Some recent threads about painting cars got me wondering...

What happened to the guy (and the car) that painted his car with a roller. The car was a 71 or 72 coupe, and he painted the car yellow, as I recall.

I know it sounds ridiculous, but the car really seemed to turn out well. Looked pretty good after color sanding.

Anyone remember this car? What happened to it?

 

Yes, I remember. Don't know what happened to the car.
It's been a year since lowbuck72 has posted.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ob-update.html

Updated thread:

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...paint-job.html

 

Hi,
In post #47 lb72 says he got 85% of a good paint job.
For some people that's enough, but not for others.
Regards,
Alan

 

Funny story but true . For some of you older guys like myself that remember the 1959 Pontiac Bonneville convertibles then you know that they were a huge car and We grew up with a guy that had one and said he was going to paint it himself so he went up to the local auto parts store and bought a whole case of black rattle cans and went to work on the car. We all laughed at the idea but when he was all done (we didn't offer to help of course ) we went over to see it and to our surprise it looked really good. Of course that was looking with young eyes . Today seeing that done I probably would be still laughing.

 

I'm painting my car right now with Viper Red and the local auto paint store wanted $900. per gallon just for the paint . Just the paint , no clear or additives . I saw some cars ( Corvette and Camaro ) that a guy painted with a paint called Extreme 9000 and you can't tell the difference between that and the big brands so I bought everything to do my car and it was just $347. and I even got way extra . Two gallons of paint and two gallons of urethane clear coat and all additives . I have already painted a lot of the parts for the car and they are beautiful. We need to stop letting them hold a gun to our heads for the brand names. They are not any better.

 

Doing anything uber cheap seems to upset the holy hell out of some people and I try to figure out why and the only thing I can come up with is it's some elitist thing and if they spend far more it IS far better...not always.

I have personally seen some horrible back yard paint jobs win shows or awards, so much can and is sanded out of the paint then it's buffed right up,

In my case all the back yard paint jobs I have seen start as a mess and end up nice were multi part automotive paint not house paint or "rustoleum" or any spray bombs.
I saw a brush and roller car in traffic the other day, who knows what paint they used it had been sanded a little but it looked nasty.

Something else that comes into play here is time for some IS money, all that sanding costs materials and time, was the end result worth it?

In my case I plan to run my 69 in black primer wet sanded like I did my 66 I like it, unlike satin or "hot rod" black it has a cool "color" look to me almost like charcoal, purists hate it like poison.

This has far less to do with being cheap or not being able to afford a ncrs/show car dream paint job and more to do with what I personally want, if I wanted a top shelf paint job my friend a top end painter would do it for costs.
On the other hand some people do not have money saving buddies and if they desire that show stopper finish and find the only way they can get it is paying many 1000's I support them getting what they desire...I support that just as much as I support the cat doing a roller or brush and sanding it out or even plastic dip or wraps....this is about what the person wants for their personal car not what you or I want to try to make them have done...

Want to see a stunning home done paint job look up oldgto, I have seen it in person, it's wet looking when dry and a mile deep reflection,
I will let him tell you how much it cost him....

 

The difference I've seen is how well they hold up to UV. Cheap red paint fades. Expensive brand names don't.

I did touch-up on red paint (worst color for fading). It was good paint, $600/gallon PPG. At the time the paint was 10 years old and had sat in TX sun. The new paint matched the old paint perfectly. Note that the new paint was simply more paint with the same color code. It had not been "fade matched".

 

So I didnt want to say anything on here since it would be asking for punishment but ....

Im rustoleum roller painting my 76.

I took the 5 layers of old paint off and found out my car actually has sharp lines! I bought 2 quarts of white primer from homedepot and a fine foam roller. I put 2 50/50 thinned coats on to start and it laid down with absolutely no texture. I just finished laying down a thicker 25/75 coat and I plan on block sanding this weekend.

Ive been using a cut down pool noodle with sand paper wrapped around it for getting the contures and slipping a wooden dowel into the noodle for sanding the flats.

Im still not sure about the final color but im thinking "sail boat" blue. So far my total cost is less than $50 and I cant wait to get some color rolled on. I know I could save alot of time and effort by spraying brand names but I dont have the clams to fork out for it.

Even if someone spray bombs their entire car, I think it is a good thing. It helps to keep these old girls on the road and able to be seen by todays kids.

