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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by j3studio
It's kind of unfair to compare the cost of a new car to a fairly used one. Adjusted for inflation, late 1980s C4s were the most expensive standard Corvettes ever. So, whoever bought your C4s new was doing quite well...
Actually 4th gens cost more than the 5th gens did, compare the late 4th gen examples and they were more than the early 5th gens.

I'm talking about now. Would someone looking for another car(except you because you actually did it) buy a new 6th gen or a used 4th gen with price not being a factor?

For someone to search out a specific model(as you did), means they are a true enthusiast.

It might not be fair to lump all the 5th gen owners into one group(and I know I did), but if you read through the C5 Gen sections, it's a laugh riot.

I have to go, I have much more to add.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
Really? You never mentioned that before.
correct and as Brad stated above, it's more of the things that are worse in the C5 such as the crappy seats, the best seats were '93 and earlier.

I'd be an idiot if I said the 5th gen wasn't a good car, it is, but it has some quirks that are worse than teh 4th gen quirks.

there are a few I can mention, but I won't, but these would be specific examples, not necessarily a whole generation.
really ? tell me then, what quirks are worse on the C5 than the C4 ? inquiring minds want to know.........
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
The later 4th gens outperformed the early 5th gens up until about 2001 when the LS1 got a small bump(on paper if you ask me) in HP. But by that time most of the bugs had been worked out.
Want to elaborate upon that? I don't think there are too many areas in which a C4 will beat a C5... The bump in power in 2001 was due to the LS6 intake and a slightly revised cam.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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Actually 4th gens cost more than the 5th gens did, compare the late 4th gen examples and they were more than the early 5th gens. QUOTE BY MOJO


where in the world are you getting this info from, or are you kidding ?
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Base C6's are advertised out here for less than $40,000 - my '89 stickered at $35,000. Took 3 or 4 hours to get that down to $30,000 (I bought at the end of the Model run). Considering inflation, the C6 is a bargain and the Dealers seem more willing to discount upfront.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
Actually 4th gens cost more than the 5th gens did, compare the late 4th gen examples and they were more than the early 5th gens. QUOTE BY MOJO


where in the world are you getting this info from, or are you kidding ?
That was a fact. When the C5 was being developed, two of the goals were lower cost and lighter weight. It was accomplished in both cases.

As far as C4's outperforming, there wasn't a single C5 that beat me at the track. The first one to do so was a 2001 and only by a hundreth of a second.

Your results may vary.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
really ? tell me then, what quirks are worse on the C5 than the C4 ? inquiring minds want to know.........
piston slap,column lock, fuel pump defects, oil burning,seats falling apart,the side covers of the headlights falling off.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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It's obvious here that nobody has a sense of humor either.

Everytime a thread of this nature comes up, I want to close it immediately because emotions(including mine) always take over.

I may make a new rule(and I've mentioned it before) that any C4 vs anything will be immediately locked with no explanation.

I may have to lock this one soon.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
i dont get this post at all........and your a moderator ? bashing C5's just to justify the C4's position ? its a big world out there. more than Vette clubs and car shows and this forum. you paint with a pretty broad brush and its still a narrow stroke. just because one has read a few books and owns a Vette or two,doesnt make them an expert on people's sentiments. i know Plenty of people with Vettes thru out the generations that love all Vettes(like me) and would never call any one of them "crappy" my parents taught me," dont say nada,if you cant say nice" and your last paragraph,contradicts your bashing it is what it is though.........
you don't have to get it, it's just off the top of my head.

Try going through a day in my shoes and maybe you'd understand.

I bash C5's because 90% of my friends own them and they give me crap about owning two C4's. It's tit for tat that's all, but you wouldn't know that because you don't know me well enough.

It's all in good fun, or am I not allowed to have fun?

Some of what I said is true and I don't have to justify what I say or said.

If you don't like what I have to say, or what I've said, go PM an Administrator, plain and simple.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
I bash C5's because 90% of my friends own them and they give me crap about owning two C4's. It's tit for tat that's all, but you wouldn't know that because you don't know me well enough.
Some of us have never given you crap about owning two C4's...

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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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I've had my 84 for almost a year drove it once (to my house ) and beening working on it since and have had a blast doing it. Vettes are unique no matter what generation you have, anyone that owns one is part of the same family.We all have our own taste and likes as long as you like it that is what matters have fun and enjoy.You know they saying never talk about politics,sex, religion,and bash another persons vette.RESPECT
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
column lock
that is some scary chit right there. That alone makes me a little nervous about owning a C5. I personally think they are a great car with great looks but read up about the column lock issue. People who have bought the bypass/repair kit have STILL had issues of the column locking up! scary....

