Not saying it would be easy. But when it might be you or them, who in their right mind wouldn't?

Personally I think anybody who gets rid of robbers, vandals, etc is doing the nation a great service. And if I was on a jury, I would hold out until hell freezes over to protect them. Just convince me it wasn't you that intiated the problem.

 

guess I'm #101; too slow. #102. all I can say is, glad you are ok, OP. take some more precautions re car and home. but aside from that, as one poster said all the gun-talk considering someone is/has the element of surprise and when to do it to you, is just silly if you ask me. you could have the most lethal weapon at the ready and having one pointed at your head kinda negates what you got.

 

 

 

Wow. This thread has stretched to 6 pages and no further info or any replies from the OP since he started it. I see a lock in the near future here.

 

That's the wrong question. I doubt anyone here would shoot the guy in the back as he's leaving with your wallet. But when the thug is standing there pointing a gun at you, then more than your wallet is at stake. He's threatening your life, and using lethal force to end the threat is an appropriate response.

If you could retreat in complete safety, minus your wallet, that is always the best choice. But in a parking lot alone vs. a thug with a gun there is no opportunity to retreat safely.

 

Could be to keep you from following them long enough to get a tag number or other info to give the cops. I agree that they are not coming after your car. If they wanted it they would have taken it when they took your wallet.

 

right. that's called "car-jacking." but it doesn't eliminate the possibility that they may want it later. may not be probable, but neither is walking out of your gym and getting held up at gunpoint.

oh, and btw, unless you're this guy AND have your hand on your gun (notice that?) as the gunman pulls his on you.....you haven't got a chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_H0dYEjR-jA

 

Typical large city. In our case, it got even worse after hurricane Katrina when scum bags from Newawlins relocated here.

Personally, I go with the KelTec P3AT.

 

Thanks for the video. That guy is Fasttttttt!!!

 

Most folks who are serious enough about guns to get a CCL know what a belly gun is. And most peole who get robbed at gun point ARE within 3 feet. And to be honest, my KelTec P3AT is plenty accurate to put 3 in the torso at much further than 3 feet. I would love to have my Sig P229 (.40 S&W) in my pocket but it won't fit.

Of course, the turd in the punch bowl is that you may not have it in your hand when you need it. Admittedly, if someone sticks a gun in your face, you may not be able to grab your gun in time. And that is actually the more likely scenario. It's the price we pay for living in a free society. However, if I can put the odds in my favor 40% of the time - I will.

Now, I have a question for all you - " are you willing to take a life over a wallet people" :

You walk out of the store. It's dark. You see two thugs approaching you. You could slip your KelTec P3AT out of your back pocket just in case. They pull a gun. Now it's time for you to decide whether to hand them your wallet, or some hot lead.

Answer this: Tell me how you know if they are going to just take your wallet, or if they are going to shoot you? If you have that one figured out (I'm not talking about the next day on an internet discussion) I would love to know your secret.

 

:BS: I got a .380. Wanna stand in front of it ?

Gotta laugh at all the "size" references that evolve in these threads.

 

Hurricane Katrina was one of the worst things to happen to Texas.

 

And if he's really smart he'll take the cash and then sell the ID/credit cards to an ID theft ring.

I agree with the poster who suggested the credit freeze.

 

Obviously this is situation-specific, but you are right, if they have the draw on you in an ambush, you have to play the percentages and comply (unless they ask you or a loved one to go with them, or they are dumb enough to turn their backs on you). I know a cop who was carjacked, they just got the draw on him, so he gave it up. Now, in your own home where you hear them coming and you have some advantage, that's a different matter. Or of course if they turn their backs on you and you can reach for the CCW.

Ah, so we do have some liberals on this forum, I knew there had to be some lurking.

Dude, a robbery is a violent crime against the person, not a crime against property like petty theft. One has to assume a person pointing a gun at you is willing to pull the trigger just for the hell of it, and is not a rational actor.

And no, I have not killed someone before, but I have no doubt in my mind that if it were my life or the life of a loved one in peril, I would do what I had to do. Would it be a fun and litigation-free experience? Probably not. But sometimes in life the right thing is an unpleasant thing.

And I honestly cannot understand the mentality of someone who would not take a life to protect their own, or more importantly, one of their loved ones. Now that's cowardice. Seriously, if you marry someone who would not kill or die for you, you've married the wrong person.

OK, to lighten things up a bit - after all, this is a happy thread because OP is OK - here's a great video of a Chihuahua scaring off some "tough guy" armed robbers. You see, we in California have little dogs to protect us instead of guns.

 

 

Do you have ESP ?

 

I've had to draw my weapon twice in situations where I feared for my life. Both times the aggressor decided retreat was a viable option, so I did not have to fire. Had they chose a different option I would have fired 3 rounds before he had a chance.

How's 10 feet for up close and personal, close enough for you? It was for me, way to close!

 

Holy Crap !! That guy talks a lot of crap ....... and he CAN !!

 

Jeez Mike, I had no idea you are so well armed. We're due for dinner and I sure don't want to get in a pissing match with you over who ate the most food when the bill comes!