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ebay Header Install
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'09-'10
Originally Posted by 98vert6spd
im very interested to see more about this. Not often oes a product that costs way way less than comparable products actually deliver. I am thinking about getting a set because the set i bought a year ago are not stainless and i really want the stainless look
Problem is stainless headers won't stay bright and shiney, unless you get them ceramic coated.
Burning Brakes
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I am in the process of installing these right now...did you have problems with the bolt flanges near the collector not lining up with the holes in the bellhousing? On mine, it seems like the bracket on the bellhousing would need to be reversed to bolt up correctly.
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'09-'10
Originally Posted by kawboy5792
I am in the process of installing these right now...did you have problems with the bolt flanges near the collector not lining up with the holes in the bellhousing? On mine, it seems like the bracket on the bellhousing would need to be reversed to bolt up correctly.
Yep, just turn it 180 degrees. Didn't bolt mine to the bracket as the Installation Tech didn't recommend it. He says that they will usually crack there from the expansion and contraction.
Have you tried installing the front O2 sensors with the headers bolted up?
Melting Slicks
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posts about header fit problems
I sent the guy who is selling these headers an email asking about the O2 sensor location problems and the "one hung low" (well, they ARE Chinese headers) problem. I'll post his response when I get it.
Charlie
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'09-'10
I've been asked how these headers perform. Well, I just got back from a 700 mile Cruise this weekend and they performed flawlessly. The only problem is they have turned a nice golden color. Numerous WOT blasts and sustained high speed runs and not a code or rattle. Definitely, some sweet exhaust music and a big grin. 
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Originally Posted by Vette Doc
Hey All,
We are doing a set of these right now and I can give you my .02 on this product.
From the top everything looks good and a nice fit. High polish and nice TIG welds. Time will tell how they last. Underneath is VERY disappointing to say the least, but these are $300 headers. The height variance from right to left at the collector is about 7/8" with the LS collector being very low.
The brackets at the collector that go to the bell housing are approx 1.00" too far back to bolt up and agin the LS bracket is about 7/8" lower then the RS. Very sad.
The LS oxygen sensor contacts the bell housing as mentioned here. I see that RPM did a quick fix by locating the sensor at what apprears to be where the bell housing brackets use to be. I personally would prefer the proper top location but they probably did not want to remove the LS header for the sensor relocate.
Again, it is very sad quality as far as fit, but they are $300 and not much more should be expected. Our customer will end up with approx $1200 into these headers to make them proper and that is with off road pipes. I guess we could do it cheaper by moving the oxygen sensor location to what RPM has and use aluminized steel for the pipes, but we prefer to stick with stainless and TIG welding as well as a proper fit. We will most likely also cut and re-weld the LS collector for proper height.
Hopefully down the road these cheap imitations of TPIS and JetHot will not fall apart. Hope this info helps some folks.
Mike Norris
We are doing a set of these right now and I can give you my .02 on this product.
From the top everything looks good and a nice fit. High polish and nice TIG welds. Time will tell how they last. Underneath is VERY disappointing to say the least, but these are $300 headers. The height variance from right to left at the collector is about 7/8" with the LS collector being very low.
The brackets at the collector that go to the bell housing are approx 1.00" too far back to bolt up and agin the LS bracket is about 7/8" lower then the RS. Very sad.
The LS oxygen sensor contacts the bell housing as mentioned here. I see that RPM did a quick fix by locating the sensor at what apprears to be where the bell housing brackets use to be. I personally would prefer the proper top location but they probably did not want to remove the LS header for the sensor relocate.
Again, it is very sad quality as far as fit, but they are $300 and not much more should be expected. Our customer will end up with approx $1200 into these headers to make them proper and that is with off road pipes. I guess we could do it cheaper by moving the oxygen sensor location to what RPM has and use aluminized steel for the pipes, but we prefer to stick with stainless and TIG welding as well as a proper fit. We will most likely also cut and re-weld the LS collector for proper height.
Hopefully down the road these cheap imitations of TPIS and JetHot will not fall apart. Hope this info helps some folks.
Mike Norris
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Le Mans Master
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'09-'10
Originally Posted by cruisemon
Any changes in performance, either measure or SOTP?
Charlie
Charlie
Purely SOTP, but they really pull from 3 grand up.
Melting Slicks
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From: Brentwood TN
When you get them on...
Quote from the Vette Doctor: The height variance from right to left at the collector is about 7/8" with the LS collector being very low.
The brackets at the collector that go to the bell housing are approx 1.00" too far back to bolt up and agin the LS bracket is about 7/8" lower then the RS. Very sad.
Please let us know if you see the problem with one side being lower than the other as posted bu Vette Doctor. The set he installded had the driver's side collector 7/8" lower than the right. I'm hoping that was just one set that had the problem and not an ongoing quality issue.
Charlie
The brackets at the collector that go to the bell housing are approx 1.00" too far back to bolt up and agin the LS bracket is about 7/8" lower then the RS. Very sad.
