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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nurburgring
Any possible way to get a poll on which octane we use for our vette's?
There is no need for a poll, this is not a survey of opinions. When the manufacturer and the experts say to use premium fuel, that's what you should use. 93 if it's available, if 91 is all you can get, then do it. 87 = NO NO.
But it's your car, do what you want.

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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 06:34 PM
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94 for me......


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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nurburgring
Any possible way to get a poll on which octane we use for our vette's?
Lets do a poll on who wants to ruin their LS1 because of engine knock...
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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 07:47 PM
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It I simple if you know your compression ratio that will tell you the octane you need, and no putting high octane in a motor that does not require it will not make it run better, that being said in Canada Chevron has 94 no ethenol
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Old Jun 25, 2016 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by novasscnc
It I simple if you know your compression ratio that will tell you the octane you need, and no putting high octane in a motor that does not require it will not make it run better, that being said in Canada Chevron has 94 no ethenol
LS1 is 10.1:1 compression ratio
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 07:48 PM
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91 is the best I can get in California. I also try to fill up before they switch to the "Gov. Brown clean burning Summer Blend"

for our 69 wagon I use VP C-16 but that is another story.
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 08:00 PM
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91 octane or above. Here in Iowa, we got nothing but 10% ethanol in 92 or 93 octane. I personally run 93 octane when available. NEVER less than 91 octane.
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Old Jun 26, 2016 | 10:12 PM
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Update... The tank was almost empty so i topped it off with 93 and a bottle of techron. Car seems to like that a lot better, I put about 30 miles on today and It ran a lot smoother and seem to have more power. It was a 101* here today, ran good and never got above 212* with a/c off.

Thanks everyone for the advice!

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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 02:14 PM
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Excuse my lack of knowledge on this, I'm still acclimating to the N/A world.. I understand why you run high octane gas, and I understand basic differences between Ethanol and unleaded pump gas. Why is everyone here so against ethanol? Does it mess up the fuel system?
I was wondering how desirable E85 conversions are for Corvettes? I love the idea of a cleaner, safer burning fuel which pumps out more power. And I don't care about filling up twice as often, its not a problem for me.
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e85 itself does not make more power, it has a better ability to resist detonation which allows a tuner to add more timing to your tune and that's where the power comes in
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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by neutron82
e85 itself does not make more power, it has a better ability to resist detonation which allows a tuner to add more timing to your tune and that's where the power comes in
Right. So in a NA engine, is the timing benefit all that great when switching over to E85?
In FI applications, E85 allows you to run more boost and advance timing, so I guess its doubly desirable..
What I'm trying to get at is this- lets say you buy a 2015 wrx. 260hp or whatever on pump gas. If you buy an E85 map, without any additional bolt ons your wrx can make over 350hp. That is due to your timing advances and ability to run more boost.
In a C5, would the gains be similar? If we push 350hp on pump gas, could an E85 conversion get you to 400hp just by advancing your timing? Or is it a little more complicated than that?

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Old Jun 27, 2016 | 02:44 PM
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In our corner of the world, you cannot find ethanol free premium.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ramm21
Excuse my lack of knowledge on this, I'm still acclimating to the N/A world.. I understand why you run high octane gas, and I understand basic differences between Ethanol and unleaded pump gas. Why is everyone here so against ethanol? Does it mess up the fuel system?
I was wondering how desirable E85 conversions are for Corvettes? I love the idea of a cleaner, safer burning fuel which pumps out more power. And I don't care about filling up twice as often, its not a problem for me.
Ethanol is corrosive to the fuel system. 10% isn't a serious problem, but 85% is unless the system was designed for it. The .gov tried to mandate 15% and gave up when the car manufacturers claimed it would void their warranties due to the damage it would cause.

It also absorbs water and gums up/shellacks injectors and carbs. Ask a boat owner what he thinks of ethanol. Or the small engine repair guy who fixes lawn mowers and snow blowers after ethanol was not drained before off season storage.

I only have e10 available. It hadn't caused any problems yet but I am concerned. I don't drive mine much because I am out of town a lot, so it concerns me. If I could use real gas I would.

One question about e85 I've never seen answered: does tuning it for e85 make e10 or pure gas unusable? From what I read, the LS1 can reduce timing to run on 87, but wasn't really designed to use multiple fuel maps. I've only seen 1 tuner (I forget who) who claims to have updated an LS1 to support 2 fuel maps with full performance on both. Since e85 is scarce around me, I would not do it.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 09:55 AM
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A stupid question about techron: are there negative consequences for leaving techron in the tank for long term storage? From what I've read, most burn up the tank soon after putting it in.

My often sits unused for long periods. I always fill it before storing, I'm wondering if it is ok to put in a bottle when I fill it up next time I store it. It will probably sit on a battery tender for several months.

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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazarus Long
A stupid question about techron: are there negative consequences for leaving techron in the tank for long term storage? From what I've read, most burn up the tank soon after putting it in.

My often sits unused for long periods. I always fill it before storing, I'm wondering if it is ok to put in a bottle when I fill it up next time I store it. It will probably sit on a battery tender for several months.
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 10:25 AM
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Thanks! I haven't had the fuel gauge problem yet, but putting in a bottle before storage looks worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Lazarus Long
One question about e85 I've never seen answered: does tuning it for e85 make e10 or pure gas unusable? From what I read, the LS1 can reduce timing to run on 87, but wasn't really designed to use multiple fuel maps. I've only seen 1 tuner (I forget who) who claims to have updated an LS1 to support 2 fuel maps with full performance on both. Since e85 is scarce around me, I would not do it.
if you are tuned for e85 that's all you can use on that particular tune... now if you have an e85 tune, pump gas tune, etc you can take your laptop around with you and rewrite the tune according to what you have in the car but you better make sure you know exactly what's in it unless you know how to tune yourself... it's pretty much the same as someone having a pump gas and race gas tune... a good friend of mine has a halltech in his car with a flex fuel sensor and he's tuned for everything from pump gas all the way up to e98... it's pretty cool, you can actually watch the ethanol percentage go up or down according to what he's putting in the tank and he doesn't have to rewrite multiple tunes... I built my fuel system for pump gas only, e85 is starting to pop up more and more around me though... I am not opposed to making the switch but I really don't want to have to go in and redo my whole fuel system again
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 12:56 PM
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My opinion on Octane is..........if you cant afford the 91/93/94 do not get a performance car. Why would anyone go against Manufactures recommendation on Octane, makes no sense?

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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by imjdoggie
My opinion on Octane is..........if you cant afford the 91/93/94 do not get a performance car. Why would anyone go against Manufactures recommendation on Octane, makes no sense?
Honestly it's probably LESS than $200 per year for most C5 owners
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Old Jun 28, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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If you have any objection to running the highest octane available at the pump the corvette is not the car for you plain and simple
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