Winter storage
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It's an excellent idea to start it monthly because it actually DOES move the oil around and keep things lubricated preventing dry seals and leaks. Also so the antifreeze/coolant gets moved through the entire system. Moving it around a bit is good to prevent flat spotting of the tires and the brake parts will keep loosened up. Covering it up will help keep it clean as well as protecting it from bumps and scratches that can occur in the garage. Parking it, forgetting about it, and not doing anything for many months on end may very well cause you a few slight problems. Unless you too have one of those magic cars that always start on the first crank, never leak oil, always run perfect no matter what and doesn't require any cleaning or detailing. 
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Not sure Some have speculated that the combustion gasses go past the rings more when it is cold and some of the gas is moisture Your thoughts ?
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That may be possible. Never really concerned myself with it. Been driving cars in the Northeast all my years and have always had this moisture out the exhaust until engine warms up in colder weather. No ill effects on any cars I've ever owned.
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Right now I could care less about the moisture in the exhaust. First off, I have a million miles of warranty. Second, if it rusts out, I would have the warranty and if Borla gives me a replacement system I'd sell it and buy a Corsa. I had other cars where the mufflers rot from the inside out. You see a spec of rust and when you cut it apart you see a lot more rust ON THE INSIDE than the outside. I think it is the people that run it for a short time and it hasn't evaporated the moisture that has gathered in the lowest point of the system. Made sense when I saw it with the short mileage car that went a couple of blocks to school and back
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Sigh. Oh boy....
I've never done that...boat cars heavy equipment....no oil leaks My '92 'Vette leaks zero oil. What am I dont wrong?
Actually it doesn't unless you warm it to the point of opening the stat....but even so....so what? What does moving the coolant through the entire sysrtem actually accomplish? You do realize that the entire system already has coolant in it....don't you?
Tires are made of rubber. They'll un flatten when you drive it. Ask me how I know...
Now I'm confused....Like what problems? 
: And why haven't I found any of these problems?
Aaaahhhhh! THAT'S IT! I have one of those magic cars! Apparently, I'm special and all I have to do is good, basic maintenance that makes sense for real reasons....and my car "always start on the first crank, never leak oil, always run perfect"! Who'd have guessed?
What do y'all think: Doing good, basic maintenance = having a great running car (and that's "Magical")? Or performing "magical rituals" on your car in the desperate hope that you fend off made-up problems? I wonder which is more likely?
: And why haven't I found any of these problems? What do y'all think: Doing good, basic maintenance = having a great running car (and that's "Magical")? Or performing "magical rituals" on your car in the desperate hope that you fend off made-up problems? I wonder which is more likely?
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Absolutely.A byproduct of combustion is water. All combustion. The fire in your wood stove makes water. The flame on your cigarette lighter makes water...and the combustion inside you're engine most certainly does this too. Yes, it does.
SO....As PatternDayTrader accurately pointed out: " Its not necessary and I wouldn't bother. " I'd go one further and say that it may actually be harmful.
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There you again Tom bringing logic and science into this discussion But you forgot the most important thing to do before putting a car away before winter is to get in a chicken suit dancing around a fire chanting to the car gods praying your car will make it three months with out you.
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you could start offering the car gods a sacrifice of some kind maybe like model of the car you are trying to save. Or is that taking it to far?
But in all fairness I guess for the last ten years I had my Chevelle finished I never done nothing before winter and every spring my car awakens like it was put away the year before
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There you again Tom bringing logic and science into this discussion But you forgot the most important thing to do before putting a car away before winter is to get in a chicken suit dancing around a fire chanting to the car gods praying your car will make it three months with out you.
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As far as periodically starting the car during winter storage, here
is what I heard to do and what I did:
Don't start the car during storage. In the Spring, pull the fuses for
the injectors and crank the engine until oil pressure shows.
Then put the fuses back in and start the car.
(This is in addition to battery tenders and fuel stabilizers, etc.)
is what I heard to do and what I did:
Don't start the car during storage. In the Spring, pull the fuses for
the injectors and crank the engine until oil pressure shows.
Then put the fuses back in and start the car.
(This is in addition to battery tenders and fuel stabilizers, etc.)
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The moisture is most DEFINITELY "coming from inside the engine". Absolutely.
A byproduct of combustion is water. All combustion. The fire in your wood stove makes water. The flame on your cigarette lighter makes water...and the combustion inside you're engine most certainly does this too. Yes, it does.
Negative. 15 minutes of idling/no load ain't gonna cut it. Car really needs to be put under a load to get the exhaust hot enough from stem to stern (and the water holding mufflers are in the rear) to get rid of the water as real (invisible) steam.
SO....As PatternDayTrader accurately pointed out: " Its not necessary and I wouldn't bother. " I'd go one further and say that it may actually be harmful.
.
Absolutely.A byproduct of combustion is water. All combustion. The fire in your wood stove makes water. The flame on your cigarette lighter makes water...and the combustion inside you're engine most certainly does this too. Yes, it does.
Negative. 15 minutes of idling/no load ain't gonna cut it. Car really needs to be put under a load to get the exhaust hot enough from stem to stern (and the water holding mufflers are in the rear) to get rid of the water as real (invisible) steam.
SO....As PatternDayTrader accurately pointed out: " Its not necessary and I wouldn't bother. " I'd go one further and say that it may actually be harmful.
.
Sigh. Oh boy....
I've never done that...boat cars heavy equipment....no oil leaks My '92 'Vette leaks zero oil. What am I dont wrong?
Actually it doesn't unless you warm it to the point of opening the stat....but even so....so what? What does moving the coolant through the entire sysrtem actually accomplish? You do realize that the entire system already has coolant in it....don't you?
Tires are made of rubber. They'll un flatten when you drive it. Ask me how I know...
Now I'm confused....Like what problems?: And why haven't I found any of these problems?
Aaaahhhhh! THAT'S IT! I have one of those magic cars! Apparently, I'm special and all I have to do is good, basic maintenance that makes sense for real reasons....and my car "always start on the first crank, never leak oil, always run perfect"! Who'd have guessed?
What do y'all think: Doing good, basic maintenance = having a great running car (and that's "Magical")? Or performing "magical rituals" on your car in the desperate hope that you fend off made-up problems? I wonder which is more likely?
I've never done that...boat cars heavy equipment....no oil leaks My '92 'Vette leaks zero oil. What am I dont wrong?
Actually it doesn't unless you warm it to the point of opening the stat....but even so....so what? What does moving the coolant through the entire sysrtem actually accomplish? You do realize that the entire system already has coolant in it....don't you?
Tires are made of rubber. They'll un flatten when you drive it. Ask me how I know...
Now I'm confused....Like what problems?
: And why haven't I found any of these problems?Aaaahhhhh! THAT'S IT! I have one of those magic cars! Apparently, I'm special and all I have to do is good, basic maintenance that makes sense for real reasons....and my car "always start on the first crank, never leak oil, always run perfect"! Who'd have guessed?
What do y'all think: Doing good, basic maintenance = having a great running car (and that's "Magical")? Or performing "magical rituals" on your car in the desperate hope that you fend off made-up problems? I wonder which is more likely?
You really need to go back and read my first original comment #15 very S-L-O-W-L-Y this time as (y'all 
) probably need some time to digest it.... no matter how simple it was. But then again you may just like to get off trying to start arguments. If so...go right ahead. We all need some laughs from "members" like you. 
Last edited by FOURSPEEDVETTE; Oct 27, 2018 at 12:14 AM. Reason: had to idiot proof it for Tom