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Pretty much anyone who can drive will beat a 12.4. I can miss a gear and still run a 12.4.
Thats BS, I went to a test and tune and watched guys in C6Z06's, who said they could drive, run 13's and 14's all day long and blame it on track prep. Meanwhile a friend of mine with a TT Cobra on street drags ran 9:8x's on the same track the same day and the same lane with a street suspension and the sway bars connected granny shifting and 1.8-9 60ft's.
David426 is 100% on this, what the car is capable of doing and what most drivers can do are 2 different things.
No a SRT8 Challenger SHOULD not be a Z06 but on any given day, anything can happen. FYI, I have seen stock SRT8 Challengers run 13:2 A4 and 12:90-8 with an M6.
Last edited by Millenium Z06; Sep 27, 2009 at 08:13 PM.
No need to be a dick and do not believe everything you read in a mag. They regurgitate factory specs a lot of times. Corvette Action Center has the actual Factory Release memo for the 2002 model. I find it hard to believe any magazine would duplicate their claims.
Yes Texan1Z06 I took your response to my post as being a dick. I saw all those icons and took it for what is was. Everyone is big on the internet.
David, Sorry but I am not pissed. I'm actually glad they matched the press release numbers since they are non-performance driving writers. IF CD is your cup of tea I am sorry I pissed in it.
Now back to the topic, the SRT8 cannot compare.
Originally Posted by David426
I'm not being a dick, you are pissed because I caught another new forum member making statements that are false.. Car and Driver has no reason to hide numbers or to not do a road test.. They have been around for over 30 years.. Here is what Car and Driver says.. But I guess they are not credible and you are .. I will make sure to cancel my subscription to these liars
Chevy claims the car will sprint to 60 mph in 3.9 seconds—0.1 second quicker than what we achieved. We couldn't match the company's times for the 2001 Z06, either, but this time we're much closer, exactly matching the time and speed predicted for the quarter-mile.
Last edited by Eric Reeves; Sep 28, 2009 at 12:25 AM.
Yes Texan1Z06 I took your response to my post as being a dick. I saw all those icons and took it for what is was. Everyone is big on the internet.
David, Sorry but I am not pissed. I'm actually glad they matched the press release numbers since they are non-performance driving writers. IF CD is your cup of tea I am sorry I pissed in it.
Now back to the topic, the SRT8 cannot compare.
Seriously--sorry. It was intended as a joke, ..ie chevy = GM. I should have added j/k to it.........
Last edited by Texan1Z06; Sep 28, 2009 at 01:18 AM.
Thats BS, I went to a test and tune and watched guys in C6Z06's, who said they could drive, run 13's and 14's all day long and blame it on track prep. Meanwhile a friend of mine with a TT Cobra on street drags ran 9:8x's on the same track the same day and the same lane with a street suspension and the sway bars connected granny shifting and 1.8-9 60ft's.
David426 is 100% on this, what the car is capable of doing and what most drivers can do are 2 different things.
No a SRT8 Challenger SHOULD not be a Z06 but on any given day, anything can happen. FYI, I have seen stock SRT8 Challengers run 13:2 A4 and 12:90-8 with an M6.
Sorry, No hard feelings to anyone. Our cars are capable of low 12-s and high 11's with a well seasoned driver, good track prep, and a good D/A. However in reality I have seen more drivers,running times of high 12-s and low 13 second times because of 1 or more of the 3 critria mentioned above is not there.. It takes a lot of practice to get those 60'foot times down..
Last edited by David426; Sep 28, 2009 at 09:19 AM.
I ran an SRT8 Challenger on the interstate. I drive a 2002 WS6 T/A making 412hp to the rear wheels. The SRT left me like I was in reverse!! My buddies tell me it couldnt have been stock. I know my car is fairly fast, I did pull a 07 or 08 Shelby 500 by a half car. So who knows.........
I ran an SRT8 Challenger on the interstate. I drive a 2002 WS6 T/A making 412hp to the rear wheels. The SRT left me like I was in reverse!! My buddies tell me it couldnt have been stock. I know my car is fairly fast, I did pull a 07 or 08 Shelby 500 by a half car. So who knows.........
