ebay Header Install
Melting Slicks
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From: Leon Iowa
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Originally Posted by cruisemon
>I did have to relocate the O2 bungs but that was no problem.
Gonna guess this is a welding job. Is there an alternative for those who don't/can't weld but want to install the headers themselves?
>The only problem I had was that I had to do alot of customizing on the collector area. The collector piece that came with the headers wasn't even close so I had to do some major modding on that.
When you mention "not even close" was that because of the diameter of the collector relative to the cat back, the orientation relative to the cat back or some other kind of alignment issue?
Charlie
Gonna guess this is a welding job. Is there an alternative for those who don't/can't weld but want to install the headers themselves?
>The only problem I had was that I had to do alot of customizing on the collector area. The collector piece that came with the headers wasn't even close so I had to do some major modding on that.
When you mention "not even close" was that because of the diameter of the collector relative to the cat back, the orientation relative to the cat back or some other kind of alignment issue?
Charlie
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From: Dallas Texas
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'09-'10
Originally Posted by mvvette97
Well I installed my headers lastnight. I didn't have to jack up the engine and they fit in just fine. I did have to relocate the O2 bungs but that was no problem. The only problem I had was that I had to do alot of customizing on the collector area. The collector piece that came with the headers wasn't even close so I had to do some major modding on that. Overall fitment was very good and the sound is even better. I didn't get any pics yet because it was about 3am and tired as hell.
Sounds like your install went well other than the known problems.
Show us some pics of the mod you did to the collector area.
Instructor
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From: Cleveland Ohio
Guys
We do not make these headers or source having them made. We do sell our product for a higher price, but we also have better fitment and air tubes for the specific years so they bolt right up. Consider what Mike Norris said in his post-by the time you get finished with moving o2 sensors, cutting and welding, etc. did you really save any money??
We also back our product with a lifetime guarantee and will be here at our 800 number to answer any questions (800-878-3635). Our products are made at our facility in Cleveland, Ohio and we only use usa made, mil spec, certified materials.
It is very true that you get what you pay for.
Al
Stainless Works
We do not make these headers or source having them made. We do sell our product for a higher price, but we also have better fitment and air tubes for the specific years so they bolt right up. Consider what Mike Norris said in his post-by the time you get finished with moving o2 sensors, cutting and welding, etc. did you really save any money??
We also back our product with a lifetime guarantee and will be here at our 800 number to answer any questions (800-878-3635). Our products are made at our facility in Cleveland, Ohio and we only use usa made, mil spec, certified materials.
It is very true that you get what you pay for.
Al
Stainless Works
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From: Whippany NJ
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09
NCM Sinkhole Donor
Originally Posted by alnoe
Guys
It is very true that you get what you pay for.
Al
Stainless Works
It is very true that you get what you pay for.
Al
Stainless Works
Pay a few hundred dollars more and they bolt right up...no hassle..done!
Dig
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From: Port Saint Lucie FLORIDA & HONDURAS
Mike Norris Installed My E Bay Headers About A Week Ago. Like He Mentioned In This Thread. They Were Not Ligning Up Down Below And Had To Custom Fit Them.
They Look Great Sound Great And Hopefully Last A Few Years
I Had My Car Dyno Tuned After The Install But, Dont Have The Befor #s
I Am Going To Moroso Tonight To See If I Gained
So, If I Gained Anything And Have A Nice Looking Set Of Headers That Last... The $1,200.00 I Spent On The Headers , Install And Custom Work To Connect Them Will Be Well Worth The Money.
Mike Will Probably Disagree - He Had To Install Them ( It Probably Was A Nightmare Compared To The Top Brands
So, I Say To You Guys Buy Them
They Look Great Sound Great And Hopefully Last A Few Years
I Had My Car Dyno Tuned After The Install But, Dont Have The Befor #s
I Am Going To Moroso Tonight To See If I Gained
So, If I Gained Anything And Have A Nice Looking Set Of Headers That Last... The $1,200.00 I Spent On The Headers , Install And Custom Work To Connect Them Will Be Well Worth The Money.
Mike Will Probably Disagree - He Had To Install Them ( It Probably Was A Nightmare Compared To The Top Brands
So, I Say To You Guys Buy Them
Le Mans Master
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From: Houston TX
St. Jude Donor '11
Deos it really end up costing >$1000 to get these things fabbed? That is just not cost effective IMO. LG Streets are $695 and will meet up to your stock pipes. You could argue that you will still need to wack the front part off your mid section and band clamp it. For $995 get the headers and off road mid section that will bolt right to your rear section.
