Yeah but theres that FORD problem.... :U

My car cost me $12,500 and I can smoke a new Cobra that costs almost 3 times as much. So lets see, if I put a Supercharger on mine... Id be dead Im sure...

 

Rich - What does your car run? BTW I am ZBO2's son.

 

My car ran 12.42 in the 1/4 mile with drag slicks. I was not the driver, it was the shop that built the car that ran it. It is also smog legal and has mostly stock intake parts. If I were to supercharge it it would easily break 11.5, if I put a good intake on like a superram, I can break 12 Im sure. But 1/4 mile is not what I like to do, Im a street driver.

BTW, I had a 97 Cobra. If not for the fact it didnt have enuf leg room or head room for me, I would still have it, dont tell anyone! Actually, I am not ashamed of it.

In honesty, I have smoked a few stangs since I got the car, 3 were supercharged. But I dont race on the highway either, only light to light type stuff. My torque (all made at 3800 RPM) and gearing is just to much for the ponies to overcome.

But at 265 HP off the showroom floor, your car is no pooch either.

Rich

 

Rich - The car that is causing most of the stir here is my 92. Check the sig, but your 87 won't be teaching me anything. No Flames. I just traded in a 96 GT for the 01. The newer 99 and up stangs are much better.

 

this whole thing started as a chevy .... ford joke.....i'm a die hard chevy nut...always have been. it was kinda a joke to start this thread about my son buying a 2001 mustang gt....i'm sure all the dads out there know what i mean.
i happy that he's into cars and is a very good mechanic to boot. the fact that he likes fords....well to each his own. his 92 constantly is getting rave reviews from all the guys at the track....no matter what they own.......i've seen some vettes here with ...welll....rather pathetic paint schemes, i would never trash them....if they like it...thats all that counts...
alot of the vetts here running low 11's have as much if not more than he has in their cars. i just don't get all the bashing......i hope most of it is in fun....although some seem not......
Joe....zbo2 :confused:

 

SmokedurVette,

I like all racecars, even including Mustangs... I prefer domestics to imports, but thats just a personal taste thing....

I will say your statement above is not entirely correct. I have an 85 vette, and I have less than $ 24,000 in it, it would easily run side by side with your 92. Its a very docile daily driven naturally aspirated low compression motor motor that enjoys 27 mpg on the freeway and 17 combined. Its not perfect and certainly nothing special..... but its definitely not a "Old man's high 13's wanna be pimp car".

zb02,

I think everybody is just having fun.... which when you get the type of reaction as they obviously have... it makes for even funner fun.

cheers,
Beach Bum

 

Although words and opinions were tossed around in fun, things may have cross the line. If I offended you or your family I am sorry. :eek: :yesnod:

PS.. I still like my vette better! :D

 

I'm sure it's all in fun man... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

 

ZB02 - Next time your blacksheep son brings up that 26K for your car, remind him that back in 1986 people were dying for Corvettes and they were the fastest new American cars in those days.

Your right your son is a good mechanic based on the mods to the 92. I can easily see how that car would smoke a Viper. Paint looks great too.

SmokedURVette - I don't know why some people get so wrapped up in the Ford vs Chevy rivalry. The Ford and Chevy jokes are fine but why get so personal. Both companies made some really good cars and some really bad cars (Vega, Pinto, Grenada, Chevette, Citation).

I personally have a 73 Mustang Mach I (which gets abuse from some Ford Guys as well) 'Elenor from the original Gone In 60 Seconds' that had a 351C 4V 'there must be some torque in this engine somewhere'.

Good Luck - BTW - make your dad proud and ask him to buy you a new C5.

:hat :hat :hat

 

Everything here was tossed around in FUN, but to the JO that made a comment about my wife. That was a little uncalled for! We can bash cars all we want and that's what makes this fun, and that is what will keep racing such a fun hobby for all of us. That comment about my wife was definately immature. Hopefully someday we can all meet up at a track somewhere, and put all these words into action. I know I will be waiting to smoke some of you, and I am sure some of you would like to smoke my 92. We'll see.......... :seeya :cheers:

 

that is a nice 'stang. i had a '92 also with some mods 60mm tb, MAC eqaul length headers, 3.73 gears, 2 1/2" exh. gutted cats goin through some 2 chamber flow masters, lunati cam and so on and so on. MSD 6al ing. taylor wires under drive pulleys, and the kicker 150hp NOS system. really to many to mention. the car i liked it very much but like you i had to take the bashing from the bowtie guys around town. i had alomost $5k in the car in mods to hang with the big block chevys. i could hold my own with some of them. i bought the car in '93 with 8k miles on and began the mods. i kept for about 2 years and the wife said it had to go. i had alot of fun with that car on and off the track. but it wasn't where my heart was. ever since gm introduced the c4 vette in '83 that was all i wanted. i was 15 at the time. well a few years and rides later i finally own one, and are very proud of it. wouldn't trade for 20 pony cars. althought i consider the mustang to be a classic sports car, by no means is it in the same catergory as a corvette. a corvette stands alone. and the deal with the 'vette attitude',it does come standard with every vette.

btw- without the juice it ran mid 13's on street tires @102 mph
with the juice low 13.1's @107mph again on street tires probaly would run ahigh 12' if i had some good drag tires. :yesnod:

 

I've refrained from responding to this thread for quite some time. Usually I don't feel the need to prove myself to the "my car is faster than your car" clan, but this statement arose my ire.

