nice.

I love to see people come to the defense of others who are being bashed by keyboard he-men but I don't see a personal attack here... Not rom Korbo, anyway.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:17 PM
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I'm going back and forth so much on this...but I don't think I have a choice...The stuff isn't selling , and the dealer won't take it back. I would have liked to sell it, but I am not going to give it away. I think I will install and do my best to keep the weight down.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by shockwaveharry
I'm thinking that type of negative criticism about the way the Bose system sounds isn't as hurtful to someone who likes their radio as the negative comments made by some people towards a widebody conversions, leather interior colors or ZR1's made into convertibles. Just because I don't like the way my stereo sounds with the top off doesn't mean I'm being hurtful directly to you if you think your factory sound system is nice.

I love to see people come to the defense of others who are being bashed by keyboard he-men but I don't see a personal attack here... Not rom Korbo, anyway.
You have a valid point. However, many often forget this is a dream car for many members. Some members have worked very hard for their Corvette.

Whether it is a widebody, leather, or color someone dislikes there is a way to say it so it does not come across so harsh.

One of the strangest things on this forum and is exclusive to it is a member can bash the Corvette from here to China and members will defend him. Yet, dare say something about a Asian car and you are racist and not a car guy.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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did'nt buy my vette to listen to the radio,but i do like listen to the exhaust,not mine but ,the vettes
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Old Aug 20, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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I personally have no idea just how good, or bad, the Bose sytem is in my Vette.
The FM stations sound good, although there's too much talk and I don't listen to them.
XM sound is ok but not great.
CD's and MP3 CD's sound really good to me.
Seems to me it has a lot to do with the quality of the Media Source.

But I only listen the system when the windows are up and the top is on.
Can't hear much in the way of Quality sound with the top off and windows down.
Usually just listen to the exhaust and the sounds of the open road
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 10:51 PM
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There are those, for whatever reason, who are tone deaf or just plain deaf (probably from too many years of loud exhaust noise). Then there are those who are tone ignorant. Their hearing is intact, but they don't understand what they hear. Then there is laboratory grade measuring equipment. It is neither deaf nor ignorant. It just measures exactly what is output by the stereo. These numbers brook no argument.

High Fidelity means the sound is exactly as it was produced in the live performance, no additions, no subtractions. Bose may fool the deaf and the tone ignorant, but it can't fool the lab instruments. Bose isn't even close to High Fidelity. And that's too bad, because it costs less than $300 to produce a sound system which is high fidelity.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:14 PM
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i disconnected my dash center speaker. that really did make a difference. if some of you are thinking of replacing you stock bose dvd nav head unit. think twice. if you take it out it is directly connected to your HUD display if you have one. they say that your HUD will no longer work.. havent done it wont do it....you ever try to keep the head unit and replace the speakers and add an amp and a single sub?
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by shopdog
There are those, for whatever reason, who are tone deaf or just plain deaf (probably from too many years of loud exhaust noise). Then there are those who are tone ignorant. Their hearing is intact, but they don't understand what they hear. Then there is laboratory grade measuring equipment. It is neither deaf nor ignorant. It just measures exactly what is output by the stereo. These numbers brook no argument.

High Fidelity means the sound is exactly as it was produced in the live performance, no additions, no subtractions. Bose may fool the deaf and the tone ignorant, but it can't fool the lab instruments. Bose isn't even close to High Fidelity. And that's too bad, because it costs less than $300 to produce a sound system which is high fidelity.


Put the exact same system in any bland, and over priced Toyota and this guy would say it was the best thing since color TV. No kidding by any stretch of the imagination.
Old Aug 20, 2009 | 11:50 PM
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My only complaint with the Bose is not enough "punch".....After I did this subwoofer upgrade in my C6Z with a 10 inch JL dub30 and an ALpine 600 watt amp it has all the "punch" I need...It's like going into the ring with Tyson, but coming out with your ears intact....(unless you crank it WAY up)!!!

Old Aug 21, 2009 | 01:36 AM
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I'm haven't picked up my 2010 coupe yet (hoping for late Sept. Museum delivery) so I do not have first hand experience as to the quality of the Bose system (and in fact just ordered the stock radio, planning to upgrade everything after I get the car). But I have been on the forum for almost a year and read lots of threads on a variety of issues. From what I have read, let me throw these thoughts out there.

The Corvette is a performance vehicle built to keep the cost (and weight) in check. Therefore there is almost no sound dampening material in the car anywhere. Just the carpet between you and the cars infrastructure. I would think that this would make for a terrible environment for ANY car stereo system. If you really want to get the best sound and performance from whatever stereo unit you have, the first thing you should consider is installing a GOOD sound (and heat) insulation kit throughout your car, doubling up from the seats back. If you do it right it should help stop a lot of the body vibration type noise and tire and road noise. I would also think that it would have a significant impact on preserving the tonal quality of the music as well.

