Many of us have aftermarket air filters, cold air boxes or even aftermarket MAFs. Is there any issues with these being used with the ProCharger?

Also, many of us have A4's. With this much additional power what needs to be done to the A4, if anything?

Tony

 

Hey Peach,

Since you live close to Mike Norris, do you know if he's an ATI dealer? I know for a fact he will be installing and warrantying ARE's TT when he comes out with it but I'm also wondering if Mike will do a PROCHARGER especially if enough people want it. He does offer an SC but I believe its the PTC custom made C5 kit because up until now. there were no mass produced kits.

I'm sure the product is good but for $12,500 for an SC, no thanks. I might shove out the $12,500 for TT technology especially since its coming from ARE. I'll make a decision by Spring when both products have been out for a little while. But ether way, I would have Mike do the work. If you find out anything, let me know.

 

I'm just saying compare apples to apples, #1 this kit hasn't been installed on anyones car that "WE" know or have heard of - it is a new kit.

I just don't see any need to go getting everyone worked up over "hearsay"

For all we know that guy might have been some 16yld punk, that blew things out of proportions and went about getting help the wrong way by shooting his mouth off and using the work "sue" in every other sentenance.

If that was the case F-HIM, if not who knows, but thats just me.

Give ATI a chance you won't be disapointed.

 

Im about 40 mins from Mike, I have been trying to get there for 2 weeks to have my car dynoed. I want to do it before the underdrive pulley and ported throttle body go on, and then after.

 

I think your apple to apple suggestion is a wise one, Only I'm looking at the "Customer Satisfaction" apple. Not saying the owner is right. He could have been abusive for all we know. Maybe he even had other mods which played a role. But I think people should have the right in making their own decison on that issue which is why I posted the link. At the same time, I'm also looking for ATI or an ATI dealer, such as Tom, to comment on the situation.

As far as it being a new product, I believe I might be correct when I say it isn't. Sure, the C5 KIT itself is new as far as a mass produced kit which brings the costs down. But the core of the SC system is not. Now i could be mistaken but once again, I'm more concerend about ATI's product support, whether its on a Corvette or a Yugo, anyway.

As far as ATI and VORTEC being reputable, I agree that they are and thats important. In fact, it gets their foot in the door so to speak. But don't think for one moment that means you are safe. Sometimes, the size of a company dictates their arrogance. If you read all the negative posts a few months ago about HRE customer service, you'll see what I mean. My Motto, never Drop Your Guard in a Buyer Beware world. If you still get the shaft, and that will happen too, then you can say you did your best and continued behavior will at least minimize major headaches.




[Modified by Ha-Ha, 5:34 PM 12/6/2001]

 

AND THE SOUND TOO :cry

 

I would like to know what all you have to do to install? What if anything has to be removed? I'm guessing for 8 hours min. your going to be taking a lot of stuff apart.

Jerry

 

Ha-Ha,
If you think they’re gonna warranty your motor after you buy their $5.5K kit you’re in for a big surprice :nono:
The warranty will be on the kit itself and that it.
Even if the impeller blows up and goes through your motor f**king it up comletely, I doubt they’d cover anything more than a new blower unit even though it would be their fault 100%. Those are just the risks you have to take…
Tom, I’d love to see some picture of the system.
I’m assuming it’s Air to Air intercooler…. Where is it located?

 

Agreed..... :yesnod:

 

I have some pics of one installed on a C5. These were sent to me by Kenny at Golden West Automotive. I feel it only fair to credit the source, though they may not be a forum vendor. If the pics and credit are removed by the moderators, you can email me and I'll send them. This MAY NOT be the exact kit Tom is referring to, I do not know, but it is a new ATI Procharger and would be similar and give you an idea. I do not have pics of the intercooler that sits in front of the radiator in the center. This is not my car, I'm sorry I cannot give the appropriate credit to the owner.





ZZ

 

EuG is right, most likely the warranty will cover the kit only and most likely special limitations like warrantied for x years with the base pulley, professional install and no other power adders.