I doubt it was stock but your mistake, aside from running on the interstate, was running him where he's strongest. SRT8 Challenger, Charger and 300 are not that strong out of the hole but from a roll and esp at freeway speeds they can get the job done. With 412 at the wheels, and a 400lb lighter car, you should have won but chances are he wasnt stock.
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
Thats BS, I went to a test and tune and watched guys in C6Z06's, who said they could drive, run 13's and 14's all day long and blame it on track prep. Meanwhile a friend of mine with a TT Cobra on street drags ran 9:8x's on the same track the same day and the same lane with a street suspension and the sway bars connected granny shifting and 1.8-9 60ft's.
David426 is 100% on this, what the car is capable of doing and what most drivers can do are 2 different things.
Hmm, then I guess I am just an exceptional driver.
On a more serious note, I don't think we should judge the car's performance after watching some really bad drivers make passes. 13s and 14s in a C6 Z06 is embarrassing.
Thats BS, I went to a test and tune and watched guys in C6Z06's, who said they could drive, run 13's and 14's all day long and blame it on track prep. Meanwhile a friend of mine with a TT Cobra on street drags ran 9:8x's on the same track the same day and the same lane with a street suspension and the sway bars connected granny shifting and 1.8-9 60ft's.
David426 is 100% on this, what the car is capable of doing and what most drivers can do are 2 different things.
No a SRT8 Challenger SHOULD not be a Z06 but on any given day, anything can happen. FYI, I have seen stock SRT8 Challengers run 13:2 A4 and 12:90-8 with an M6.
Just compare the trap speeds. Even a lousy driver can pull a 113-114 trap out of a C5Z. No way a SRT Challenger will touch that...
Just compare the trap speeds. Even a lousy driver can pull a 113-114 trap out of a C5Z. No way a SRT Challenger will touch that...
Never said they could, I was merely pointing out the difference between what a car has the potential to do and what a driver can do. We all know that C6Z06's aren't 13-14 sec cars and we all know a SRT8 Challenger should not be able to beat a C5Z06.
Last edited by Millenium Z06; Sep 29, 2009 at 12:34 PM.
Hmm, then I guess I am just an exceptional driver.
On a more serious note, I don't think we should judge the car's performance after watching some really bad drivers make passes. 13s and 14s in a C6 Z06 is embarrassing.
You maybe, idk you and am not saying that you arent; I was questioning the "factual-ness" your comment of
Pretty much anyone who can drive will beat a 12.4.
by referencing the CZ06 runs that I have seen. Obviously just anyone cannot drive these cars well enough match manuf claims.
I'm not at all basing the C6Z06's performance upon what I saw a couple so called drivers do at the track; but it does validate both mine and David426's comments.
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Originally Posted by Millenium Z06
I was questioning the "factual-ness" your comment of by referencing the CZ06 runs that I have seen. Obviously just anyone cannot drive these cars well enough match manuf claims.
My comment was sort of tongue in cheek. FWIW, I was running better than 12.4s my second time out with the car. I'm confident that I could jump in anyone's stock C5 Z06 and beat a 12.4 in decent air.
I have a 3096lb 2000 FRC with a H/C/I/E with this combo the engine makes 515hp in total I spent 20,600.00 dollars car included. I have not been shamed on the road yet. C6 Z06's/Chargers/Mustangs/Imports The vette with a 3:42 gear or better and 515+ hp on the engine is as close to hillbilly supercar as it gets.
****, the times I saw must of been a typo or something, I can't find the article or website where i read that it only ran a 14.1. o well. saw a couple run at a 1/8 mile drag at an airport but never heard how fast they ran, one was a 6 speed and he would smoke the tires thru 1st and 2nd gear. Not the fastest way but sure looked neat. My dad did race a 300c srt and beat it easily with his caddy, but he should have.
The Z is a corner carver and the SRT8 is pure old school muscle. Right down the the parking brake on the floor.
You can take a Z and try to make it a muscle car, or you can take an SRT8 and try to carve corners with it, but neither will do the other's job very well.
I love them both (Though I own an R/T because I think that's got the better engine with VCT and better heads for 09, and my C5 is modified with Z suspension 243 heads, cam and headers, but not a Z).