I plan on doing both. A really good multi-layered sound insulation installment throughout the car and upgrading to a good aftermarket head unit and speakers. Once I do this I post what I did and the results of MY impressions of the before and after.

I'm no audiophile, just going to try do do what I think makes the most sense to me.

PS. I have read others post on here that didn't think much of their Bose unit, but after installing at least some insulation noticed a considerable improvement in the sound quality.
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 02:46 AM
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Guess I am a dim witted poser audiophile too, I replaced the Bose system in my car, but kept the HU, and I think it sounds 1000 times better than the old system. Even my little 8" sub hidden in the left compartment has a more definitive sound than the Bose 10's in the door.
I have a very clear soundstage. I can actually hear the various instruments spread out across the dash in front of me.
I did not have that with the Bose, even with the center speaker disconnected, it was better, but not good enough for me.

I think you may have overbought in the sub department. This is a pretty small OPEN cabin, and doesn't need much to have decent bass.

If you are into music over exhaust, which I am, then you might want to rethink the sub situation, but install the rest you won't regret it.
What I find restricting now is the stock HU, it has nowhere near the warmth as my C5(Stock HU, and JL speakers all around), or the wife's Alpine setup in her Cruiser. A new HU, I suspect will solve it.

I think what several of us are saying that for the money we had to pay, and yes if I wanted an 05 in 04, I had to pay for the Bose system.
I was not happy about it and pulled it almost as soon as I heard it.

Some people like it, good for them, it works, they are happy, but for this dim witted poser, I just didn't appreciate the sound it put out, and went about MY WAY of improving it.
I cannot even begin to express how much that investment has paid off in smiles for what I know to be a vastly improved sound system.
My system is probably under 20lbs. I think the sub weighs about 10lbs, the amp weighs about the same, the speakers were an even swap, and may have reduced weight.

Recently I worked a show where a stereo shop was trying to sell me a bill of goods, as they had pumped up some guys C6 system and were trying to sell me the same. It had more speakers than 42 cars(so to speak) and sounded like crap. All it had was ear bleeding volume, no soundstage whatsoever. What a waste of money, When I asked the guy about that he just gave me a blank look. I had him sit in my car and he was blown away, once I pointed out what he needed to listen to. Then I couldn't get him out of my car and was worried about draining my battery.
Bottom line, I am glad I upgraded my system, it sounds so much better than what I had before and am very happy to fall into the classification of a dim witted poser
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I have an '07 without the Bose system and it works just fine. I've had a Bose system in two of my other cars and, frankly, didn't see any real advantage to it. Maybe if I played the radio at higher volumes I might hear a diffrence, but I often listen to talk radio anyway so I'm not hoping to make Rush Limbaugh sound like Pavoratti.

I think the Bose package comes as part of the 3LT package doesn't it? I don't feel like paying the extra $5K for the Bose and some other things I can live without.

If you're an audiophile, you may never be satisifed with anything but a custom system.
Old Aug 21, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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I disconnected the center speaker and am now content with the Bose. Is it perfect? No, it could use more bass, but for me that doesn't justify replacing it with an aftermarket unit.

I think the bottom line is if you're happy with the sound, great; if not, you have numerous options available. Everybody wins!

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from Dictionary.com:

"au⋅di⋅o⋅phile  /ˈɔdiəˌfaɪl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [aw-dee-uh-fahyl]

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a person who is especially interested in high-fidelity sound reproduction.

Origin:
1950–55; audio- + -phile "

Nowhere in the definition does it state you have to be an "expert." That makes most of us "audiophiles."
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Originally Posted by Vette Suspension
There are many pretend audiophiles and those that would like to pose as one. The Bose system although not the best is just fine and a decent system for car audio.
... No it's not the greatest but upgrading the speakers really helped. Other than that it's certainly livable and not nearly as bad as some of the "drama queens" would have you believe....
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I've always wondered why Bose systems in other cars sound so much better. The Bose system in my wife's 2009 SRX is fantastic, I've heard Bose systems in cars like Audi, Infiniti, hell even Porsche uses Bose.

Has anyone ever stopped to consider how much R&D $$$ Chevy allowed Bose to work with for the Corvette??? Or do folks think Bose was given an unlimited budget and that's the best they can do???

I have somew Bose 901's Series II I bought back in 1974 and they will still compete with anything on the market.

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