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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 06:22 AM
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Maybe Mary hired the second shift to caddy for the C8 owners who will need help with their golf bags?
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by PerKr
And Tadge has never been wrong... It seems whenever he makes a claim one has better stop listening.

Didn't he state something similar before the C7ZR1 was revealed? About the Z06 being as far as a FE corvette could be taken?

As for the C7 platform, he may be right. Maybe they can't take that further under his leadership. But a FE platform can still be vastly improved from that reference point as I am certain will be proven by Ferrari et al.

He also made the statement at the Detroit show in 2013 that the C7 would be available in a right hand drive model, to a group of auto journalist from Australia.

The very next say, the number 2 man at GM had to issue a statement saying the C7 would not be available in RHD.

The AMG GT R Pro is quite indicative of how far the front engine sports car can be taken(7:04 at Nürburgring) with a measly 577 HP. And AMG hasn't even released the AMG GT R Black Series yet.

I don't understand why some people believe that front engine sports cars are only good for drag racing on a straight track, and if you want to turn corners, you MUST have a mid engine car.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 08:00 AM
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In which case I predict a huge number of sales will be lost. How are you going to go on a road trip with adequate luggage in a mid engined car?
loss of sales I bet not
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 10:17 AM
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Maybe if they say it 3 times and click their heels they're wish will come true.

There will be an FE There will be an FE There will be an FE




Hahahahaha NOPE
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon2kZ
Maybe if they say it 3 times and click their heels they're wish will come true.

There will be an FE There will be an FE There will be an FE




Hahahahaha NOPE
Interesting someone took the time to make that. Does nothing to excite me. More of the same... car has been basically the same since 1997... very good, but basically the same car C5/6/7.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 10:32 AM
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This is from the Ferrari website about their 812 Superfast, front engine rear transmission. Don’t think that the FE as a design is no longer viable. There is always the possibility of another FE Vette but it would be several years in the future.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Interesting someone took the time to make that. Does nothing to excite me. More of the same... car has been basically the same since 1997... very good, but basically the same car C5/6/7.
You must not have driven a C5, C6, or C7 if you think you can say they are all the same car.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by WKM
You must not have driven a C5, C6, or C7 if you think you can say they are all the same car.
I have and I've taken the C5 and C7 almost completely apart... they are the same car structurally. Same general frame layout/shape/designe. Same suspension layout and design, same general motors (haha pun) i.e pushrod OHV V8. Think of C5/6/7 as continuous refinement of the original 1997 C5.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 10:45 AM
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Here's my point stating the C5/6/7 are all continuous improvement of the same car...


C5

C6

C6 Z06

C6 ZR1

C7
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CSevenGS
All that gum bumping to restate your nitpick...great job. The point is its stopping, has been announced and new C7s will be no more.
And yet you can't back up your original statement. How telling.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jon2kZ
Maybe if they say it 3 times and click their heels they're wish will come true.

There will be an FE There will be an FE There will be an FE




Hahahahaha NOPE
Amazing that someone took the time, but that's actually a pretty good looking car I think. Not saying I think it is coming, but that's a step in the right direction for a FE car.

As pointed out, I think Tadge's comment about the C7 being as far as they can take FE performance is really more a sign of his leadership and vision than anything else.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom73
This is from the Ferrari website about their 812 Superfast, front engine rear transmission. Don’t think that the FE as a design is no longer viable. There is always the possibility of another FE Vette but it would be several years in the future.
Where exactly did anyone say "FE as a design is no longer viable"? Now you're just being silly. The only thing people are saying is "there will be no FE Corvette C8". That doesn't mean FE cars are bad or outdated. It means there won't be one for the C8. GM has said there will be ONE Corvette model only. And they apparently say that the only way to move the platform forward in terms of performance is to go ME. Which they are doing.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
As pointed out, I think Tadge's comment about the C7 being as far as they can take FE performance is really more a sign of his leadership and vision than anything else.
He clearly wants the chance at being the man to do the ME Corvette... but, in his defense, there's not much left they can do performance wise with the FE car... the ZR1 is the king of the hill.

They can't put any more power down through the rear wheels. Which means AWD. Packacing electric front drive and battery packs in the FE platform is far more difficult than the rear ME platform. Basically there's no point in going any further with the FE as anything done there would be more effective in the ME configuration.

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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 11:33 AM
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^Oh I get it.. and I think the Corvette should have gone ME along about C4/C5 timeframe. I think they could still improve on the FE's abilities, it would involve moving weight further back of course, and obviously the engine is the single biggest source of weight.

ME is an "easy fix", but my point, his statement is a bit over-dramatic.

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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by vndkshn
ME is an "easy fix", but my point, his statement is a bit over-dramatic.
Becaue that's Tadge... the career party man (party as in communist politics).

"The C6 is obsolete"

"There is no need for more than 6 gears with a torquey V8" (denying the 8 speed was coming)

"We can't do anything more with the FE platform"

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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 11:57 AM
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Maybe I have missed it but has GM officially came out and said the C8 will be mid-engine and not the traditional front engine? The only thing I have seen/heard is that C7 production will be ending on July 23, 2019 and that the C8 will be revealed on 7-8-19, nothing about engine placement or engine size. And I get that all the pictures appear to have the dimensions and looks to be mid engined, but have there been any photos that show the actual engine behind the driver?
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by born2beS12
Maybe I have missed it but has GM officially came out and said the C8 will be mid-engine and not the traditional front engine? The only thing I have seen/heard is that C7 production will be ending on July 23, 2019 and that the C8 will be revealed on 7-8-19, nothing about engine placement or engine size. And I get that all the pictures appear to have the dimensions and looks to be mid engined, but have there been any photos that show the actual engine behind the driver?
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 12:28 PM
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Will Gm continue to offer a front engined corvette? The majority of Corvette owners are not boy racers and do not take part in track days. We want a sports car suitable for touring with good luggage capacity like the C7 coupe.
We've been over this countless times in previous threads. Yes, the C7 has good storage. It's a hatchback, just like a Ford Pinto. Of course it does. But you're spoiled. You can carry the kitchen sink and the family dog if you want. Or you can learn to be more frugal in your packing habits. We've been 23,000 miles with a couple of small duffel bags in a convertible. That's all you really need. And with the C8 you'll have a trunk and a frunk. If you can't make do with that, it's your problem, but I doubt most of us will find that a hindrance. You really don't speak for the "majority"of Corvette owners.
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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 12:31 PM
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The FE is dead, get over it.

Which part of "you can be the first to know about the first-ever mid-engine Corvette" is hard to understand?

Don't like the ME buy a Camaro.

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Old Jun 7, 2019 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tool Hoarder
Thank you, I figured I had missed an official announcement amongs all the speculation and theory post of what GM "should do" or "what they are gonna do" from random people that saw a post about a post about a magazine article written about a picture taken by some person with a camera phone.
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