The vette offers incredible objective and subjective advantages over a Mustang. Like others here, I have experience with both. I raced a '94 Mustang Cobra until I purchased my '93 vette. Both cars are incredible.

But my FIRST time driving the vette at Mid-Ohio road course I beat my best Mustang lap times by 5 seconds on a 2.5 mile course. So there you have it. With the same driver, an older Corvette smoked the top of the line Mustang by several seconds. Obviously, my lap times in the vette have improved even more, and I run about 10 seconds quicker than in the 'stang. But it's not an exact comparison as I've made a few mods to the vette since then.

From a factual standpoint, the vette offers a lower CG, independant rear suspension, lower weight, better brakes, near 50/50 weight distribution, and a million little things that show that it was designed for performance. The first thing Mustang guys have to do to road race their cars is move the battery to the trunk to improve the weight balance.

And please, don't counter this statement with the optional IRS offered in the new Cobras. Three different magazine articles I've read said that it offered little to no advantage on a road course due to the packaging and cost constraints Ford had to support.

Not to mention, the Cobra R, the full race ready version of the Mustang, not only costs more than a new Corvette (non Z06), but ran slower lap times on the track than the 'vette.

You obviously get negatives with a 'vette, too. My car is too damn low to the ground to be streetable on a daily basis. My Mustang could also hold four people and a keg of beer. My 'vette barely holds enough clothes for a weekend getaway. But these cars are in different classes.

From a subjective level you have such things as image and appearance. Looks are in the eye of the beholder, but the 'vette has more history and following than the Mustang. It also has an exclusivity that a Mustang will never have. Does that make Mustangs bad? Hell no. I loved mine. But due to the fact that Ford designed a car to appeal to the masses means sacrifices were made. That's why they sell 200,000+ Mustangs a year and what, 20,000 Corvettes? Maybe less?

In my opinion, for a straight line car the Mustang wins in most categories. Slappy is right, he spent a lot less to get a smokin' fast Mustang. But I know which car I'd rather be piloting when that hairpin is approaching...

If anyone responds to this post, please offer intelligent counterpoints, not flames. This is a discussion, none of us have anything to prove. ;)

 

It seems that things have calmed down a little, but a couple of you guys need to...

everybody together now...

Simma down now!

Is there any reason to call each other dumbasses? Aren't we all car guys here? If I said I prefer brunettes I can't imagine anyone would slander me. He likes Mustangs, I like them too. I just like vettes better. My opinion, based on experiences I've had in both cars. I state them, you offer your comments on my statements. It's just that simple, dumbass.

Sorry, had to put that last line in;)


[Modified by ScaryFast, 4:48 PM 8/16/2001]

 

It could be worse. He could be gay! Or drive an import!
I'd rather have my son like fords!

 

thanks guy's i feel better....and i would like to see him at the track agains't some.....non stock vettes.......and yes the gay deal would really be a damn sight worst than a ford ***....opps sorry son

 

I have seen this car around West Milford or somewhere around that area, do you drive around there? It looked just like yours. I don't mean to offend you, but at night, when we saw the car, it really didn't look so good, even a mustang dude who was in the car was making fun of it. What do you run in the 1/4 mile?

 

I don't have the car on the road anymore. My cousin has a flamed Mustang, but it looks nothing like my car. See the sig for my time, and mods.

 

Well i do apologize for my poor performance at the track numbers aren't all that matter, there are a lot of variables, and i still feel like a newbie, also that was in 90+ degree weather in high humidity at Bandimere. Your GT friends and even the Cobras aren't pulling much better than that. Uncorrected thats 14.8 at Bandimere most mustangs aren't even braking the 14's in fact there are alot of 16's and 17's, and when i thought they were the 6's they had 4.6 badging and GT bumpers. So while i hate to sound cocky too i do have and will continue to beat mustangs up here.
I don't see where you are getting that, i will admit to being beat, in fact i have raced a few Mustangs that were real close and a few that kicked my ****. Yes mustangs can be fast, no i am not the fastest car on the street, and i am not sure where you are from but most C5's and modded LS1 TA's and Camaros are running 14.2-14.6 so my 14.8 is very respectable thank you very much :mad Bandimere isn't an easy track to get traction on most Corvettes, Camaros, Firebird, and yes even mustangs have a difficult time getting traction without slicks.
Now while i find it humorous that you can make assumptions that i think i am unbeatable or a jackass, why don't you read your Sig that is what my comment originally started with, i don't think your mustang friends would like it very much if i went over to Stang.net and posted that my corvette was a Mustang Slaughterer Do You? I mean no disrespect, but there are a lot more corvettes that you won't slaughter, and i would invite you up here to see if you can get more "respectable time" certainly the C5's must not beputing up very respectable number either huh?