Anyway back to the original question: I think what is going on is that the early C4, while beautiful to most of us, is at that point where it's too new to be "retro cool" or a true "classic" and too old to be "new cool". Many can be had for firesale prices, and many end up on used car lots in various states of disrepair. That coupled with the fact that pre-'91 corvettes do look simmilar to a firebird of the same era does not help any. It's amazing the difference that the '91-up front bumper made for styling. I think to the general public the '91 - up looks more modern and thus cooler. Small changes can have amazing effects on a car. The front and rear bumper treatment, interior upgrade and side fender changes to '91-up vettes exemplify that fact.

In a nutshell mid 80's corvettes look, well, fairly 80's. A beautiful car yes but in this era of "gotta have the newest thing" or "gotta have the coolest retro rod" the early C4 falls into no mans land. This is obviously not a bash as all I've had is '84 and '85 C4's but just my take on public opinion reguarding the early C4.

Maby in time it will change but for now it is what it is.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
you don't have to get it, it's just off the top of my head.

Try going through a day in my shoes and maybe you'd understand.

I bash C5's because 90% of my friends own them and they give me crap about owning two C4's. It's tit for tat that's all, but you wouldn't know that because you don't know me well enough.

It's all in good fun, or am I not allowed to have fun?

Some of what I said is true and I don't have to justify what I say or said.

If you don't like what I have to say, or what I've said, go PM an Administrator, plain and simple.

if bashing cars is your idea of fun.........more power to ya man
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
piston slap,column lock, fuel pump defects, oil burning,seats falling apart,the side covers of the headlights falling off.
these issues are to be taken seriously,no doubt,but im not going to down or bash C4s. why dont you list all the "quirks" that the C4 has compared to the C5 and see if it evens up,somethings not right here !
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
if bashing cars is your idea of fun.........more power to ya man
i think bashing is a blast. i have absolutely zero problems even being personally blasted to the hilt. i say bring it on, its all good.

c5's are great cars; that is a fact. they're just ugly. gm took corvette styling cues almost completely off the table. gone, much of corvette looks vanished. c6's are much better looking, shades of tradition have returned; result, power AND beauty. my opinion.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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If you don't like what I have to say, or what I've said, go PM an Administrator, plain and simple. QUOTE BY MOJO


i dont agree with what you said,evry bit of it was an opinion that you have a right to,as far as a pm to an administrator,why ? happy motoring
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot Rod 90
i think bashing is a blast. i have absolutely zero problems even being personally blasted to the hilt. i say bring it on, its all good.

c5's are great cars; that is a fact. they're just ugly. gm took corvette styling cues almost completely off the table. gone, much of corvette looks vanished. c6's are much better looking, shades of tradition have returned; result, power AND beauty. my opinion.

man, you following me ? the C6 is not a "clean sheet" design. its the same exact shape of the 5 with some sharper angles and a facelift. this is even a fact stated by the designers,which is still ok. perhaps you wanted Chevy to make the C4 forever ?( they almost did) the C5 was a radical change from the C4, the 5 to the 6,not so much.as far as looks,well thats obviously subjective.go to bed
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
if bashing cars is your idea of fun.........more power to ya man

Who cares if other people bash your car or not. I could care less if people say good or bad things about my car. I like mine and thats all that matters. Get over it. Its the internet.... If the thread bothers you to much then just dont click on it ....thats what i do when i see a thread badmouthing the c4 .... If ya cant do that then maybe we can all chip in on some couch time for you at the phsyciatrist and they can help you deal with it from the looks of this thread maybe a group purchase is in order (for come c4 and c5 members)

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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by newyiddy20
man, you following me ? the C6 is not a "clean sheet" design. its the same exact shape of the 5 with some sharper angles and a facelift. this is even a fact stated by the designers,which is still ok. perhaps you wanted Chevy to make the C4 forever ?( they almost did) the C5 was a radical change from the C4, the 5 to the 6,not so much.as far as looks,well thats obviously subjective.go to bed
yes i follow you fine. the c6 corrected the horrifying c5. thats exactly what i see when i compare the two in terms of styling.

by the way, brian has it right. his post is right on.
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Old Oct 31, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian9
Who cares if other people bash your car or not. I could care less if people say good or bad things about my car. I like mine and thats all that matters. Get over it. Its the internet.... If the thread bothers you to much then just dont click on it ....thats what i do when i see a thread badmouthing the c4 .... If ya cant do that then maybe we can all chip in on some couch time for you at the phsyciatrist and they can help you deal with it from the looks of this thread maybe a group purchase is in order (for come c4 and c5 members)


unlike you, i will defend my choice of machine against people who should know better,when i have the chance to do so,on this forum. if you are trying to be clever with your pointless remarks,as least use correct spelling.
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