 

I am certainly not any expert, (like DUB), but I have painted 15 or so cars over the years, in "backyard" style. I have used both top dollar and economy store/generic paint and have gotten good results with both. What I cannot see, is why someone would want to use spray bombs, roll on enamel or the like. Do they have any idea how much of a pain in the a$$ it is to strip all of that stuff off? It is not nearly as durable, and compatibility with any future quality paint is a guess - meaning it needs to come back off.

 

I bet it did not rust ??

 

The paint jobs that I looked at on the two cars were about 6 years old . One being a red 62 Corvette and the other one was a 69 Hugger orange Camaro and the finish was like new with absolutely not faded at all . The Extreme 9000 is a high solids paint which covers very well with only 2 coats and highly resistant to fading . You are with the group that thinks just because it costs more that it must be better. The only reason that this paint would not be good for body shops is because it takes longer to dry clear through and is sensitive to humidity so the base has to be sprayed at 50% or less humidity or less if you want to top coat it with clear within a couple hours but the advantage is that there is no limit for how long it can sit before applying the clear coat . I have waited months for some of the parts before applying the clear .

 

I really dig this idea. A hundred bucks, a good amount of elbow grease and some decent maintenance and you can get by a few years with a decent driver paint job until you can save up for a professional job.

Personally I can't justify ~$7k for some paint that will eventually get chipped up because I plan on driving my car, she won't be a trailer queen. That said, we have the setup for spraying a car so I will probably grab a few body components to practice paint technique on and then spray my own car in my dad's garage paint booth.

 

Is it harder to remove cheap paint vs quality paint?

 

there's lots of great examples of the rolled on rustoleum paint jobs but you have to search the MG sites and HOT ROD mag website did a great write up.

I've never done a car but have done other things, it's old school, how Model T's were painted. they can look great if you spend the time.

when I spray a car, I usually buy the inexpensive enamel from the online place, about $150 for all the primer, base, clear, reducer, hardener, etc. not worried about red fade, I don't leave them sitting outside year round anyway...

http://www.paintforcars.com/enamel_paint_kits.html

 

You could have gotten viper red from spi for around 200 a gallon and it is quality paint.

 

With paint I do not even find all colors equal within a brand,

Haven't you noticed especially here many people hold to the antiquated notion that if it costs more it's better, they like to use flawed expressions like "you get what you pay for" which also can apply to me buying a great part are a budget price, I still paid for it , a lesser price and got it, a great item.


When I built bat vette I did splurge and had a 5K plus paint job done in 89 the black was several layers and all kinds of wet sanding, it was a mile deep and the reflection was breathtaking...it took all the fun out of the car for me I was scared to drive it, it could get flawed a bird could fart on it etc, I felt like a purist on the ncrs chopping..ahem, judging block, when I did that modded 66 I shot the flat black primer and was so happy, get a chip, hit it with more primer, I was the only primer car allowed into old town cruise at the time because it just looked right, nope, not for everyones taste but it fit for me.....
Nothing is cooler to me that old used surviver paint.

 

old used surviver paint.


Hey! My car resembles that remark!

 

Vettebuyer has a stunning restored 69 but if he sees this or you can find the pic of his 69 before he restored it....I just love that old black paint....

 

Ask any truck driver to verify this.... but it`s all the same stuff. I drove many MANY years ago, and this I know...
I took a load of empty bottles to an orange juice plant. In the warehouse, they had over 300 different lables. SAME juice, 300 different brand names.
I hauled gasoline for over 12 years. It all comes from the same tank into the truck! The number the driver puts in the computer decides if we call it Chevron, Texaco, Marathon, or whatever. Only the additives and the color of dye in the premium is different. Otherwise, it`s all the same.
Consider soap. The plant runs 10,000 boxes of "PlainJane" soap. It sells for a buck a box. Then they run 10,000 boxes of "SuperSoap". It sells for FIVE bucks a box. Why? Because not everybody will pay five bucks for a box of soap. But some WILL, because they believe that if it costs more, it MUST be better! So they cover both ends of the market, and average $3 a box.
I tried to explain that to my kids... one of which thinks high price = high quality.
"OK, there`s 100 different kinds of soap. Do you really think there are 100 factories making soap?"

 

I was told the same thing when I heard $900. per gallon. A couple people told me that the price would probably be the same at most places because there is only one manufacturer . The company that sells the Extreme 9000 says in their advertisements that the only difference between them and their competitors is the price because they eliminate the middle men by buying straight from the manufacturer. There has to be a huge markup by the time it gets to the paint stores from the distributors. I don't have all of the answers . All I can say is I have used the brand name paints for 40 years and now I am using the Extreme 9000 and getting the same results in the end for a whole lot less money.