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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:01 AM
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Just curious here! I have been trying to find a front bumper to put on the car but they are all a little out of my price range. I did find a 1981 bumper in perfect shape and still soft. Would I want to consider a change or would it be a nightmare? I can pick it up for about $50 and I really like the look of those front ends.
Look at the lines of the bumper, it will not just bolt on, it will require fiberglass work.

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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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Ok, my painter showed up tonight to work on the car with me. Shew!!!! He said he has no intentions of not finishing the project with me. We are trying to be ready to shoot primer in about 2 weeks! I really need to get moving on a few things before we paint...I really think I want to change my lower ball joints before then and replace the bushings but I am still a little scared to drop the lower Arms with the springs and all. I hope someone can guide me through that process. I have all me Moog parts just need to understand how to do this without the spring flying across the garage.
C'mon, seriously? Has anyone here ever started a project with the intention of not finishing it, unless it's just to get your wife to shut up about it?

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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:07 AM
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Just my opinion based on experience.

If it costs more still do it right with the right parts. Once modified it is difficult to get it back to being correct. Especially as it relates to body work. Body work is very very expensive if you do not do it yourself.

In terms of painting, do all the prep work and then start to ask around to see if someone will just spray it for you. That is what a friend of mine did in MD. After he bought the materials he paid about $1,200 for the spray. The paint came out excellent.

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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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C'mon, seriously? Has anyone here ever started a project with the intention of not finishing it, unless it's just to get your wife to shut up about it?

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Scott!!!!! We have missed you brotha!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 1974ta
Just my opinion based on experience.

If it costs more still do it right with the right parts. Once modified it is difficult to get it back to being correct. Especially as it relates to body work. Body work is very very expensive if you do not do it yourself.

In terms of painting, do all the prep work and then start to ask around to see if someone will just spray it for you. That is what a friend of mine did in MD. After he bought the materials he paid about $1,200 for the spray. The paint came out excellent.

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I have certainly thought about this ave but something just keeps telling me "you'll even love if more if you do it yourself" of course the bible says pride comes before a fall. Hahaha
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by FatCat
I have certainly thought about this ave but something just keeps telling me "you'll even love if more if you do it yourself" of course the bible says pride comes before a fall. Hahaha
There aint nothing wrong with being proud of a job well done, I believe that the fall comes from boasting
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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There aint nothing wrong with being proud of a job well done, I believe that the fall comes from boasting
I believe you are correct sir!!
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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Man the paint threads don't get much response! Hahaha
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I found a thread on the C4 section where a guy painted his car and thought of you. It's a 5 part (4 threads) series all on you tube.



http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...tube-link.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...-part-2-a.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...tube-link.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-g...ube-video.html
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Sweet! I will check them out. Thanks! I hope to get this baby back on the road over the next month.
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these are probably the cheapest brand new bumpers your going to find. I used the tru-flex rear bumper, body shop guys bolted it on without any complaints. Yours is a '78, correct?

Tru-flex bumper $280
http://willcoxcorvette.com/product_i...ducts_id=24006

Urethane reproduction - $225
http://willcoxcorvette.com/product_i...oducts_id=1679

Willcox ships their stuff fast, i ordered my bumper on a thursday night and had it saturday morning.
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Willcox ships their stuff fast, i ordered my bumper on a thursday night and had it saturday morning.
You must live fairly close to them because it always takes a good week for me to get my parts.
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I am thinking of just going all the way now! No mysteries! All the way the glass! What say you guys?
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I am thinking of just going all the way now! No mysteries! All the way the glass! What say you guys?
If the factory primer is ok I'd just put an epoxy primer over it. I think getting down to the fiberglass may cause issues, don't know for sure though...
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Originally Posted by AirborneSilva
If the factory primer is ok I'd just put an epoxy primer over it. I think getting down to the fiberglass may cause issues, don't know for sure though...
Like Airborne, I'm not sure, but I think if you can keep the original gel-coat (under the factory primer) you will be better off. Perhaps you could ask the question in the paint area of the forum.

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The primer is in good shape but here is the challenge! Drivers side fender lots of bondo, Drivers side mirror was only hanging on by a thread. What the glass like under the primer? Any cracks? Who knows... probably 6-10 hours of sanding, I am all glass and can repair any damage....If not I shoot primer and go on knowing now what I didn't know before...HAHAHA! Just my thoughts.. The down side.....UGH! tons of work, I have never used glass filler and did I mention tons of work? HAHA
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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I have a thread going in the paint forum if you all want to follow it and get in on it with me..I would appreciate it! Here is the link
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It sounds like DUB has a different opinion and may know what he is talking about...
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Originally Posted by PeteZO6
Like Airborne, I'm not sure, but I think if you can keep the original gel-coat (under the factory primer) you will be better off. Perhaps you could ask the question in the paint area of the forum.

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Pete, these cars don't have gelcoat under the primer. The bodies were made out of a fiberglass material called "SMC" (Sheet molded compound) that is composed of glass fibers and epoxy resin. As a part of the manufacturing process the resin would tend to flow toward the outer surface, leaving a reasonably smooth outer finish.

As far as sanding away the factory primer, if you're gonna go to all the trouble and effort to strip all the other paint you might as well take it all the way to the surface. That primer is 35 years old...why put new wine into old wineskins, eh?

Rogman used gallons of lacquer thinner and scotch-brite and hundreds of rolls of paper towels along with his Most Excellent Wife to strip the primer off of his '73. I used the somewhat more draconian but environmentally-friendly method of wet-sanding the primer off with 320 grit paper. I then scuffed it lighly with 120 grit paper to give a bit of 'tooth' for the body filler and primer to bite onto. After that I washed the car with Palmolive Oxy-blast dish soap.

I have noticed on these pages that 20 different people can paint a car 20 different ways. The way I did mine worked well for me, but I did benefit quite a bit from the advice of others. Some of it I used, some not. At the end of the day the paint job you put on your car is going to be the result of decisions that you made along the way, and that will be your signature.

Some will get this..."Whatsoever you do, do it heartily, as unto the Lord". If you follow that counsel, you can't go wrong.

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Originally Posted by birdsmith
Pete, these cars don't have gelcoat under the primer. The bodies were made out of a fiberglass material called "SMC" (Sheet molded compound) that is composed of glass fibers and epoxy resin. As a part of the manufacturing process the resin would tend to flow toward the outer surface, leaving a reasonably smooth outer finish.

As far as sanding away the factory primer, if you're gonna go to all the trouble and effort to strip all the other paint you might as well take it all the way to the surface. That primer is 35 years old...why put new wine into old wineskins, eh?

Rogman used gallons of lacquer thinner and scotch-brite and hundreds of rolls of paper towels along with his Most Excellent Wife to strip the primer off of his '73. I used the somewhat more draconian but environmentally-friendly method of wet-sanding the primer off with 320 grit paper. I then scuffed it lighly with 120 grit paper to give a bit of 'tooth' for the body filler and primer to bite onto. After that I washed the car with Palmolive Oxy-blast dish soap.

I have noticed on these pages that 20 different people can paint a car 20 different ways. The way I did mine worked well for me, but I did benefit quite a bit from the advice of others. Some of it I used, some not. At the end of the day the paint job you put on your car is going to be the result of decisions that you made along the way, and that will be your signature.

Some will get this..."Whatsoever you do, do it heartily, as unto the Lord". If you follow that counsel, you can't go wrong.
I certainly get the that!! UGH! wetsand 320 grit? OMG did that take forever??? I was thinking 80 grit on a block.
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