Bring back the Shark
Melting Slicks
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If GM had the nads, like Ford did, they could hit a home run. $100k for a 600+HP Corvette that doesn't look much different than the 2007 just ain't cuttin' the mustard. Give us a 450+HP beauty with some vintage styling for around $50-60k and they might sell enough to put them back on the map!
Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '09
LOOK AT THE CURVES!!!!!!!!!
I'm with FCB on this one.
The C6 is closer to the C3 in styling, and a lot closer at that, than the C4 or the C5.
The front fenders have more curve to them, the 'hips' are more pronounced than the C5.
All Corvettes have some of the same styling cues. The fender vents are a progression of the coves on the C1, to the gills on the C2/early C3s.
I saw a view of a C4 one time that helped me see that the shapeliness was still there, although quite subdued. You just have to look for it.
It's there, the C6 is a lot closer to the C3 than the C5 is to the C2.
GM fuglied up the trucks, trying too hard to look like Fords
and the Caddies are too edgy/blocky for my taste. If there is one vehicle that GM does right, it is the C6.
Le Mans Master
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100% agree. GM seems to concentrate all on performance with the new vettes but with todays traffic and roads ho really is going to drive 175mph. Ive always loved vettes from C1 to C5 since I was a kid (no offence but I personaly hate the new headlights ont the C6). Performance is great but the number one thing that always attracted me to the Corvette is the look!
I couldn't agree more. Styling is #1 to me and the older styling is definately #1 and I also am baffled why GM won't bring back the retro look of the Vette. They could still make the C6 for the people that want them but offer the retro vette as a brother to the modern vette. I think they would find that their retro vette would outsell their modern style if it was updated with the modern technology such as drivetrain and suspension. I personally like everything about the C3 corvette just the way it is but I think most people wanting a new retro vette would want the modern technology for the price that they would be paying. Hopefully someone at GM is listening.
Drifting
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If you're into retro (and being 51, I am) I uncomfortably think GM missed the mark.
I had a '67 Camaro I really liked. I know the new Camaro is supposed to be loosely based on a '69, but.......when you look at a new mustang, you instantly think mustang, same way with the redone challenger.
When I look at this
all I think is....WTF?!?
IF.....if GM is going to get on the retro bandwagon it needs to look a little more like the classic they're copying. Or just call it something totally different. This car has a lot of design elements I like, but at first glance you just don't think Camaro instantly.
Just my $.02, nothing more.
John
I had a '67 Camaro I really liked. I know the new Camaro is supposed to be loosely based on a '69, but.......when you look at a new mustang, you instantly think mustang, same way with the redone challenger.
When I look at this
all I think is....WTF?!?
IF.....if GM is going to get on the retro bandwagon it needs to look a little more like the classic they're copying. Or just call it something totally different. This car has a lot of design elements I like, but at first glance you just don't think Camaro instantly.
Just my $.02, nothing more.
John
I think you missed the point of the new camaro.. GM IMO is try to put a little twist of retro into a new design and that is what they came up with. Keep in mind, the 2005 Mustang concept looks entirely different than the 2005 mustang production car. What you are looking at my friend is the concept (which are usually pretty radical in design). When the 2009 camaro comes out you'll see a different car...
On the subject of going retro on the vette, I say nay!! The Corvette is an American icon. The Z06 is making huge statements in magazines and t.v. They are out there kicking the a$$es of exotic car companies like ferrari and lamborghini. They do not need to go to a restyling of the past for them to sell and be remembered! IMHO, It would be disrespecting the Corvette name by going to a body style it once was. Yeah, the C3 is the best body style of the Corvette (my opinion), but it should not be reskined to look like it once did. The Corvette has never taken anything from previous years to make it look like it use to. The Corvette IMHO has always been state of the art for its time including the design and I believe it should remain that way.
Drifting
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LOOK AT THE CURVES!!!!!!!!!
I'm with FCB on this one.
The C6 is closer to the C3 in styling, and a lot closer at that, than the C4 or the C5.
