Damn. Mods gone bad.

 

A water failed bearing doesn't always show a failure right away. However, it can cause problems down the road. Looking at the bearings will show if there was water contamination.

Hopefully someone was smart enough to pull more than one bearing and save them for proof.

The parties involved seem more concerned with pointing fingers than actually finding the root cause of the failure.

Low oil pressure was a symptom of the failure, not the cause.

Seems like some could use a few anger management classes.

 

 

hmmmmm I have killed 4 engines (off-road racing) due to sucking in water, and what you just said is completely wrong, if you get the water out of the cylinders and that’s it, generally they will last another 10-50 hours on the watery oil (had to finish the race ).... that is if the rods and valves aren't bent. I also took those said motors apart myself to re-build and guess what? There was water in the oil on all 4.... It doesn't take very much, or very long to compromise the oil's lubrication values.

No rings seal perfectly, and definitely not when they are trying to compress water until the engine seizes. Water in the oil would almost certainly let your bearings live for a little while though.... haha just like what you describe. It can also over stress the bearings making them a little flatter in one spot, while this is unlikely, it can happen.

Is this what happened to you? bah, who knows. It sounds likely to me though.

Who am I though, just a ME with lots of this exact experience... Your going to be a lawyer....

If I was you I would *cough* "Cowboy up" and understand sucking in water until a engine dies generally causes a lot more harm then one would imagine.

Best of luck getting it sorted out. If I was your mechanic I would definetly change your tail light oil also, it would cost a lot, but if water got in there you car could explode at any moment.

 

It was a milodon windage tray, and it was a pos. Bad batch or poor design. We replaced it with Canton and the engine runs fine now and that was 7 years ago. If I would've ran it to redline the engine would've failed during this issue. Did the OP beat on the engine feeling the new cam and not notice the lower oil pressure? This was a larger journal pontiac which would require more oil pressure to stay alive than an LS3.

I think it's very likely he did. I also think there was prior damage due to the submarine duty it did and the damage was accelerated by running it hard to feel that cam.

Take the emotion out of it and look at it logically. You need to do this, it's your baby now.

 

so u mean to tell me that all these head gaskets mechanics do and all those intake leaks that allow water to enter the oiling system should all have motors huh. well man u solved everyones problems need a tune up put a motor. have a busted head gasket put a motor, have a blowout put a motor. You people are funny. i promise yall if you were in OP position you would bitch to. no one here woiuld allow that shop to do what they did. but hey your not in his shoes are you. and i never said i was going to be lawyer. I love my job. Like i said before if any of you people were in this kids shoes u would cry like bitches simple. u would go after the shop that caused the damage and thats the truth. If it was you it would be there fault. lol nbut its not u so be happy.

 

and the only reason there is emotion is because i hate being called a liar. I am an honest person and gek was saying ima clean this kids pocket milking this for all its worth thats not how i do business. I treat people right and fair. I dont try and get rich off one job i like repeat customers. I will be tearing into the car tomorrow and i will find the failure. I will post pics and call it like i see it.

 

This has been a learning experience……. Never take your car to someone who can’t buff a cars paint right.

 

fellas,,, this thread is making things worse not better. Its hard to say what you mean in type sometimes and cooler heads usually prevail when they are "face to face" or even on the phone.
Get yourselves on a conference call for all involved parties. No reason to get even more upset then you already are. Good luck with the issue. Paul

 

Shocking. Unheard of. Mods going bad. Almost as rare as an LS7 blowing up.

 

The dealership screwed you. You got a couple dollars (BTW... what are you doing modding a car if you can't afford to have it fixed?) and had a cam put in. The car died, and now some shop is here to save the day (one that nobody has heard of, but is the "best in the area!!11!@!").

I would pay to have your car fixed myself if I honestly felt Gectek did you wrong. He's not that kind of person, and has also been there on countless cam installs with me. You know how many he's screwed up? Zero. I honestly (not just because I know the guy) believe you are pointing the finger at the wrong person.

Oh, and sorry that you have to get a real job now. Welcome to the real world!!

 

IF my car suffered from a catastrophic failure three days before a cam swap. I think i would reschedule for anothr day.Just to be safe and to put miles on the car.......................That goes to both the car owner & cam installer.

 

If you can prove you had hydrolock damage you have a claim on your comprehensive insurance. That is probably your best avenue to pursue.

 

You don’t think my father has the money to have the car fixed? That a funny one....... and hey some might call it daddy’s car but if any of you where given a car like that by your father you wouldn’t turn it down. I am not a spoiled kid either I have worked hard in school. I have had scholarships to Texas Tech classes for engineering. I don’t see how you can comment on my father’s financial ability to pay for the car to be fixed, but I am taking responsibility for the car and will be paying for the repairs out of my pocket.

 

2000 miles where put on the car and it wasent three days more like 2 weeks.

 

Much more common than LS7s "blowing up".

About Rule292
Mods
None yet other than the famous Leres CAGS fuse


Your profile indicates that you are being "cautious" too.

Whats the matter??? Skeered???? Who can blame you after a saga like this one? I think you'll be OK with just that fuse though.

 

And never attempt to use your corvette as a submarine, particularly if you install a vararam, which only requires a puddle to cause massive damage.

And never modify an expensive car if you can't afford too.

 

Sweet. My brother had a scholarship at Texas Tech for computer science. He's making the big dollars now!

 

Well as stated earlier. JMHO, But a hydro-lock situation should have called for a long block. So, somebody (car owner) should have fought for this. But probably didn't know better. Times must be really tuff for........