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Safety Car
The "Beta tester" guy is a Navtool dupe account, I can guarantee you that as they had 2 dupes caught on the Acura forums too.
Also, think about this.. Why would his picture of the Navtool "completely working in his car" end up being photographed while sitting on the floormat?
Most likely he just had a unit with plugs coming out of the back of it going NOWHERE.. Just to show that he "has a working unit". Such an obvious fraud.
Also, think about this.. Why would his picture of the Navtool "completely working in his car" end up being photographed while sitting on the floormat?
Most likely he just had a unit with plugs coming out of the back of it going NOWHERE.. Just to show that he "has a working unit". Such an obvious fraud.
I've been trading PM's with Ron A over in the Acura site. I happed to notice the 2 shills in that thread over there. When something similar was seen here the Mod addressed it. They actually used the same name on both forums just changed the end of the username. Not smart.
Don't be hard on savewave. There is a lot going on behind the scencs and savewave is certainly looking out for our users.
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I am supposed to get tracking info today. Still waiting. Curious-Are numbers 1 to 5 still around? Norm
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I received a message that I should get a tracking number on Friday.
I am #19 on the list.
Elmer
I am #19 on the list.
Elmer
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Today is Friday.
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I have traded PM's with most site Admins that NavTool was a vendor on. Almost all have pulled their account due to overwhelming issues with them and their total lack of meaningful communications,outright lies and poor customer treatment. All of the above are FACTS.
While this is pure speculation on my part here are my thoughts. NavTool is probably a company of 1-3 employees. They may have been bigger years ago. This may be why they keep hanging their hats on previous success. My guess is there are a couple of guys sitting in mom's basement trying to put these together as fast as they can. I'm thinking he may have had design and testing issues and possibly even parts issues.
That said, there was a lot of lying and making up multiple accounts and posting false information on multiple threads. Almost all have been deleted and you will never see them. I don't think he has anywhere near 300 pre orders he claims to have. My guess is maybe 50 are left on the original list. Their spokesman/owner seems uneducated and has no mastery of the English language. He is also VERY bad at answering question because he does not want you to know the truth. He is also extremely unprofessional and acts like a 15 year old stomping his feet when he does not like the fact that someone has the audacity to ask a real question. Again, speculation on my part but I believe you guys funded his development of this product which was pure vaporware before he collected all your money.
Even though I'm speculating again, I do think everyone left on the preorder list will get their unit. It will probably work well and many will be happy. I just wouldn't hold my breath for an end of March delivery.
I would never deal with Sammy/George/Vaitaly due to the way this whole debacle was handled. There are also now reports that they are fighting deputes with credit card companies even though your money was supposed to be 100% refundable.
Also note that I got about 50 rude, obnoxious PM's from NavTool before I put them on my "Ignore list".
Good luck folks. I hope your experience is better than mine was.
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Subject: RE: Shipment Tracking numbers
Shipping department is creating labels as we speak, and will be adding tracking number to the system
Thank You
Vitaliy Sokolov
NavTool Inc.
Shipping department is creating labels as we speak, and will be adding tracking number to the system
Thank You
Vitaliy Sokolov
NavTool Inc.
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Elmer
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I'm gonna withhold a statement I was about to make...creating shipping labels, huh? That should be instantaneous, with a tracking number...unless they have a dot matrix printer. Come on NavFools, this is 2016, not 1984. That excuse don't work!
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I just got the same email. I told him last night I was going to cancel this week without shipping and tracking info
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From: NavTool Vitaliy Sokolov
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:52 PM
To: Elmer Boggs
Subject: RE: Shipment Tracking numbers
You will receive it today, they are creating 300 orders in no specific order
From: Elmer Boggs
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:51 PM
To: NavTool Vitaliy Sokolov>
Subject: RE: Shipment Tracking numbers
What happened? Where’s the tracking numbers? What the hell is going on?
Elmer
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:52 PM
To: Elmer Boggs
Subject: RE: Shipment Tracking numbers
You will receive it today, they are creating 300 orders in no specific order
From: Elmer Boggs
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 6:51 PM
To: NavTool Vitaliy Sokolov>
Subject: RE: Shipment Tracking numbers
What happened? Where’s the tracking numbers? What the hell is going on?
Elmer
Looks like slow but still being promised.