I don't really get what you're saying. The '69 is iconic and I can see why they chose to style the car somewhat like it. Your Camaro Photoshop reminds me of a modern day Challenger more than a Camaro, at least from the angle provided.

With that said, I too was excited for the Camaro when it came back as I was a fourth gen firebird owner. As soon as I sat inside one, I was let down and didn't like the chop top feeling. I guess it doesn't matter, as I'm mostly over domestic cars anyways as there are much better choices out there.

 

Not a huge Camaro fan, but IMO the 69 is the Camaro to mimic by far.

 

I guess my point with that was people seemed to want the 68 looks more so than the 69, maybe it's just me , who knows. I'm with you on the feel of the new Camaro. I hated the way it felt. My rendering isnt even close to done. Its very difficult to manipulate an image and show proper dimensions. i will post the complete car when it's done. For me though, the 68 was the Camaro. I'm not sure why the 69 would be iconic but I'll take your word for it. I had 5 seperate 5th generation Camaros and I liked them a lot. The 98 Z28 I had was a rocketship. It was an automatic though, boring but really fast. All the other cars in my driveway are Japanese except my Vette so i hear you there as well. My 2010 Nissan has 94,000 miles and still feels like new inside.

 

I think the 68 is a far better looking car. Just my opinion. When I talk Camaros with people they all seem to bring them up as the one they want to own and build. Anyways, back to Vettes. The reason we are all here on this forum.

 

I don't think you opinion of first gen Camaros is accurate. 69 is the MY most coveted by builders/restorers, and lately the early 2nd gen is gaining popularity. My beloved first car was a '67SS, and I hated the vent windowless '68s. The only problem I had with the '69 MY, was the angular rear wheel opening made tire sizes more restricted. OTOH, it looked really cool, IMO.

 

I don't even consider domestics anymore.
Quality just plain sux. They seem like a 3rd world country built them and belong there IMO.

 

To be fair, a lot of "domestic" cars are assembled in Mexico, some even in China

 

Damn. I wish i had a 68. Yeah .maybe im wrong about what car to model after. For the newer Camaros but Id still pick a 68 in a hearbeat over a 69. Anyways . back to Vettes.

Ps. Nobodys opinion can be wrong. Only different.

 

Yup and a lot of "foreign" cars are assembled in America.

 

I believe a retro car has to appeal to new and old buyers or all they would have to do is remake an exact replica of the old car, it has to add something new also or it would be a total cop out. I don't love the retro look on most of these cars, they seem to lack an identity, and look blotted. I agree with black your rendition of the Camaro it does remind me of the challenger more than the Camaro. I like that the Vette is moving forward in design not backwards.
Just another opinion.

 

Remaking a carbon copy of the 1968 camaro would've been a mistake. If anyone has mirrored their cars the most, it's been Dodge, and they are bringing up the rear in terms of appeal.

Eric is the round taillights Corvette guy. GM went a different direction and cashed in, despite the entire forum screaming about round taillights the entire way. You have to forge ahead, on some level. Plus, you need trunk room, interior room, better sound deadening, better materials...this bulks the car, as does pedestrian impact and side impact standards. You can't just remake a 1968 Camaro for a multitude of reasons. The main buyer demographics of Camaro isn't guys that want a 1968...and I'm not even consulting market data.

Fact is, you're talking about a multibillion dollar corporation, who doesn't just build what some guy wants. They labor over it, analyze it, look at tons of polls, buyer feedback, market signals, you name it...then they put together a proposal that the board has to accept.

Again, you're repeating these so called "signals" you see, by looking at the picture for 5 seconds, compared to a TEAM of people tasked SOLELY with deciding how to proceed and bring the Camaro from death...and you say they f*cked that up to...LOL...you're on a roll man. Camaro has outsold Mustang since it released again.

You have to understand, GM simply has to keep brand loyalists on board...and making the Camaro like a 69 and not a 68 isnt going to cost them buyers with cash in hand, ready to spend. The buyers that spout about not buying due to some design quirk....I'm not buyin it. Camaro has to appeal to a current audience though, and capture NEW buyers...the forum guys are the last people they are worried about.

 

A couple body kits that work for me, I know they are not c5's but the c6 to c7 kit is cool and the c7 wide body is well super. I think I saw the c6 to c7 kit cost 60k

 

This is the only way to bring back old cars but at $120K, I'd have to be very rich..!

http://www.nydailynews.com/autos/str...icle-1.2156723


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I love their work. WILD!!!

 

Ok so my Camaro idea was a clinker. Moving on. Was worth a try.

 

Don't be too hard on yourself. Improving the new Camaro is a real Challenger.

 

Nice Jab

 

Front end of latest concept .I don't use photoshop. I use a program from 1998 called paint shop pro 5. It is ancient and takes me forever to do these renderings. This is now getting close to what I see in my head. The more I do this, the more I believe I will have to contract someone like Supervettes.

Now the question:
I paid 18k for my car, It has 42,000 miles now
Supervettes will likely charge 70k or more for this to be done.

Is this chassis worth this? That's the question. In the end it will still have a very average interior and the LS1 running it all with the rattle can transmission. Then the suspension needs to be done. I would also have to insure this car far beyond what I have now.

I'm starting to wonder if the C5 is worth it. After all, I could score a supercar with the money we are talking here. But, It wouldn't be a Corvette and this is where my heart is. Sure I could go buy a C7, only one problem, I'm not crazy about the cars appearance. Great cars, just not for me

The positives: There will be one of these in the world and I would own it for my lifetime and pass it down to my son.

 

Thanks for having my back Tom. I stopped listening to the critics in here. To me, our cars tell the story. For me, I have to build something special from the car I have. I just don't like what is commercially available. Sure I could go out and buy the same splitter and body kit as everyone else but I'm just not feeling it. When I go to the local Corvette gatherings almost every car has the same mods. This of course is fine and those cars are all nice and all but since I was a kid i would modify just about anything I had pride in. From Motocross bikes to just about all my cars. It's an obsession really. An obsession to be different, to have a special source of conversation and I can't lie, I like having someone say wow, I have never seen another like this. The Camaro redesign is what it is. I like the 68, everyone else likes the 69 but one thing is for sure. The GM Team missed the mark.
Let's remember that GM design teams also designed the Chevette and someone actually said "YES!!!!, let's build that!

The Jabs do not phase me. When I roll up to a show in my car when complete, It will be all the redemption I need. If anyone reads the thread completely they will see, I explained everything, I only fired back when provoked. I wanted to share my ideas, That's all. I didn't join the forum to argue with people over opinions. This is a pointless battle. It is why the world is at war with each other.

Example
You like Black, I like yellow. Let's argue about who's right. ya know what I mean?
Thanks again Tom, Guys like you help keep me here and posting my ideas.