I base that from Vortech's warranty. I bought a 6 lbs kit for my 97GT Mustang. Had Steeda install it and as long as I kept the stock 6 lb kit and didnt increase boost, their warranty was THREE Years! If you changed pulleys and upped the boost, your on your own. I think for an aftermarket part, 3 years is fantastic (better than warranty from a Stage 2 H/C install :yesnod:) and it sure came in handy.

Months before my Z06 was to be built, my intake cracked and at the same time I spun a bearing in the Vortech and pieces flew into the intake. Luckily all the pieces were recovered from the intake and didnt go any farther and I checked the receipt on my Vortech and I had ONE month left on the 3 year warranty! I overnighted it to Vortech on Monday, they fixed it under warranty and overnighted back by Friday. I paid the local stang shop for removal and reinstall of the Vortech and luckily the intake was under recall and taken care of at a Lincoln dealership.

Sorry for the long story but I wanted to show a couple of points.

One, ProCharger is a reputable company and their warranty should be similiar. If not, I swear by Vortech and say, if ProCharger can't give a decent warranty, then wait for Vortech to come out with a kit. With my past experience with Vortech, if they every come out with a kit, I'll have to consider them again cause even though I traded in a GT for a Z cause I wanted some naturally aspirated power, a 100+ boost in my Z from a supercharger sounds wicked and I do miss hearing that supercharger whine now and then. The look on peoples faces (like this... :eek:) when they hear that whine... worth the cost of the SC :D

And Second point of my story, factory warranty. People will always ask... Will it void my warranty? And the answer is... It depends. Adding a supercharger, or most mods, should not void a warranty and that is law. Now if they determine that the mod was a direct cause of whatever problem you may have in the future, then it will void your warranty for that item. In my experience, even though the bearing flew into the intake, they still realized that the intake was faulty and replaced the intake and were nice enuff to get the SC pieces out of the intake. But that was the Lincoln dealer. Their manager was a weekend racer at Moroso so he understood the SC probably didnt cause the crack :cool:. BUT, the Ford dealer I took it to before them wouldnt touch it the moment they saw the blower :nono:. So "your mileage may vary" when it comes to warranty work in the future.

But my philosophy... "If your willing to play, be willing to pay." If any of those pieces had gone into the block... I would have been one sad puppy.

don
[Modified by don527, 10:34 PM 12/6/2001]

 

The pictures that ZZ posted gives you a very good idea of what this system looks like :)

Tom
www.tbyrnemotorsports.com

 

Tom
When you have data on how it will work with the LS6 please email me.
Randy Goss
rfgoss1@yahoo.com

 

man oh man, I can't wait to get this kit. I had their stage 2 kit on my 97 mustang for a year. It worked great and never gave me any trouble and it definately woke that 4.6 motor up in a big way. I installed it myself over one weekend and it was pretty straight forward. I had to tap the oil pan for that kit though. I am definately getting this kit for my z06 if it becomes available. :D

 

My modest employer posted from XTREME MOTORSPORTS,Nate actually is a pioneer in the C-5 SC field .As written up in Corvette Fever magazine when he built the 1st C-5 SC'd ever.Look us up great work.David S.

 

I am demanding :D that this kit or a variant be given the green light by Procharger for the LS6 - be it 01 or 02.

EB_Z06

 

I'll see if they need to get an LS6 in house for an install. This is going to work great on the LS1 and even better on the LS6 :) With these cars running low 12s stock, I wouldn't be surprised to see high 10s with the blower.

Tom
www.tbyrnemotorsports.com

 

Cant wait for more info and pics :cool:

 

Another Q, could this ProCharger be added to a car with h/c and a small shot of Nitrous?

 

It could but I would strengthen the motor or at least go with a set of aftermarket head gaskets and bolts to keep the heads from lifting. Supercharged cars like nitrous. A 35hp shot would feel like your spraying 70! I'll be doing this in the Z that I mentioned earlier in the thread - 409 iron block stroker motor that is studded and o-ringed,Stage II LS6 heads, LS6 intake, D-1SC ProCharger with twin intercoolers and a 35 or 50hp shot of nitrous. Looking for high 9s off the bottle. Then we'll see where it goes with the spray :)

Tom
www.tbyrnemotorsports.com