Overheating problems Poll and solutions
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put in fresh DEXCOOL...seemed to help...only up to 221 today...mid 90's and of course humid as hell
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Jumping aboard here guys..... I just had a D1 procharger kit installed with andy's single intercooler setup and even with two bottles of water wetter sat my car actually overheated when i got home. Water and steam were spewing out of the overflow tank in front of the battery. The temps went to nearly 250 with A/c on and just granny driving from the shop to my house.
It has never gotten that hot before and the A/c wouldn't blow cool while sitting at stop lights in traffic. The night before I drove the car for a while and temps stayed below or around 220. Is it time for a dewitts radiator????
J
It has never gotten that hot before and the A/c wouldn't blow cool while sitting at stop lights in traffic. The night before I drove the car for a while and temps stayed below or around 220. Is it time for a dewitts radiator????J
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I've only had my twin intercooled procharger setup in for a week. I've had a few days off work and have been testing it out in 90-103 degrees weather all week and my temps wont go over mid 190's (knock on wood).
I think those single front intercoolers are the problem, or maybe the removal of the radiatior shroud.
I think those single front intercoolers are the problem, or maybe the removal of the radiatior shroud.
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From: Converse TX
Originally Posted by 1bigdaddy
Jumping aboard here guys..... I just had a D1 procharger kit installed with andy's single intercooler setup and even with two bottles of water wetter sat my car actually overheated when i got home. Water and steam were spewing out of the overflow tank in front of the battery. The temps went to nearly 250 with A/c on and just granny driving from the shop to my house. It has never gotten that hot before and the A/c wouldn't blow cool while sitting at stop lights in traffic. The night before I drove the car for a while and temps stayed below or around 220. Is it time for a dewitts radiator????
J
It has never gotten that hot before and the A/c wouldn't blow cool while sitting at stop lights in traffic. The night before I drove the car for a while and temps stayed below or around 220. Is it time for a dewitts radiator????J
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Originally Posted by 1bigdaddy
Jumping aboard here guys..... I just had a D1 procharger kit installed with andy's single intercooler setup and even with two bottles of water wetter sat my car actually overheated when i got home. Water and steam were spewing out of the overflow tank in front of the battery. The temps went to nearly 250 with A/c on and just granny driving from the shop to my house. It has never gotten that hot before and the A/c wouldn't blow cool while sitting at stop lights in traffic. The night before I drove the car for a while and temps stayed below or around 220. Is it time for a dewitts radiator????
J
It has never gotten that hot before and the A/c wouldn't blow cool while sitting at stop lights in traffic. The night before I drove the car for a while and temps stayed below or around 220. Is it time for a dewitts radiator????J
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I know everyone says to get the Dewitts but I'm not sold on it just yet. I think the better solution would be to get the twin intercooler setup from ATI or maybe try Andy's new setup. It looks like Andy's new setup helps direct alot more airflow into the rad. Straightening the rad will of course push more air through it versus having it lying down. I wonder what it would cost to have custom rad made to fit the stock location but be a 2 core and lower in height to clear the inlet tubes of the blower-a new condencer would need to be fabbed also.
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Originally Posted by Villain C5
I've only had my twin intercooled procharger setup in for a week. I've had a few days off work and have been testing it out in 90-103 degrees weather all week and my temps wont go over mid 190's (knock on wood).
I think those single front intercoolers are the problem, or maybe the removal of the radiatior shroud.
I think those single front intercoolers are the problem, or maybe the removal of the radiatior shroud.
Last edited by HIGHRPM; Jul 24, 2006 at 04:19 PM.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I wonder if a forum sponser can get an upgrade to the new ATI hi flow twins and the plumbing-with enough people this could be a worthy upgrade. I'm on the fence about the Dewitts but I really don't think it will cure the problem.
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I have a maggie. With the A/C on, which I usually never do, cruising on the highway in over 90F will give me 200* coolant, 225* oil. Now these numbers are well within the confines of GMs parameters...just ask the stock-tuned guys what temps they see before fans come on...
Either way, I'd like to keep the temps down a little more, as the maggie heat-soaks something wicked in hot temps.
I think the benefit of using a Dewits or other aftermarket rad is the "oil-cooler". The oil really keeps some heat in the motor, even if air-flow is sufficient. Dropping the oil-temps would certainly help keep the rest of the motor cooler...it's just another way to rid heat from the system. You centri-guys may need to address the airflow, though.
Running a lower percentage of anti-freeze and WaterWetter should also help shed heat more efficiently.
One thing I did recently was to pull the rubber trim from the back of the hood. It has definately helped with the heat, faster cool-off after the spirited runs!!!
