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Old Oct 27, 2018 | 08:11 PM
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Not to mention that dryer sheets smell better than mothballs!
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I want to put a tarp under my 96 vette when I put it away for winter. What is the perfect size tarp?

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Not to mention that dryer sheets smell better than mothballs!
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Originally Posted by turbobuick33
I want to put a tarp under my 96 vette when I put it away for winter. What is the perfect size tarp?
If you are OK with a tarp, maybe something a little longer and wider than the car? I'd still be more concerned about the venting
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That's all right 4speed. I'm used to it; when people realize how wrong they are typically resort to name calling and insults. I hope it helps you make up for your lack of actual knowledge.

As for the reminder about your past exceptional contributions....trust me, it was easy to recall and find.
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If you are OK with a tarp, maybe something a little longer and wider than the car? I'd still be more concerned about the venting
I plan on storing my vette in a storage container and there is a vent fan on top, so it circulates the air. So then most likely I probably don't need to put a tarp underneath it?
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Originally Posted by turbobuick33
I plan on storing my vette in a storage container and there is a vent fan on top, so it circulates the air. So then most likely I probably don't need to put a tarp underneath it?
no tarp. And I see no benefits of using a tarp on any surface
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Old Oct 28, 2018 | 06:07 PM
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I plan on storing my vette in a storage container and there is a vent fan on top, so it circulates the air. So then most likely I probably don't need to put a tarp underneath it?
No gain.
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Originally Posted by Nowhere Man

no tarp.
Originally Posted by aklim
No gain.
The tarp is not the way to do it. Proper winterization starts HERE. Putting the car in a bubble.



Anything less than that^...and you're just going to "insure" that you car will break down in the spring.
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The tarp is not the way to do it. Proper winterization starts HERE. Putting the car in a bubble.



Anything less than that^...and you're just going to "insure" that you car will break down in the spring.
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How long did it take you to blow that thing up? I know it has to be really time consuming for you to keep following my replies and trying to discredit them with your 'huge wealth of knowledge' but this stunt for you to blow that thing up, even with all your hot air, must have taken you hours! You might want to stop and seek medical help at this point.

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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
The tarp is not the way to do it. Proper winterization starts HERE. Putting the car in a bubble.



Anything less than that^...and you're just going to "insure" that you car will break down in the spring.
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That does not look Mouse proof ?
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Originally Posted by FOURSPEEDVETTE
How long did it take you to blow that thing up? I know it has to be really time consuming for you to keep following my replies and trying to discredit them with your 'huge wealth of knowledge' but this stunt for you to blow that thing up, even with all your hot air, must have taken you hours! You might want to stop and seek medical help at this point.
I hope to god that you're joking here^.
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I hope to god that you're joking here^.
Aren't your little fingers getting really sore from SLAMMING the keyboard by now? For me, I'm having a blast with you and your (in my opinion) nonsense. But you have your way of storing a car, and I have mine. Let's leave it at that.
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You're making quite a few assumptions about my frustration level. Somehow you know how frustrated I am? This reminds me of the assumptions you made about C4 roofs. You really thought you knew what you were talking about there....to the point that you were condescending and aggressive towards anyone who didn't agree with your (misguided) opinion....and what ended up happening? In that case, I knew what I was talking about and the engineer for the car, Dave McLellan backed it up. In this case, I also know what I'm talking about....but Dave didn't write a book in "Winterizing" so I can't attach pics to prove it.

You can winterize your car using any rituals psychological fodder that you prefer. I don't care and no one else does either. But giving shitty advice to the unwitting sucks and hurts the forum. That's why I post, to help clarify for the OP. Note too, that my "opinion" is backed up with a degree in auto tech along with 25+ years as a fleet maintenance manager over 100+ vehicle fleets of gas, diesel, small and large equipment that gets used....seasonally. So I actually know what works, vs. what is treating psychology. IE, "It makes ME feel good to put carpet under my tires" -which accomplishes nothing meaningful.

BTW; of the two of us, who is throwing insults, typing in all bold, etc? Not me....I'm not slamming any key boards.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
You're making quite a few assumptions about my frustration level. Somehow you know how frustrated I am? This reminds me of the assumptions you made about C4 roofs. You really thought you knew what you were talking about there....to the point that you were condescending and aggressive towards anyone who didn't agree with your (misguided) opinion....and what ended up happening? In that case, I knew what I was talking about and the engineer for the car, Dave McLellan backed it up. In this case, I also know what I'm talking about....but Dave didn't write a book in "Winterizing" so I can't attach pics to prove it.

You can winterize your car using any rituals psychological fodder that you prefer. I don't care and no one else does either. But giving shitty advice to the unwitting sucks and hurts the forum. That's why I post, to help clarify for the OP. Note too, that my "opinion" is backed up with a degree in auto tech along with 25+ years as a fleet maintenance manager over 100+ vehicle fleets of gas, diesel, small and large equipment that gets used....seasonally. So I actually know what works, vs. what is treating psychology. IE, "It makes ME feel good to put carpet under my tires" -which accomplishes nothing meaningful.