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From: Dallas Texas
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'09-'10
[QUOTE=5 Liter Eater]Deos it really end up costing >$1000 to get these things fabbed? That is just not cost effective IMO. QUOTE]
No it doesn't cost that much, if you have all the parts and the right installer. I've got under $1k in mine, actually closer to $900 including the headers and installation and all the additional parts like hiflo cats, clamps, gaskets, O2 sensor extentions, and reducer pipes.
No it doesn't cost that much, if you have all the parts and the right installer. I've got under $1k in mine, actually closer to $900 including the headers and installation and all the additional parts like hiflo cats, clamps, gaskets, O2 sensor extentions, and reducer pipes.
Melting Slicks
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From: Springhill FL
I've got 450 total in mine including the reducers and clamps. I already had high flow cats. They werent difficult to install at all. I installed them in a couple of hours on my garage floor with no problems whatsoever.
As I said before, any speed shop that says they are more difficult to install is lazy and/or trying to get more money from you because you told him where you got them. If they come anywhere near 1k total for install you need to ask the shop if they also changed your blinker fluid, because they think you are sucker.
Please notice, every single bad review on them so far has been by someone that stands to lose money if everyone starts buying these.
As I said before, any speed shop that says they are more difficult to install is lazy and/or trying to get more money from you because you told him where you got them. If they come anywhere near 1k total for install you need to ask the shop if they also changed your blinker fluid, because they think you are sucker.
Please notice, every single bad review on them so far has been by someone that stands to lose money if everyone starts buying these.
Last edited by MawneeC5; May 11, 2006 at 01:40 AM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Brentwood TN
Header install
Originally Posted by MawneeC5
I've got 450 total in mine including the reducers and clamps. I already had high flow cats. They werent difficult to install at all. I installed them in a couple of hours on my garage floor with no problems whatsoever.
As I said before, any speed shop that says they are more difficult to install is lazy and/or trying to get more money from you because you told him where you got them. If they come anywhere near 1k total for install you need to ask the shop if they also changed your blinker fluid, because they think you are sucker.
Please notice, every single bad review on them so far has been by someone that stands to lose money if everyone starts buying these.
As I said before, any speed shop that says they are more difficult to install is lazy and/or trying to get more money from you because you told him where you got them. If they come anywhere near 1k total for install you need to ask the shop if they also changed your blinker fluid, because they think you are sucker.
Please notice, every single bad review on them so far has been by someone that stands to lose money if everyone starts buying these.
Charlie
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From: Cussing at my car somewhere
I am NOT seeing how any of you are putting $1k into these things. I've got probably $425 before install -which I intend to do myself (includes GM manifold/AIR gaskets, AIR block-off plates, o2 extensions, o2 plugs/new bungs, minus welding, which is probably going to be around $100, if that). I'm not using cats, but there's plenty of high flow cats available that aren't $$, such as random tech. Function takes precedence over brand names, imo.
If you're all saying $1k installed - that's a hell of alot different than $1k for just the parts, which is all that the other headers include.
You can't compare an installed set to an un-installed set. And like what's been said, if a shop is going to charge $500 to install a set of headers, because they have to do a bit of extra welding, you need to find a new shop.
If you're all saying $1k installed - that's a hell of alot different than $1k for just the parts, which is all that the other headers include.
You can't compare an installed set to an un-installed set. And like what's been said, if a shop is going to charge $500 to install a set of headers, because they have to do a bit of extra welding, you need to find a new shop.
Melting Slicks
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From: Brentwood TN
these headers and cats
Are the stock cat converters usable with these headers? I live in the Nashville area and we have emission inspections and testing. No cats, no tags. I don't know enough about long tubes to know whether they exclude using the cats or not. 
Charlie
Charlie
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From: Dallas Texas
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'09-'10
Originally Posted by cruisemon
Are the stock cat converters usable with these headers? I live in the Nashville area and we have emission inspections and testing. No cats, no tags. I don't know enough about long tubes to know whether they exclude using the cats or not.
Charlie
Charlie
Melting Slicks
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From: Springhill FL
The Stainless Works ones do look a bit different, though similar enough that these are probably modeled after them.
I wouldnt recomend it. What made my install so easy was the fact that I had aftermarket cats already. Having a clamping point both before and after the cats made everything more adjustable. 
You can grab MAgnaflow high flows off Ebay for about $60 each
Originally Posted by cruisemon
Are the stock cat converters usable with these headers? I live in the Nashville area and we have emission inspections and testing. No cats, no tags. I don't know enough about long tubes to know whether they exclude using the cats or not.
Charlie
Charlie
You can grab MAgnaflow high flows off Ebay for about $60 each