Be good,
ace
Either way, I'd like to keep the temps down a little more, as the maggie heat-soaks something wicked in hot temps.
I think the benefit of using a Dewits or other aftermarket rad is the "oil-cooler". The oil really keeps some heat in the motor, even if air-flow is sufficient. Dropping the oil-temps would certainly help keep the rest of the motor cooler...it's just another way to rid heat from the system. You centri-guys may need to address the airflow, though.
Running a lower percentage of anti-freeze and WaterWetter should also help shed heat more efficiently.
One thing I did recently was to pull the rubber trim from the back of the hood. It has definately helped with the heat, faster cool-off after the spirited runs!!!
Be good,
ace
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From: Las Vegas Nevada
St. Jude Donor '08
Originally Posted by ace996
I have a maggie. With the A/C on, which I usually never do, cruising on the highway in over 90F will give me 200* coolant, 225* oil. Now these numbers are well within the confines of GMs parameters...just ask the stock-tuned guys what temps they see before fans come on...
Either way, I'd like to keep the temps down a little more, as the maggie heat-soaks something wicked in hot temps.
I think the benefit of using a Dewits or other aftermarket rad is the "oil-cooler". The oil really keeps some heat in the motor, even if air-flow is sufficient. Dropping the oil-temps would certainly help keep the rest of the motor cooler...it's just another way to rid heat from the system. You centri-guys may need to address the airflow, though.
Running a lower percentage of anti-freeze and WaterWetter should also help shed heat more efficiently.
One thing I did recently was to pull the rubber trim from the back of the hood. It has definately helped with the heat, faster cool-off after the spirited runs!!!
Be good,
ace
Either way, I'd like to keep the temps down a little more, as the maggie heat-soaks something wicked in hot temps.
I think the benefit of using a Dewits or other aftermarket rad is the "oil-cooler". The oil really keeps some heat in the motor, even if air-flow is sufficient. Dropping the oil-temps would certainly help keep the rest of the motor cooler...it's just another way to rid heat from the system. You centri-guys may need to address the airflow, though.
Running a lower percentage of anti-freeze and WaterWetter should also help shed heat more efficiently.
One thing I did recently was to pull the rubber trim from the back of the hood. It has definately helped with the heat, faster cool-off after the spirited runs!!!
Be good,
ace
Thanks,
Clayton from Las Vegas
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Originally Posted by eb02z06
I wonder if a forum sponser can get an upgrade to the new ATI hi flow twins and the plumbing-with enough people this could be a worthy upgrade. I'm on the fence about the Dewitts but I really don't think it will cure the problem.
Previously to the water pump R&R I had oil temps mostly even and/or occasionally just above the water temps (with the A/C on). Now my oil temps are consistantly 15* above water temps. Next is to add an oil cooler (and continue with air flow management improvements) which should also help water temps.
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St. Jude Donor '08
This is interesting-why would a Maggie have cooling issues-nothing in the front radiater cavity has changed? I remember way back when I had a 91 Mustang. It was a GT and when i put a Vortech on it it had problems keeping cool in the heat. Well that car eventually became a race car so I bought a 89 LX for the street. Did the same mods but this car had no AC and a grill opening that the GT's don't. It never got hot?
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St. Jude Donor '08
I wonder if we just spaced the condenser further out from the rad-like say maybe another 1 inch or 2. Didn't Peter Pan say his mechanic rigged up something to space out the condenser on his combo-he's not having any overheating issues in Texas heat?
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Originally Posted by eb02z06
I wonder if we just spaced the condenser further out from the rad-like say maybe another 1 inch or 2. Didn't Peter Pan say his mechanic rigged up something to space out the condenser on his combo-he's not having any overheating issues in Texas heat?
Don't confuse coolant temps with IATs....its high IATs that detonate motors. You can be safe 99+% of the time...its the one time when on a very hot day...slow town driving......heat soaked intercooler....= KABOOM. Severe detonation only has to happen once....and the motor is destroyed.
Keeping the intercooler in the radiator cavity is not the answer...go with the ATI high flow twins and let the radiator cavity cool the radiator. Adding an external oil cooler will take care of high oil temps.
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From: Long Island N.Y.
Originally Posted by eb02z06
This is interesting-why would a Maggie have cooling issues-nothing in the front radiater cavity has changed? I remember way back when I had a 91 Mustang. It was a GT and when i put a Vortech on it it had problems keeping cool in the heat. Well that car eventually became a race car so I bought a 89 LX for the street. Did the same mods but this car had no AC and a grill opening that the GT's don't. It never got hot?
I have a track-day with PDA at Pocono on 8/18(Friday is the day) and I assume that I will have some issues with heat. We'll see.
-ace