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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Card
In which case I predict a huge number of sales will be lost. How are you going to go on a road trip with adequate luggage in a mid engined car?
You don't know the C8 is mid engine only?
You don't know the dimensions, or the storage capacity, yet dropping the front engine layout is a sales failure?

Please take the other trolls with you, and may the door hit you on the way out.




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As soon as the first mid-engine Corvette comes off the line at Bowling Green, the only future the front-engine Corvette has is as a used car.


Used, with terrible resale value.


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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 11:40 PM
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This thread is useless. They have already announced the end of production of the C7 and given a date for when it will stop and the plans to auction that car for charity...

That's a pretty clear answer to this thread.

...and I'm 50 and don't golf. By many accounts, GM is trying to appeal to a younger demographic and not just Geezers. Younger buyers probably won't care about golf clubs and if the car is as good as they think they will also not care of a bunch of Geezers are buying the C8 because they will have been successful in attracting that younger demographic.

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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CSevenGS
This thread is useless. They have already announced the end of production of the C7 and given a date for when it will stop and the plans to auction that car for charity...
No, they announced when the rights to that car would be auctioned, but said it would be built later. That is not the same thing as announcing the end of production.
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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Card
Will Gm continue to offer a front engined corvette? The majority of Corvette owners are not boy racers and do not take part in track days. We want a sports car suitable for touring with good luggage capacity like the C7 coupe.
Yes. It’s called the Camaro SS.
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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 01:18 AM
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Yes. It’s called the Camaro SS.

Agreed.
But, the failure that the 6th Gen Camaro is needs to be 100% redesigned, with real world visibility, and a interior with a back seat and trunk that you can actually use. Like a ATS-V Coupe.
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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 06:59 AM
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No, they announced when the rights to that car would be auctioned, but said it would be built later. That is not the same thing as announcing the end of production.
Nitpick much?...the Irony of your reply being wrong is hilarious. They actually did announce the end of production...just not the exact date. When they announce "the last" of something, that means no more of them...

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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 06:59 AM
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dude dont worry... here you go problem solved LOL!

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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CSevenGS
...and I'm 50 and don't golf. By many accounts, GM is trying to appeal to a younger demographic and not just Geezers. Younger buyers probably won't care about golf clubs and if the car is as good as they think they will also not care of a bunch of Geezers are buying the C8 because they will have been successful in attracting that younger demographic.
If GM's sole goal is to appeal to a younger demographic (and at 50, which makes you a little older than me, you are not the target "younger demographic") and still sell 30,000 C8's per year - it will be a losing effort because that mystical "younger demographic" of people ages 30-45 of decent financial means buying any 2-seat sports car doesn't really exist except in the world of 50-65 year old white male marketing guru's. That demographic is the group, which after going to college and grad school have settled into a lifestyle where at a significantly older age than the Silent, Greatest, Baby Boomer and even to some extent Gen x generations are now buying houses and having kids, 95% of which can't afford to have a $70,000 toy that can't be used to taxi the kids, their kids friends and their stuff around or to run to Home Depot or Costco/BJ's; and of the remaining 5% who could afford the toy, 4.8% could care less about owning a sports car. The market for the C8, is just like the C7, C6 & C5 or the Porsche 718 & 911, Miata, Supra, BMW Z4, etc - people who are very successful and can afford the sports car as an extra vehicle or those of somewhat more modest means whose kids are grown such that the sports car can be used as a daily driver (from Gen X (born 1965-1982) on, that group will consist of people who are almost exclusively over 50, and may who are 60 or older).
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I'm 37 with a kid and buying new. Will be 38. Would rather have his than spend $50K on a new truck.

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Originally Posted by Geoffrey Card
Will Gm continue to offer a front engined corvette? The majority of Corvette owners are not boy racers and do not take part in track days. We want a sports car suitable for touring with good luggage capacity like the C7 coupe.
Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
I believe it has been said before that Tadge and team claimed to have solved the storage issue for mid engine sports car.
Originally Posted by Sub Driver
There will likely be storage in both the front and the back. Maybe you should look at the various mid-engine options and their storage capacity (e.g. NSX).
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It is rumored that the C8 will have more storage capacity than is typical in a mid engine car. There is no reason to worry until we see the final product.
Its has long been speculated that the C8 HT Version at least could have a top lowering mechanism similar to the Chevy SSR. Chaz’s latest video puts in action that technique and should be well considered. And with that possibility is that probability of even more storage space added to that of the frunk + trunk. But probably only available with the hard top up or maybe that issue has been solved too. For the Targa Top C8, it could also have that storage space for a vertical placement of the top removed. Bottom line, possibly even more storage capacity than any C7!

Chaz has given us a remarkable video illustrating this in motion.



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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 08:33 AM
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Will the C8 have room for a wheelchair holder? Toupe storage?
Inquiring minds need to know. Thanks.

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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 09:15 AM
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dude dont worry... here you go problem solved LOL!


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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 09:57 AM
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Old Jun 6, 2019 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CSevenGS
Nitpick much?...the Irony of your reply being wrong is hilarious. They actually did announce the end of production...just not the exact date. When they announce "the last" of something, that means no more of them...
No, that is not nitpicking. It is being something called "accurate".

You even contradict yourself. Your previous post:
"They have already announced the end of production of the C7 and given a date for when it will stop and the plans to auction that car for charity"
So.. what's the date that production will stop? Not the date the last Z06 will be auctioned, but the date production of C7s completely stops?

You stated something as fact, but I'd bet a large sum of money that as of this exact second you can't actually prove that statement.
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Originally Posted by Shaka
Seriously.

For those worrying about talking half their house with them on a "weekend get away" this is the best answer.
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Let's see, I'm going on a trip. Do I have my credit card, yep. Do I have my Glock, yep. Do I have some tunes, yep. OK, ready to go
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
No, that is not nitpicking. It is being something called "accurate".

You even contradict yourself. Your previous post:
"They have already announced the end of production of the C7 and given a date for when it will stop and the plans to auction that car for charity"
So.. what's the date that production will stop? Not the date the last Z06 will be auctioned, but the date production of C7s completely stops?

You stated something as fact, but I'd bet a large sum of money that as of this exact second you can't actually prove that statement.
All that gum bumping to restate your nitpick...great job. The point is its stopping, has been announced and new C7s will be no more.

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I think there will be adequate luggage space in the C8 and it'll be more than other ME cars in comparison. It won't have the space in a big continuous form like the C7 trunk space though which allows you to put a lot of wider and longer items. I'm excited to see the C8 ME but also wouldn't mind a FE spin of it down the line, slim chance, I know.

To OP, if you like the FE and luggage space, keep your C7 if you already have one or buy one at a good discount now. It's still a very good sports car and I believe will still look good for years to come.

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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by firstvettesoon
I believe it has been said before that Tadge and team claimed to have solved the storage issue for mid engine sports car.

He has also said that the front engine platform has reached its pinnacle for performance with the C7Zr1. That they could not push beyond the performance of that car on that platform which is why they went to mid engine
And Tadge has never been wrong... It seems whenever he makes a claim one has better stop listening.

Didn't he state something similar before the C7ZR1 was revealed? About the Z06 being as far as a FE corvette could be taken?

As for the C7 platform, he may be right. Maybe they can't take that further under his leadership. But a FE platform can still be vastly improved from that reference point as I am certain will be proven by Ferrari et al.
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