The front fenders have more curve to them, the 'hips' are more pronounced than the C5.
All Corvettes have some of the same styling cues. The fender vents are a progression of the coves on the C1, to the gills on the C2/early C3s.
I saw a view of a C4 one time that helped me see that the shapeliness was still there, although quite subdued. You just have to look for it.
It's there, the C6 is a lot closer to the C3 than the C5 is to the C2.
GM fuglied up the trucks, trying too hard to look like Fords and the Caddies are too edgy/blocky for my taste. If there is one vehicle that GM does right, it is the C6.
I'm with FCB on this one.
The C6 is closer to the C3 in styling, and a lot closer at that, than the C4 or the C5.
The front fenders have more curve to them, the 'hips' are more pronounced than the C5.
All Corvettes have some of the same styling cues. The fender vents are a progression of the coves on the C1, to the gills on the C2/early C3s.
I saw a view of a C4 one time that helped me see that the shapeliness was still there, although quite subdued. You just have to look for it.
It's there, the C6 is a lot closer to the C3 than the C5 is to the C2.
GM fuglied up the trucks, trying too hard to look like Fords
and the Caddies are too edgy/blocky for my taste. If there is one vehicle that GM does right, it is the C6.
Drifting
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I'd love a retro vette providing they used the same body, wheelbase, and similar interior style. They can do whatever they want everywhere else - go all out with motor, suspension, etc., but don't change the look.
Since they probably won't do it right, I vote "no".
Since they probably won't do it right, I vote "no".
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From: Taylor Ridge Illinois
Imho
C3's are the best looking of all Vettes because of the styling. Thats why I don't like it when a guy feels like his engine needs to stick up so high he can't put a hood on or he has to cut a hole in it. That ain't right! Why would you do that to a piece of art? It's like putting a little paper hat on the Mona Lisa! Why?
Also, Car manufacturers can't totally recreate the most beloved cars of the past because of todays safety regulations. Thats why all of todays cars look the same, because they all have to be built the same to meet the same safety standards.
So I would say DON'T redo a C3! It wouldn't look right (ex. the new Camero) and it would distract from the treasures that currently exist.
I'd like to add that IMHO the C6's look totally bad ***, I'd love to own one someday but it ain't now and never will be comparable to a C3! The C3 is Corvette perfection.
Drive Safe!
MK
Also, Car manufacturers can't totally recreate the most beloved cars of the past because of todays safety regulations. Thats why all of todays cars look the same, because they all have to be built the same to meet the same safety standards.
So I would say DON'T redo a C3! It wouldn't look right (ex. the new Camero) and it would distract from the treasures that currently exist.
I'd like to add that IMHO the C6's look totally bad ***, I'd love to own one someday but it ain't now and never will be comparable to a C3! The C3 is Corvette perfection.
Drive Safe!
MK
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TheCorvetteBen
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On the subject of going retro on the vette, I say nay!! The Corvette is an American icon. The Z06 is making huge statements in magazines and t.v. They are out there kicking the a$$es of exotic car companies like ferrari and lamborghini. They do not need to go to a restyling of the past for them to sell and be remembered! IMHO, It would be disrespecting the Corvette name by going to a body style it once was. Yeah, the C3 is the best body style of the Corvette (my opinion), but it should not be reskined to look like it once did. The Corvette has never taken anything from previous years to make it look like it use to. The Corvette IMHO has always been state of the art for its time including the design and I believe it should remain that way.
Couldn't have said it better
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On the subject of going retro on the vette, I say nay!! The Corvette is an American icon. The Z06 is making huge statements in magazines and t.v. They are out there kicking the a$$es of exotic car companies like ferrari and lamborghini. They do not need to go to a restyling of the past for them to sell and be remembered! IMHO, It would be disrespecting the Corvette name by going to a body style it once was. Yeah, the C3 is the best body style of the Corvette (my opinion), but it should not be reskined to look like it once did. The Corvette has never taken anything from previous years to make it look like it use to. .
