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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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That was my point and aftermarket companies have a jump on in the world of disc in reguards to friction material and steels. It has been the band/drum arrangement that really hurts the 4l60s and the like.
The 4l90 is apparently going to be rated over 500lb when all is said and done. That gives us upgraded parts much like the 4l65 did right from GM.
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4.02 First (silly)
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1.51 Third
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It also uses a 300mm conveter, that should allow all aftermarket converter people to jump right in. Potentially the current converters can be used but its to early to tell for sure on the pump arrangement.

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So it looks like say a 10% change in the input planet set would net almost the same effective gear ratios we have now in the 4L60 except we would also have 2 effective OD. ratios.
3.62 first vs 3.06
2.12 second vs 1.63
1.36 third vs 1.0
1.03 fourth vs .70
.95 fifth
.74 sixth
Or the other option would be to go to the 2.73 axle and gain the additional strength of that gearset.
The real advantage is in the delta of the OD. ratio the 4L65 and 4L65 can be made to handle massave amounts of torque through the addition of extra plates and line pressures & calibration, I don't think the clutch to band design has any thing to do with it's limitations.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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6 speed would be nice but there is nothing made that cant be blown up. They will be a lot less expensive and parts will be more available in a couple of years. Me can wait.
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Hmmmm........ that looks d@mn good. How close is this to being an actual product?

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kromberg
Hmmmm........ that looks d@mn good. How close is this to being an actual product?

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that's it
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kromberg
Hmmmm........ that looks d@mn good. How close is this to being an actual product?

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They are allready on the road around here in Motown.
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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadRebel
They are allready on the road around here in Motown.


PHIL ANY 6L80E THAT ENGINEERS PLAN ON TROWING AWAY?
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All ready seen one come thru the scrap route. That's how I knew the length is the same or dam close to the 4l60 . Unfortunately its was pretty trashed.

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Old Nov 30, 2005 | 05:22 PM
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Your biggest issue is going to be getting around the TCU. It's integral to the valvebody now...I know of another company currently looking to interface thier TCU with it. If they get it to work, it will be a sweet setup. I've used thier current standalone TCU in other apps and it ROCKS!

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Originally Posted by RoadRebel
All ready seen one come thru the scrap route. That's how I knew the length is the same or dam close to the 4l60 . Unfortunately its was pretty trashed.

Phil


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when do you think these will be available? man i wonder how much?
any info on the fiber paltes? are they same as any other current gm??
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They are allready on the road around here in Motown.
What is the going rate for a setup?

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What is the going rate for a setup?

Keith
I think its a $1800 option op top of the cost of the new C6

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Old Dec 1, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadRebel
I think its a $1800 option op top of the cost of the new C6

Phil



phil when do u think itll be available over the counter? ball park price?
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I don't know if its been mentioned but this will be standard on the new GM SUV /Cadi SUV with the High output Motor/Block making 380 and 400 hp respectively. All other engine configurations will have a beefed up version of the 4l60E.
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I don't know if its been mentioned but this will be standard on the new GM SUV /Cadi SUV with the High output Motor/Block making 380 and 400 hp respectively. All other engine configurations will have a beefed up version of the 4l60E.


good all the more possible wrecks to buy from!
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good all the more possible wrecks to buy from!
plus more likely to to able to buy them aftermarket. I hope Rodney builds one with a paddle shifter attachment
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plus more likely to to able to buy them aftermarket. I hope Rodney builds one with a paddle shifter attachment

kevin @ tci will get one! tci/fast electronics will make control module. kevin will make stall and work on the vlave body and ill install it.....in MY car.
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Originally Posted by NICK YOSKIN
kevin @ tci will get one! tci/fast electronics will make control module. kevin will make stall and work on the vlave body and ill install it.....in MY car.
And maybe even fabricate the paddle like shifters for your steering wheel like the new 2006 C6 six speed automatic offers with this transmission.
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Originally Posted by BLOWN ECS Z06
And maybe even fabricate the paddle like shifters for your steering wheel like the new 2006 C6 six speed automatic offers with this transmission.
That would be very
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