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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthony @ LGMotorsports
I have been speaking to the rep here about LG Motorsports being an authorized dealer and should have things setup shortly.

Looks to be promising. I'll let everyone know as soon as we start on the first car.
Sounds Good
Can't wait to see some numbers.

Just wanting to keep it TTT
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 12:34 AM
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i was at the Barret Jackson show and saw the E-force unit on display.

the sales rep (not from Edelbrock, another company.. I forgot whom) said the Corvette units should start shipping around the Third or Fourth of Feb.

Plus there was a Show Special price of $5999.00 for the LS3 corvette base unit.
.. that tells me there is some 'wiggle' room in the Previously listed MSRP of $6500.00

it took a lot of effort not to whip the ole' Amex Card
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TMRoc
Sounds Good
Can't wait to see some numbers.

You and me both!
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 71'AirStrike
i was at the Barret Jackson show and saw the E-force unit on display.

the sales rep (not from Edelbrock, another company.. I forgot whom) said the Corvette units should start shipping around the Third or Fourth of Feb.

Plus there was a Show Special price of $5999.00 for the LS3 corvette base unit.
.. that tells me there is some 'wiggle' room in the Previously listed MSRP of $6500.00

it took a lot of effort not to whip the ole' Amex Card
I'd have wired you the $$$ immediately to pick me one up.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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Plus there was a Show Special price of $5999.00 for the LS3 corvette base unit.
.. that tells me there is some 'wiggle' room in the Previously listed MSRP of $6500.00
So exactly which vendor was offering the special at the Barret Jackson show?
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Telepierre
So exactly which vendor was offering the special at the Barret Jackson show?
sorry boss I dont recall. Ill try my Google-Foo

if you are at the BJ show, walk through the FOrd dispaly, stay right.
you will see the E-Force on display right there.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 08:54 PM
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check out the video


http://www.jegs.com/p/Edelbrock/Edel...87709/10002/-1
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this thing could be big

BUT wonder if they rec pinning the crank pulley
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Originally Posted by knkali
this thing could be big

BUT wonder if they rec pinning the crank pulley
they do..


the real big question is...

on the 599HP kit comes with the z06 in tank fuel pump, smaller pulley and matching diablo tuner.

...why not use a BAP on the smaller pulley package instead of a Z06 pump?

My complete WAG is the C6 in tank pump cannot handel the extra demand for gas on the increased boost. So they throw in a Z06 pump and call it good.

My guess is the 18Volts will shorten the pumps life span, lead to its failure and may cause the engine to pop (this is my interpation only).

for me.. my car is a weekend warrior only, and I "listen" to my car. If something is not right or sounds/feels off I fix it.

im willing to 'risk' using a BAP on a stock C6 pump for the ease of not having to drop the fuel tank to installa z06 pump.

If/when the pump does fail. Then Ill up grade to the Z06 unit, and keep the BAP connected.
that should give me MORE POWER! Muhahahahaha
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 08:13 AM
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glad there is no LS2 version so I do not have any temptation
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Looking at the data they specifically state that the numbers obtained are FLYWHEEL rated only

That makes this unit significantly less powerful than either the Maggie or the various centri units available that like the e-force do not require a hood change.

For sure you are blowing your warranty on a new LS3 GS and unless you do ALL the labor you will spend half the difference for the cost of a new Z06 with a warranty and no hassles.

For me these lower power levels have removed a LS3 GS from what I want in the end for HP/TQ numbers when I will also have to sacrifice a new car warranty.

I always did like the Z06

Doug
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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FWIW Edelbrock will offer an optional extended drivetrain warranty with the LS3 E-Force.

I haven't seen the provisions yet for the LS3 but here is a link to the Ford version... http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...ranty_Form.pdf
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Old Jan 24, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by knkali
glad there is no LS2 version so I do not have any temptation
LS2 kit is in the works according to the edelbrock guys at SEMA.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 71'AirStrike
they do..


the real big question is...

on the 599HP kit comes with the z06 in tank fuel pump, smaller pulley and matching diablo tuner.

...why not use a BAP on the smaller pulley package instead of a Z06 pump?

My complete WAG is the C6 in tank pump cannot handel the extra demand for gas on the increased boost. So they throw in a Z06 pump and call it good.

My guess is the 18Volts will shorten the pumps life span, lead to its failure and may cause the engine to pop (this is my interpation only).
Exactly. Vic Edelbrock stated in an interview that increasing the voltage of the fuel pump means decreasing its lifespan exponentially. I, for one, am glad that they cut no corners reliability-wise.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 02:45 PM
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Looks cool but just doesn't look like it gives you as much power as some of the more proven systems out there.........but we will see once someone actually gets one.
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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it says the two versions 550 and 599 "FLYWHEEL" horsepower? thats kinda low compared to other supercharger/blowers that give that much at the rear wheel??
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nelsond003
it says the two versions 550 and 599 "FLYWHEEL" horsepower? thats kinda low compared to other supercharger/blowers that give that much at the rear wheel??
I have not seen any boost figures yet for the 2 Corvette kits, but I think they are both low boost setups with reliability as a primary goal. Anybody read boost numbers quoted by Edelbrock?

I also think Edelbrock is being very conservative with their tune and their numbers. It is basically a TVS2300, and I expect similar numbers from it given same boost level, etc. I have seen the cut-away of the intake manifold, and it is a good looking product. If anything I think it might end up being more efficient than the Magnuson TVS2300. I guess we'll see. This is the setup I'll be watching. Edelbrock has always made very high quality parts, and not having to change the hood is a big plus.

This is what I see going for it:

fits under stock hood (saving $1k or so)

competitive pricing

very reputable company that will be around for support

front driven blower (no jack shaft/rear belt to slip)

CARB legal


I want to see what this thing can do on a modified LS3 with 8-10 psi. Hopefully we will see these things in action soon. Release date was supposed to be this Wednesday. I don't see why this blower couldn't make big power with the right injectors, pulley and tune.

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Originally Posted by nelsond003
it says the two versions 550 and 599 "FLYWHEEL" horsepower? thats kinda low compared to other supercharger/blowers that give that much at the rear wheel??
..is it really? That low eh?
599 HP at the FLYWHEEL comes out to (10% drive train loss) 540HP at the rear wheels


lets look at Lingenfelter

TVS2300 w/BAP



.. about the same eh?
That is because that is a TVS2300 on a BONE STOCK LS3. Just like the E-Force units being showed.

Has lingenfelter/Magna Charger/KB produced much more HP on customers cars? YES

but they did it by adding headers, cam, meth, more presice tune, and a few hamsters running on the wheels.

I bet if one were to do the same to an E-Force unit (headers, cam, meth, and a hamster) we would see an increase in RWHP too.


Im not saying that the E-Force is going to be the 'King of the hill" by beating out al the other PD S/C.

My point is that they are damm close and add on the "Install it and forget it" style of Kit they are marketing.
they will have my business*


*when I get the money, and if this does not turn out to be another Techno debacle.
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the real trick here is which FI system [Edelbrock, Magnuson, Paxton, STS, etc.] will provide the most power with the least amount of boost. think efficiency of the total package.
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Originally Posted by Streetk14
I have not seen any boost figures yet for the 2 Corvette kits, but I think they are both low boost setups with reliability as a primary goal. Anybody read boost numbers quoted by Edelbrock?

Andy
I think I heard Edelbrock say on one of the videos "599 hp at 5lbs of boost", but not 100% sure.
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