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Old May 13, 2021 | 02:14 PM
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It could be tuning. It could possibly be the valve adjustment needs more work. I would have expected more idle vacuum from your engine.

In my opinion, the set screw adjustment in the nipple on an adjustable vacuum advance can isn't for adjusting the advance limit. You use it to adjust the vacuum required to fully pull the can and then use a stop to limit the total vacuum advance.

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i'm checking tomorrow let's see what we get.
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NOW WITH VAC CONNECTED:
I set MY GUN to zero and my damper is 15* advanced. SOMEONE SAY CHECK.

I'm now at 20* advanced. better? Do we want 25*. All I did was open up the vac can 2 turns clockwise.


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Old May 17, 2021 | 09:52 PM
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I don't understand, are you at 15* or 20* at idle?

Double check the mechanical advance at idle again each time you adjust it to ensure you stay at 10* without the vacuum advance.
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Old May 17, 2021 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by michael lamoglia
NOW WITH VAC CONNECTED:
I set MY GUN to zero and my damper is 15* advanced. SOMEONE SAY CHECK.

I'm now at 20* advanced. better? Do we want 25*. All I did was open up the vac can 2 turns clockwise.
What is your initial mechanical timing at idle? Still 10? 20 degrees total at idle, with vacuum advance, is likely correct, if you are at 10 mechanical.

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I don't understand, are you at 15* or 20* at idle?

Double check the mechanical advance at idle again each time you adjust it to ensure you stay at 10* without the vacuum advance.
I'm confused, too.

You can also pull vacuum with your Mity-Vac, to make sure your total vacuum advance is 10-12 degrees. You might find some more vacuum when you tune your carb a bit.

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Old May 18, 2021 | 03:44 AM
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havent gone through 33 pages. .did you try the EOIC method one valve at a time when adjusting?
Not spinning the pushrod but check for up/down play then add preload. Foolproof..one thats too tight can cause all kinds of issues. Hope you get it ironed out.
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Old May 18, 2021 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I don't understand, are you at 15* or 20* at idle?

Double check the mechanical advance at idle again each time you adjust it to ensure you stay at 10* without the vacuum advance.
will check mechanical to ensure accuracy. But basically with vac instead of 15 on damper I’m at 20. That should be better. Would 25 be better
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Old May 18, 2021 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by michael lamoglia
will check mechanical to ensure accuracy. But basically with vac instead of 15 on damper I’m at 20. That should be better. Would 25 be better
Not sure why you mention 15 but It should be around 20-22 idle with vac connected from what Ive read... I just timed mine yesterday and my Timing with vac disconnected is 35-36 degrees all in at 3000rpm idle is around 12.. with my adjustable vac adjusted to give me 12 degrees more my idle is at about 23-24 degrees now. WOT is about 48 with vac connected.

Again it sounds like you have 8 about degrees of vac advance right now when between 10and 12 is ideal.

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Originally Posted by michael lamoglia
will check mechanical to ensure accuracy. But basically with vac instead of 15 on damper I’m at 20. That should be better. Would 25 be better
So is this summary correct?

Initial timing (no vacuum advance) 15 degrees BTDC
Idle with initial and vacuum advance 20 degrees BTDC
So, with whatever vacuum you are pulling at idle, you get 5 degrees of vacuum advance.

If you connect your Mity-Vac to the vac advance can, and pull 20 in-hg, how much vacuum advance to you get then?

You want 10-12 degrees of vacuum advance at idle, so 25 total at idle would be better, but don't get there the wrong way. Your mechanical is already set.
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Old May 18, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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Michael, it appears you are trying to set your final timing by adjusting your vacuum advance. Thats a no, no. You are way too focused on vacuum advance for some unknown reason. I can't stress enough the importance of setting up your total timing to 36* @ 3000 rpm with the vacuum advance disconnected. You must do it this way first!!! Then connect your vacuum advance and chech for any engine pinging when you are out cruising around (you can't check for ping sitting in the driveway), otherwise, your done! Go for a beer and burger and pat yourself on the back.
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Old May 18, 2021 | 04:28 PM
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lol. I did it like that! I'm good with mechanical and at 3k at 36. Been done. I'm addressing the fact that with vac i'm low at 15 out so I increased it to 20. Zero pinging by the way when I went for a drive fyi.
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This was what I was getting at! If we scroll up a bit my 5th point which most agree was too low states:
NOW WITH VAC CONNECTED:
I set MY GUN to zero and my damper is 15* advanced. SOMEONE SAY CHECK.


See responses to that. So I went from 15 to 20 on the gun WITH VAC.
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15 before and I brought it up to 20!
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Old May 18, 2021 | 04:58 PM
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That's better, you could go a little more if you wanted to but you don't have to. Re-check mechanical and drive it like you stole it.
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Exactly. There is very little gain trying to max out your vacuum advance and it could actually put you in the detonation zone and you may not hear it but damage could still be done. Leave it alone, Your done!
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Old May 18, 2021 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by resdoggie
Exactly. There is very little gain trying to max out your vacuum advance and it could actually put you in the detonation zone and you may not hear it but damage could still be done. Leave it alone, Your done!

excellent. thanks.
NOW, the next issue or actually related: idles at 850ish rpm. When I throw it in gear stopped it shakes pretty bad. idle drops to 550rpm.
what I thought is perhaps carb adjust seems to me may be an issue with vac advance, the thing I'm infatuated with. Some say it's advance, some say idle mixture screw. I tuned the screws counterclockwise 6 spins and the fast idle 3 counterclockwise as suggested throughout forum. I put it back as it made no difference. What say you?

idle in park/neutral - 850ish rpm nice idle.
put it in gear: 500rpm ish.
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I checked again. Beautiful at mechanical 36 @ 3k by the way.
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Which carb?
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