I may have to look at the entire rear end of the 1961-62 and compare it to the tail panel of the 1963 roadster (and 64-67) and rethink that.
Then of course there was the in-between the seats "waterfall" of the C5 convertibles that clearly was a rip-off (um, "styling cue") of the solid axle roadsters. I have to respectfully disagree that Corvette has not taken cues from previous years.
Oh, and as much as I've loved Corvettes, I don't think I'd say they've ever kicked Ferrari or Lamborghini's asses. A little home team wishful thinking, there.
That said, there was a time years ago that I was big on the idea on retro Corvette styling. However, once the PT came out, everyone jumped on that bandwagon and it wasn't interesting anymore. That's why I would say "nay" and have to vote for some *****-out, radical, killer styling, something they have not accomplished since 1968 or 1963.
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Melting Slicks
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Why not a limited run of New Mako Shark II's with all of the special touches that awesome showcar had....and only in BLACK!
1000 HP minimum....
1000 HP minimum....
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Drifting
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That said, there was a time years ago that I was big on the idea on retro Corvette styling. However, once the PT came out, everyone jumped on that bandwagon and it wasn't interesting anymore. That's why I would say "nay" and have to vote for some *****-out, radical, killer styling, something they have not accomplished since 1968 or 1963.
That is why the ZR1 is not a big hit to me. Is it exotic? By far. The main reason why the ZR1 is not a big hit to me is because it is not ***** out. The car will most likely weigh in at 3400 lbs and have approx. 620 HP. Therefore, the power to weight ratio is not going to be much over the Z06. Not to mention the weight distribution of 52/48 is not one of my favorites.
What I think is needed is a major design change. Make it so radical that it wont even look anything close to the C4's C5' and C6's.. The C2 was a drastic change from the C1 and same with the C3 to the C2. All three of those generations don't even look similar!
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i heard some buzz like a year ago that chevy was going to use the solstice/sky platform and make a retro "stingray" throwback to the C2's. oh course, not near the performance of the C6, but they would sell for sub $30K. no way GM would do that because it would cut deep into the potential C6 owners. flame away, maybe it's me but seems like the C6 is too much car for some of the C6 buyers (girls and old *** men).
ps... please god do not let the production ZR-1 have a window i the hood. shaker, scoops, stinger, maybe..... no window.
ps... please god do not let the production ZR-1 have a window i the hood. shaker, scoops, stinger, maybe..... no window.
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I dont know, I think if Corvette were to be in the price range of the mustangs etc etc then the special moment that you see a new one would be every 3 seconds, I think they would be FAR too common, (the wave would die most definatly)
yea the price for a new Corvette is WAY up there, but I would MUCH rather see a high price tag than see one on every block and hav the "special" of a Corvette be lost forever
Miles
yea the price for a new Corvette is WAY up there, but I would MUCH rather see a high price tag than see one on every block and hav the "special" of a Corvette be lost forever
Miles
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If you're into retro (and being 51, I am) I uncomfortably think GM missed the mark.
I had a '67 Camaro I really liked. I know the new Camaro is supposed to be loosely based on a '69, but.......when you look at a new mustang, you instantly think mustang, same way with the redone challenger.
When I look at this
all I think is....WTF?!?
I had a '67 Camaro I really liked. I know the new Camaro is supposed to be loosely based on a '69, but.......when you look at a new mustang, you instantly think mustang, same way with the redone challenger.
When I look at this
all I think is....WTF?!?
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I dont know, I think if Corvette were to be in the price range of the mustangs etc etc then the special moment that you see a new one would be every 3 seconds, I think they would be FAR too common, (the wave would die most definatly)
yea the price for a new Corvette is WAY up there, but I would MUCH rather see a high price tag than see one on every block and hav the "special" of a Corvette be lost forever
Miles
yea the price for a new Corvette is WAY up there, but I would MUCH rather see a high price tag than see one on every block and hav the "special" of a Corvette be lost forever
Miles
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Miles