It's the washers!!
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I figure what little the washers cost it's worth a try.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
If you stick the teflon washer on the spindle and shove it in there it will not fit past the dust seal without tearing it.
I think the washers are designed to slip and the coating is there to let it slip quietly. There's no way in hell that nut tighted down on a ~25mm threaded shaft is going to hold up against 300 ft lbs of engine torque multiplied times 10 through the gear ratios.
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
You need to quit driving like a grandma.
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Nice write up, but I don't see how the washer is the cure. The way I see it 
, is the washer is there so there is no metal to metal contact. Instead of the shoulder of stub and face of bearing unit taking the wear from friction caused by backlash, the washer is there taking the wear and is serviceable(replace).
As you say, the backlash is still there. Lubing the splines and more torque on the axle nut is the answer for the click.
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, is the washer is there so there is no metal to metal contact. Instead of the shoulder of stub and face of bearing unit taking the wear from friction caused by backlash, the washer is there taking the wear and is serviceable(replace).As you say, the backlash is still there. Lubing the splines and more torque on the axle nut is the answer for the click.
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The fact that some people cant understand why, including me, doesnt change that
Lubing the splines etc just covers up the problem
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Not to worry, I had already made up my mind to go with factory specs. My washers should be here next week sometime so I'll get them installed and post results.
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Symptoms again
I have a very light clicking comming from my rearend I beleive, this clicking is only under acceleration. When the car is rolling to a stop there is no clicking. I can only hear the clicking if i shut of the radio and listen for it.
Will this clicking get worse? sounds like you guys are describing a loud clicking, I dont feel people outside my car can hear this but i may be wrong. Should i have my car serviced or just replace these washers and see if that solves my problem?
Will this clicking get worse? sounds like you guys are describing a loud clicking, I dont feel people outside my car can hear this but i may be wrong. Should i have my car serviced or just replace these washers and see if that solves my problem?
Last edited by airblaine; Nov 2, 2007 at 08:27 AM.
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St. Jude Donor '06
I have a very light clicking comming from my rearend I beleive, this clicking is only under acceleration. When the car is rolling to a stop there is no clicking. I can only hear the clicking if i shut of the radio and listen for it.
Will this clicking get worse? sounds like you guys are describing a loud clicking, I dont feel people outside my car can hear this but i may be wrong. Should i have my car serviced or just replace these washers and see if that solves my problem?
Will this clicking get worse? sounds like you guys are describing a loud clicking, I dont feel people outside my car can hear this but i may be wrong. Should i have my car serviced or just replace these washers and see if that solves my problem?
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
You can also get some high pitched *ting ting ting* noises from it. I suspect this is the actual metal galling from the surface and resonating through the halfshaft.
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To Agent86 and others, it is definitely the washers,,,, or in my case, the lack of them. Mine were MIA for some reason. I changed the hubs about a year ago, and although I'm sure there were none I suppose they could have been stuck to the old hub. At any rate, my car is a whole lot quieter going into gear now. I haven't driven it because I put it on storage insurance but I can tell the difference without driving it.
I want to thank quickcat again for the write-up, excellent tip.
I want to thank quickcat again for the write-up, excellent tip.
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My '96 has a 'knock' when the wheels roll.....fast start, slow start, forward, backward......knock-knock.....got the washers today and will get this done asap.....it is driving me nuts.....will keep you posted on the outcome.....thanks so much for all the info....you guys are the BEST....and I am so grateful to have CF for all this help.....
hope y'all had a great Thanksgiving....
Carol
hope y'all had a great Thanksgiving....
Carol
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Probably the common clicking, knocking from the rear spindle area.
http://www.artscorvetteparts.com/par...3-59f3634e182b
http://www.artscorvetteparts.com/par...3-59f3634e182b
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