American Powertrain transmission group buy
#441
Drifting
No magic about having a smooth 2nd to 3rd shift, I have absoluetly no problems with that, I just follow what Gray from AP demonstrated in youtube on how to shift from 2nd to 3rd, its kinda different that what we all used to with our old Muncies, in TKOs you just push the lever forward with your palm and it will click right into 3rd, as simple as that.
#442
Race Director
No magic about having a smooth 2nd to 3rd shift, I have absoluetly no problems with that, I just follow what Gray from AP demonstrated in youtube on how to shift from 2nd to 3rd, its kinda different that what we all used to with our old Muncies, in TKOs you just push the lever forward with your palm and it will click right into 3rd, as simple as that.
ok...post the utube video plz, love to see it,,, thx maybe i just dont know how to shift anymore... but if your slamming gears in a race, just going easy and slow isn't going to hack it. my T-10 you could slap em as fast as your hand could travel.
but, ummmm that does not seem to be my fortune... feels more like a brick wall.
but to go from 5th to reverse at 70mph seems to be a breeze... going 5th to 3rd or 4th.... brick wall
#443
Drifting
ok...post the utube video plz, love to see it,,, thx maybe i just dont know how to shift anymore... but if your slamming gears in a race, just going easy and slow isn't going to hack it. my T-10 you could slap em as fast as your hand could travel.
but, ummmm that does not seem to be my fortune... feels more like a brick wall.
but to go from 5th to reverse at 70mph seems to be a breeze... going 5th to 3rd or 4th.... brick wall
but, ummmm that does not seem to be my fortune... feels more like a brick wall.
but to go from 5th to reverse at 70mph seems to be a breeze... going 5th to 3rd or 4th.... brick wall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRyrXNHYbf0
#444
Le Mans Master
No reverse lockout on the TKO?
#445
Race Director
I think this is the link that hamad was talking about. Doesn't show downshifting. Didn't know you were having problems 5th to 4th - that isn't good. Are you serious that trying to go 5th to 4th sometimes you end up shifting into reverse?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRyrXNHYbf0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRyrXNHYbf0
Yea, it's easier to go from 5th to reverise then to 4th or 3rd..
Dosnt seem to be..... Grind away....
#446
Drifting
Was just googling around trying to find out about reverse lockout on TKO 600 and confirmed they are not. Also read that it is hard to get into first at a rolling speed - something about the synchros are not big enough. Also says that all of the gears are sychronized except reverse and that you should go into a forward gear then into reverse.
Link to message board postings about it
http://bbs.piclz.com/viewthread.php?tid=71200&page=1
Link to message board postings about it
http://bbs.piclz.com/viewthread.php?tid=71200&page=1
#447
Burning Brakes
No magic about having a smooth 2nd to 3rd shift, I have absoluetly no problems with that, I just follow what Gray from AP demonstrated in youtube on how to shift from 2nd to 3rd, its kinda different that what we all used to with our old Muncies, in TKOs you just push the lever forward with your palm and it will click right into 3rd, as simple as that.
I will say I've had T56's in a couple rides (impalla ss, c5 zo6, C6, 4th gen WS6) and they all took the open palm straight in for 3rd. On the strip it was impossible to get 3rd any other way. I imagine that is what the tko qwill be like after a few miles on it.
#448
Watch me shift at 57 seconds in this video (and a few other spots in it) http://youtu.be/Iioh80ZGtvY
Just using the palm of your hand = no problems.. let the centering springs do their job.. remember, this is a pretty heavy duty transmission. Does it shift as smooth as my 2012 chevy cruze eco? Hell no.. does my cruze eco tranny handle 600 lb/ft torque? Hell no
Just using the palm of your hand = no problems.. let the centering springs do their job.. remember, this is a pretty heavy duty transmission. Does it shift as smooth as my 2012 chevy cruze eco? Hell no.. does my cruze eco tranny handle 600 lb/ft torque? Hell no
#449
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St. Jude Donor '08
You guys are worrying WAY too much!, the TKO600 is a great transmission, I never felt any shifting problems, it withstands just anything you put in front of it, get your TKOs installed and start enjoying your "new" cars again!
#450
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St. Jude Donor '08
This guy made a great review in his youtube channel (i think he is a forum member) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIwltdD_ZY&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIwltdD_ZY&feature=plcp
#452
Drifting
This guy made a great review in his youtube channel (i think he is a forum member) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIwltdD_ZY&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zIwltdD_ZY&feature=plcp
#457
Le Mans Master
So I had the call AP back today even though they said they would call me yesterday. They said they measured my flywheel and found it perfect even though I measured .009" thickness variation.