BTW; of the two of us, who is throwing insults, typing in all bold, etc? Not me....I'm not slamming any key boards.
Your big problem is that you only see things your way. You project here and in many of the posts you put out that only your advice is the true corner stone and correct answer because of the background you say you have. You can't take anyone else's replies as helpful to members here as you get your ego hurt to easily. There are 1000's of good and useful hints to anyone on this forum. Too bad you don't get it or are just to stubborn to admit you can be wrong. As you sometimes most certainly are. Maybe listen to others here, read the entire posts, and try to figure out why others have different advice than you instead of always trying to be Mr. Know It All. What you say "you actually know what works" is total bullshit and condescending to the rest of us who try to give advice. Maybe we should all check in with you first from now on so we can all agree on only your replies. You seem to make quite a few assumptions yourself. Just don't assume we all agree with you.
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Originally Posted by FOURSPEEDVETTE
Your big problem is that you only see things your way.
How do you know how I see things? I don't think that you do. In the roof thread, I saw things Dave's way...he's the guy who oversaw the car's development...so I'm open to his input. That entire argument wasn't ever even "me seeing things only my way", as you claim....it was entirely based on facts gleaned from a book authored by the guy who made the car. Anyway, I may have seemed "closed" to you in that discussion and may seem that way in others too, but it's almost always for good reason. In this case my mind was more open to DaveMcLellan than you.


Originally Posted by FOURSPEEDVETTE
You project here and in many of the posts you put out that only your advice is the true corner stone and correct answer because of the background you say you have.
Well that ain't true either. When ever I can, I cite the most "expert" source that I can find. In the roof thread, that was the engineer of the car. In that thread, it wasn't my advice/opinion/experience that I was sharing...it was that of the guy who oversaw the car's development! As I just said, if I could cite him re: winterization, I would, but he hasn't written a book about that. SO I go to the next most expert source and between you and I....I'm sorry, but that's me. I have way, WAY more experience than you do so yeah, it actually is the more correct answer "because of the experience that I have". I'm sorry that you don't like that, but that is the case. I have more experience than you do re: cars/maintenance/vehicles etc. You could learn a thing here from me, or you could get all butt-hurt and bitch and argue with me. Your choice.


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You can't take anyone else's replies as helpful to members here as you get your ego hurt to easily. Too bad you don't get it or are just to stubborn to admit you can be wrong.
Once again, not true. I've learned a thing many-a-time on this here forum. I've eaten HUMBLE PIE...and more than a few times, I've admitted it when I do. I certainly can take helpful replies, and have for years.


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....always trying to be Mr. Know It All. What you say "you actually know what works" is total bullshit and condescending to the rest of us who try to give advice. Maybe we should all check in with you first from now on so we can all agree on only your replies. You seem to make quite a few assumptions yourself. Just don't assume we all agree with you.
Well earlier, you accused me of getting mad, slamming keyboards....Really? It looks like you are actually the one who is upset in this thread (and the roof thread too). I'm sorry you're upset. I'm not sorry that I'm not upset. I'm not sorry that I've told the OP that certain rituals are a waste of time, and even perhaps detrimental to the car. I do know what I'm talking about, and I know that because, "unfortunately", I have a LOT of experience with this topic. Why don't you take your own advice and learn a thing from my experience? Starting the car is not helpful to the car and I've given very specific reasons why that is -including informing you (and others) about water being a by-product of combusion....something that you obviously didn't know about. Right? So you learned a thing in this thread.


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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
How do you know how I see things? I don't think that you do. In the roof thread, I saw things Dave's way...he's the guy who oversaw the car's development...so I'm open to his input. That entire argument wasn't ever even "me seeing things only my way", as you claim....it was entirely based on facts gleaned from a book authored by the guy who made the car. Anyway, I may have seemed "closed" to you in that discussion and may seem that way in others too, but it's almost always for good reason. In this case my mind was more open to DaveMcLellan than you.


Well that ain't true either. When ever I can, I cite the most "expert" source that I can find. In the roof thread, that was the engineer of the car. In that thread, it wasn't my advice/opinion/experience that I was sharing...it was that of the guy who oversaw the car's development! As I just said, if I could cite him re: winterization, I would, but he hasn't written a book about that. SO I go to the next most expert source and between you and I....I'm sorry, but that's me. I have way, WAY more experience than you do so yeah, it actually is the more correct answer "because of the experience that I have". I'm sorry that you don't like that, but that is the case. I have more experience than you do re: cars/maintenance/vehicles etc. You could learn a thing here from me, or you could get all butt-hurt and bitch and argue with me. Your choice.


Once again, not true. I've learned a thing many-a-time on this here forum. I've eaten HUMBLE PIE...and more than a few times, I've admitted it when I do. I certainly can take helpful replies, and have for years.


Well earlier, you accused me of getting mad, slamming keyboards....Really? It looks like you are actually the one who is upset in this thread (and the roof thread too). I'm sorry you're upset. I'm not sorry that I'm not upset. I'm not sorry that I've told the OP that certain rituals are a waste of time, and even perhaps detrimental to the car. I do know what I'm talking about, and I know that because, "unfortunately", I have a LOT of experience with this topic. Why don't you take your own advice and learn a thing from my experience? Starting the car is not helpful to the car and I've given very specific reasons why that is -including informing you (and others) about water being a by-product of combusion....something that you obviously didn't know about. Right? So you learned a thing in this thread.


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I'm done dealing with you at this point. You're just TOO far out there with your extremely high opinion of yourself and your (questionable) skills for me to deal with. You're just not worth any more my time to converse with you. Have a nice day!
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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 09:56 AM
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That's great news. Thanks for letting us know, and I'm happy that you were able to rationalize your position.


EDIT: In case anyone re-reads this thread looking for GOOD information, I'll just drop THIS THREAD right here, about idling, and water in the "sealed up" engine and the exhaust system. Don't start and idle your car in the winter.



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Originally Posted by Vetteblack-96
Not to mention that dryer sheets smell better than mothballs!
Dryer sheets, DEBUNKED, here.

Try Decon.
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Well because of covid I didn't drive the car for 3 months, did have a full tank of gas and very low humidity here (NV). Gas should be ok do drive? (Dealer came over to take it in for some work few days ago)
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