Or you could just turn the key and start it.
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) probably need some time to digest it. Specifically, "what am I....insuring (sic)? 
Anyway, ya never answered that question.And what ended up happening in that thread? Now you're trying the same tactics again in this thread... Yikes.
Look, I'm not arguing just to argue. What I'm doing is trying to help the OP avoid inane practices that don't do squat (except calm the psyche of some), and out right misinformation. You know, misinformations such as:
The targa roof frame was never designed to strengthen the body or hold the frame stiffer....
...If any of you REALLY believe the thin targa roof frame with four little widely spaced bolts is really a frame stiffener for a 3100 lb. car, please never build be a house.
...If any of you REALLY believe the thin targa roof frame with four little widely spaced bolts is really a frame stiffener for a 3100 lb. car, please never build be a house.
...among other gems.
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Why? You can crank it with the gas pedal depressed and it would be in "clear flood" mode
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I read it...even asked you specific questions about it. You really need to go back and read my first original comment in post #20 very S-L-O-W-L-Y this time as (y'all ) probably need some time to digest it. Specifically, "what am I....insuring (sic)? Anyway, ya never answered that question.
^This^ little jab is especially interesting, coming from someone who had to ARGUE ABOUT THE ROOF STRUCTURE IN A C4. Remember that? Then, after that grossly misguided effort, you had the nerve to toss insults MY way. Remember that? I think you said something like...what was it? ....BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE ONE GUY WHO KNOWS IT ALL. And something about my being the self appointed structural engineer?
And what ended up happening in that thread? Now you're trying the same tactics again in this thread... Yikes.
Look, I'm not arguing just to argue. What I'm doing is trying to help the OP avoid inane practices that don't do squat (except calm the psyche of some), and out right misinformation. You know, misinformations such as:
...and...
...among other gems.
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) probably need some time to digest it. Specifically, "what am I....insuring (sic)? Anyway, ya never answered that question.^This^ little jab is especially interesting, coming from someone who had to ARGUE ABOUT THE ROOF STRUCTURE IN A C4. Remember that? Then, after that grossly misguided effort, you had the nerve to toss insults MY way. Remember that? I think you said something like...what was it? ....BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE ONE GUY WHO KNOWS IT ALL. And something about my being the self appointed structural engineer?
And what ended up happening in that thread? Now you're trying the same tactics again in this thread... Yikes.
Look, I'm not arguing just to argue. What I'm doing is trying to help the OP avoid inane practices that don't do squat (except calm the psyche of some), and out right misinformation. You know, misinformations such as:
...and...
...among other gems.
.
Going to the effort you've made here (really weird ) just to follow my replies from recent and years ago on this forum to discredit me is very impressive! Sad and weak, but nun the less impressive! Now try and put that much effort forth to stay on the original subject at hand if that's possible.
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so other then personal satisfaction is there any real evidence and proof that starting a sleeping car in the winter does any good. I know from my ten years of keeping my car stored in the winter by NOT touching it has done NO harm to it. and dare I say the battery is ten years old and has not been on a maintainer for the last eight years. I change the oil every spring and thats it. the value of my car is five times as much as the average C4 and my father with three 67 vettes does the same. what is so hard about believing that doing nothing is the same as doing 100 things.
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Hi all.
I will be storing my 96 for the first time. I live in upstate NY. LONG COLD WINTERS. I have a place to store with crushed stone floor (pole barn). I have a cover.
Next year I have a garage lined up for storage.
What's the proper protocol for long term storage.
Thanks!
Ed
I will be storing my 96 for the first time. I live in upstate NY. LONG COLD WINTERS. I have a place to store with crushed stone floor (pole barn). I have a cover.
Next year I have a garage lined up for storage.
What's the proper protocol for long term storage.
Thanks!
Ed
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It would be a good idea to put a sheet of plastic under your entire car with the floor being only crushed stone. That will help in keeping the moisture from under the car. Fill the tank with gas, and disconnect the battery or keep a charger on it. Clean the car as if you were putting it in a car show and keep it covered. Start it once in awhile during it's hibernation also. Pretty basic stuff like this will do wonders for your stored car. As far as wearing chicken suits, chanting, and doing dances around the car, it must work for at least two members here. But I don't recommend it.
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so other then personal satisfaction is there any real evidence and proof that starting a sleeping car in the winter does any good. I know from my ten years of keeping my car stored in the winter by NOT touching it has done NO harm to it. and dare I say the battery is ten years old and has not been on a maintainer for the last eight years. I change the oil every spring and thats it. the value of my car is five times as much as the average C4 and my father with three 67 vettes does the same. what is so hard about believing that doing nothing is the same as doing 100 things.
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Wrong. A plastic sheet on the floor will not keep moisture under the car. You're not wrapping the car with plastic. Just laying it on the floor to prevent moisture that WILL rise naturally.. You have air naturally moving around the car and under it when it's parked. Even in a garage.
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You most certainly must have those cars stored in a garage to have this kind of good luck. Glad for you. The original poster asked for suggestions. I and a few others gave him some. Too bad one member here is trying to hi-jack this post though. Weather and climate conditions play a roll in starting a car periodically while being stored. That's only good sense. I can argue that all the stored cars I own are started periodically and I too have no problems at all when they are pulled out in the Spring. Starting it costs nothing. Cleaning it costs nothing. Moving it around a little bit costs nothing. Why would these things be so bad for it?
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I can argue that all the stored cars I own are started periodically and I too have no problems at all when they are pulled out in the Spring.
Starting it costs nothing. Cleaning it costs nothing. Moving it around a little bit costs nothing. Why would these things be so bad for it?
Starting it costs nothing. Cleaning it costs nothing. Moving it around a little bit costs nothing. Why would these things be so bad for it?
Depending on where you store it. If you have a shed next to your house, sure. 10 miles away and it's time and gas and how difficult it is to get to. Is it worth the time to go someplace else, unwrap it, hook up the battery, run for a while, shut down, unhook the battery, wrap it up and go home? IDK. What's your time worth especially if the errand is fruitless? As to washing, again what is it worth especially when you have to redo in spring? If there is a good reason, by all means. I'd clean up the mud or bugs. If not, take it to a car wash, clean up and park after it dried up.
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That's all right 4speed. I'm used to it; when people realize how wrong they are typically resort to name calling and insults. I hope it helps you make up for your lack of actual knowledge. 
As for the reminder about your past exceptional contributions....trust me, it was easy to recall and find.
As for the reminder about your past exceptional contributions....trust me, it was easy to recall and find.
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I know many people that store their cars for the winter in a non heated garage with a concrete floor but never seen them put a tarp underneath it.
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Might be a fine point but a concrete floor can still
release moisture, however little...
Concrete certainly better than stone or gravel though.
If you're really concerned about dampness and location
and expense are no problem...get a dehumidifier.
That's the next best thing to a climate controlled garage.
release moisture, however little...
Concrete certainly better than stone or gravel though.
If you're really concerned about dampness and location
and expense are no problem...get a dehumidifier.
That's the next best thing to a climate controlled garage.
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depends on what’s under the concrete and if the floor is above the ground or not. Moisture comes with temp changes. Like I said if there is air flow it doesn’t mater. As the moving of air will dry moisture
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As for mice, I've heard that dryer sheets work like mothballs. I stuff dryer sheets all over the interior during the winter and the mice seem to leave it alone. Been doing it for 8 years now and no mouse problems.
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