They said they could either send it back to the manufacturer and if they found nothing wrong with it they would charge them $40, or they could send it out locally to have it checked out for $25. I asked if I was going to be charged for this and he couldn't give me a straight answer.
So I asked if the pressure plate could be the problem. And he said the manufacturer (different one then the flywheel) said the only way it would chatter like that is if it was installed properly, meaning bolting it down one side at a time and not in the star pattern. I told them it was absolutely installed correctly. I've done tons of clutches and have NEVER had a chatter problem before.
So I told them I just want to return the parts and get my money back because I already bought new ones and they car was done. (I was actually driving home from work in it when they called back.) I'm not satisfied with the parts and I don't know why I have to go through all this BS to get a refund.
So naturally, I'm not getting a good feeling about this. And now they have my parts and my money, and are possibly going to charge me diagnostic fees. And I'm sure they're going to say there's nothing wrong with anything so they can keep my money.
Here's what my flywheel and pressure plate looked like after 150 miles:
They said they could either send it back to the manufacturer and if they found nothing wrong with it they would charge them $40, or they could send it out locally to have it checked out for $25. I asked if I was going to be charged for this and he couldn't give me a straight answer.
So I asked if the pressure plate could be the problem. And he said the manufacturer (different one then the flywheel) said the only way it would chatter like that is if it was installed properly, meaning bolting it down one side at a time and not in the star pattern. I told them it was absolutely installed correctly. I've done tons of clutches and have NEVER had a chatter problem before.
So I told them I just want to return the parts and get my money back because I already bought new ones and they car was done. (I was actually driving home from work in it when they called back.) I'm not satisfied with the parts and I don't know why I have to go through all this BS to get a refund.
So naturally, I'm not getting a good feeling about this. And now they have my parts and my money, and are possibly going to charge me diagnostic fees. And I'm sure they're going to say there's nothing wrong with anything so they can keep my money.
Here's what my flywheel and pressure plate looked like after 150 miles:
#458
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St. Jude Donor '08
So I had the call AP back today even though they said they would call me yesterday. They said they measured my flywheel and found it perfect even though I measured .009" thickness variation.
They said they could either send it back to the manufacturer and if they found nothing wrong with it they would charge them $40, or they could send it out locally to have it checked out for $25. I asked if I was going to be charged for this and he couldn't give me a straight answer.
So I asked if the pressure plate could be the problem. And he said the manufacturer (different one then the flywheel) said the only way it would chatter like that is if it was installed properly, meaning bolting it down one side at a time and not in the star pattern. I told them it was absolutely installed correctly. I've done tons of clutches and have NEVER had a chatter problem before.
So I told them I just want to return the parts and get my money back because I already bought new ones and they car was done. (I was actually driving home from work in it when they called back.) I'm not satisfied with the parts and I don't know why I have to go through all this BS to get a refund.
So naturally, I'm not getting a good feeling about this. And now they have my parts and my money, and are possibly going to charge me diagnostic fees. And I'm sure they're going to say there's nothing wrong with anything so they can keep my money.
Here's what my flywheel and pressure plate looked like after 150 miles:
They said they could either send it back to the manufacturer and if they found nothing wrong with it they would charge them $40, or they could send it out locally to have it checked out for $25. I asked if I was going to be charged for this and he couldn't give me a straight answer.
So I asked if the pressure plate could be the problem. And he said the manufacturer (different one then the flywheel) said the only way it would chatter like that is if it was installed properly, meaning bolting it down one side at a time and not in the star pattern. I told them it was absolutely installed correctly. I've done tons of clutches and have NEVER had a chatter problem before.
So I told them I just want to return the parts and get my money back because I already bought new ones and they car was done. (I was actually driving home from work in it when they called back.) I'm not satisfied with the parts and I don't know why I have to go through all this BS to get a refund.
So naturally, I'm not getting a good feeling about this. And now they have my parts and my money, and are possibly going to charge me diagnostic fees. And I'm sure they're going to say there's nothing wrong with anything so they can keep my money.
Here's what my flywheel and pressure plate looked like after 150 miles:
#459
Le Mans Master
I bet you 68VetteFla's would have looked like that if he kept driving it
Last edited by qwank; 05-18-2012 at 07:56 PM.
#460
Drifting
qwank - My parts are being sent back on Monday. I will let you know if I run into a problem and please keep me posted on your situation with them. I am not willing to accept anything less than a full refund. We waited much longer than promised for parts, and in my case I have to spend $500 in labor to have the tranny removed and another clutch kit put in (you have to spend your time which is valuable too). If they give us a hard time, I will do all I can to make sure that all of the forum members here know exactly what went down.