Please let us know if you see the problem with one side being lower than the other as posted bu Vette Doctor. The set he installded had the driver's side collector 7/8" lower than the right. I'm hoping that was just one set that had the problem and not an ongoing quality issue.
Charlie
Melting Slicks
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From: Leon Iowa
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Originally Posted by cruisemon
Quote from the Vette Doctor: The height variance from right to left at the collector is about 7/8" with the LS collector being very low.
The brackets at the collector that go to the bell housing are approx 1.00" too far back to bolt up and agin the LS bracket is about 7/8" lower then the RS. Very sad.
Please let us know if you see the problem with one side being lower than the other as posted bu Vette Doctor. The set he installded had the driver's side collector 7/8" lower than the right. I'm hoping that was just one set that had the problem and not an ongoing quality issue.
Charlie
The brackets at the collector that go to the bell housing are approx 1.00" too far back to bolt up and agin the LS bracket is about 7/8" lower then the RS. Very sad.
Please let us know if you see the problem with one side being lower than the other as posted bu Vette Doctor. The set he installded had the driver's side collector 7/8" lower than the right. I'm hoping that was just one set that had the problem and not an ongoing quality issue.
Charlie
Melting Slicks
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I bought these same headers in January. In mine the description said they were made by Stainless Works. I think I paid a little over $400.
Just got around to putting them on last week. Only problem I had with them was that the air pipe flanges were not threaded. No biggie though, I just used some nuts and bolts instead of the stock bolts. The O2 sensors were fine for me, though they need to be installed on the headers before you put them on(ask me how I know
). As far as the height there was a small difference between sides, but it didnt create any issues for me. They look great !
The sound is going to get me in trouble! I just cant stop stomping on it to hear the new howl! I'm running high flow Magnaflow cats and borla stingers. At idle it sounds more tuned than before..though not much louder. But at WOT the car just HOWLS, its such a beautiful tuned wail
Overall I"m very happy with them, and you just cant beat the price.
Just got around to putting them on last week. Only problem I had with them was that the air pipe flanges were not threaded. No biggie though, I just used some nuts and bolts instead of the stock bolts. The O2 sensors were fine for me, though they need to be installed on the headers before you put them on(ask me how I know
). As far as the height there was a small difference between sides, but it didnt create any issues for me. They look great !The sound is going to get me in trouble! I just cant stop stomping on it to hear the new howl! I'm running high flow Magnaflow cats and borla stingers. At idle it sounds more tuned than before..though not much louder. But at WOT the car just HOWLS, its such a beautiful tuned wail
Overall I"m very happy with them, and you just cant beat the price.
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Melting Slicks
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Overall I"m very happy with them, and you just cant beat the price. [/QUOTE]
Any problems with collector misalignment? There was a report that the driver's side collector was about 7/8" lower than the passenger side and that the brackets that attach to the bell housing were out of position about an inch. I'm hoping this was a problem just for that set of headers rather than a general issue.
Charlie
[/QUOTE]Any problems with collector misalignment? There was a report that the driver's side collector was about 7/8" lower than the passenger side and that the brackets that attach to the bell housing were out of position about an inch. I'm hoping this was a problem just for that set of headers rather than a general issue.
Charlie
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by cruisemon
Originally Posted by MawneeC5
Overall I"m very happy with them, and you just cant beat the price.
Charlie
Yes, the tabs to put the bell housing bolts through were an inch behind the holes. When I get bored I"ll cut them off and reweld them (Probably when I"m doing my radiator bracket
)But even with these flaws I'm totally satisfied with them. So they arent the highest quality(in minor details). The flaws are easily and quickly corrected with standard shop tools. Any shop that would greatly increase thier install price because of these minor inconveniencies is either LAZY or really enjoys thier vette tax. I installed these headers myself on my garage floor on jackstands in a few hours, I cant imagine a full service speedshop having any complaints.
Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Well I installed my headers lastnight. I didn't have to jack up the engine and they fit in just fine. I did have to relocate the O2 bungs but that was no problem. The only problem I had was that I had to do alot of customizing on the collector area. The collector piece that came with the headers wasn't even close so I had to do some major modding on that. Overall fitment was very good and the sound is even better. I didn't get any pics yet because it was about 3am and tired as hell.
Melting Slicks
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Great input
>I did have to relocate the O2 bungs but that was no problem.
Gonna guess this is a welding job. Is there an alternative for those who don't/can't weld but want to install the headers themselves?
>The only problem I had was that I had to do alot of customizing on the collector area. The collector piece that came with the headers wasn't even close so I had to do some major modding on that.
When you mention "not even close" was that because of the diameter of the collector relative to the cat back, the orientation relative to the cat back or some other kind of alignment issue?
Charlie
Gonna guess this is a welding job. Is there an alternative for those who don't/can't weld but want to install the headers themselves?
>The only problem I had was that I had to do alot of customizing on the collector area. The collector piece that came with the headers wasn't even close so I had to do some major modding on that.
When you mention "not even close" was that because of the diameter of the collector relative to the cat back, the orientation relative to the cat back or some other kind of alignment issue?
Charlie