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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 09:24 AM
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You can add me to the list of engine failures. VIN 652. Engine was starting rough in November. In December one day it wouldn’t turn over. Had it towed to the dealership, they tore it down, claimed there was scoring in multiple cylinders, and replaced the whole engine (took until March). Got the car back and within a week the transmission was throwing temperature warnings in 50 degree weather driving 35 min on a local highway. Now waiting for a new transmission.

My Z has been in the shop for almost 6 months now. Was around 9k miles on it when the engine failed.
Very, very sad to hear. Sounds like lemon law material.
There is sooo much to love about the C8Z, (my 6th C)- it's definitely a music machine beyond compare!
But, there is no excuse for failures like what you are describing, especially @ this price level.
Just like BT described, I grew up going to my grandfather's garage on Saturdays when I was 12, pumping gas, changing oil & tires. We know what's going on here...
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 10:33 AM
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I wonder if LT6s will have the same Ti rod issues of the LS7 or if GM has figured that part out? I own both now
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GatorsJMC
Very, very sad to hear. Sounds like lemon law material.
There is sooo much to love about the C8Z, (my 6th C)- it's definitely a music machine beyond compare!
But, there is no excuse for failures like what you are describing, especially @ this price level.
Just like BT described, I grew up going to my grandfather's garage on Saturdays when I was 12, pumping gas, changing oil & tires. We know what's going on here...
I agree. If this was my car and given it is now awaiting a new DCT to go along with the new engine, I would definitely Lemon Law it; for resale value and for how long it’s been in the shop if nothing else.
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 03:08 PM
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I agree. If this was my car and given it is now awaiting a new DCT to go along with the new engine, I would definitely Lemon Law it; for resale value and for how long it’s been in the shop if nothing else.
I started those discussions with GM about 3 weeks ago. Im giving them another 2 weeks to provide some solutions before filing a formal lemon law with the state.
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Update on my ticking issue for anyone who is interested:

Dropped the car off at the dealer this AM. The service writer said that it'd be 5 - 7 days before anyone could even look at it.
"Are those calendar days or working days?"
"Calendar days, except for weekends."
"Mmmkayyy..... How about I drive it and you call me in 4 - 6 days when someone can look at it and I'll drop it off then?"
"No, sorry, you have to leave it here."
"Mmmmkayyyy.... Do you want to listen to it now?"
"No, we'll wait for the technician."
"OK, here's the fob."
"Thanks, I'll keep you posted."

So I waited in the room with the coffee and donuts for an hour or so until the shuttle driver got back an he took me home to my empty garage. I've had the car for less than a month and barely put 1000 miles on it. It's spent more time in one shop getting PPF and another in a shop getting ceramic paint protection than I have driving it. Oh, well, I'll quit whining now.....

Guy said they had three C8's in pieces right now waiting for parts. One has a blown up transmission, one stingray with a bad timing chain, and another with some other kind of problems he couldn't identify but the motor is hanging on a hoist. Problem is, they (all local dealers) are having a heck of a time getting good, trained techs to come to work, there's just way too much work and not enough qualified people. Walked around the service area while waiting for the shuttle, and ALL the bays are filled with cars and not enough people to work on 'em, or waiting on parts.

I'll just have to wait, I guess. At least I still have the C6 Z06 to drive. Like the old, warm out, overused saying goes, "It is what it is."
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Old Jun 6, 2024 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BenThere
Update on my ticking issue for anyone who is interested:

Dropped the car off at the dealer this AM. The service writer said that it'd be 5 - 7 days before anyone could even look at it.
"Are those calendar days or working days?"
"Calendar days, except for weekends."
"Mmmkayyy..... How about I drive it and you call me in 4 - 6 days when someone can look at it and I'll drop it off then?"
"No, sorry, you have to leave it here."
"Mmmmkayyyy.... Do you want to listen to it now?"
"No, we'll wait for the technician."
"OK, here's the fob."
"Thanks, I'll keep you posted."

So I waited in the room with the coffee and donuts for an hour or so until the shuttle driver got back an he took me home to my empty garage. I've had the car for less than a month and barely put 1000 miles on it. It's spent more time in one shop getting PPF and another in a shop getting ceramic paint protection than I have driving it. Oh, well, I'll quit whining now.....

Guy said they had three C8's in pieces right now waiting for parts. One has a blown up transmission, one stingray with a bad timing chain, and another with some other kind of problems he couldn't identify but the motor is hanging on a hoist. Problem is, they (all local dealers) are having a heck of a time getting good, trained techs to come to work, there's just way too much work and not enough qualified people. Walked around the service area while waiting for the shuttle, and ALL the bays are filled with cars and not enough people to work on 'em, or waiting on parts.

I'll just have to wait, I guess. At least I still have the C6 Z06 to drive. Like the old, warm out, overused saying goes, "It is what it is."
I would not be happy with leaving my car there if it is still in drivable condition.

Are they at least keeping it inside and secure?
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Old Jun 7, 2024 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by chevyrules727
I would not be happy with leaving my car there if it is still in drivable condition.

Are they at least keeping it inside and secure?
Yeah, they promised to keep it inside. A check on the car locator with my MyChevrolet app map confirmed it for last night at least.

The service writer called me this AM, which was nice and I let him know I appreciated it, to tell me they took a quick listen and read the TSB. Still not ready to do a serious diagnosis, but said that the TSB says that if it's the infamous issue addressed by the TSB, and if it's on the left side, it's about a 12 hour job in the car. If it's on the right, the motor has to come out . I'm pretty sure it's on the left. It'll be later next week at the earliest they can get at it. So, I;m still driving the C6Z.

As long as I'm on a typing roll, I gotta say that I still love the C6. What a difference; the C6 has a, like, clutch pedal, a real manual 6 speed, and - gauges! As in, real, honest to Gawd analog gauges with needles and stuff! What a great car to still drive and go back to something more "conventional" after the C8Z. And that LS7, what a beast when you start to really get it on. What am I doing, going down some sort of a nostalgia rat hole? Weird......
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Old Jun 7, 2024 | 02:04 PM
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Yeah, they promised to keep it inside. A check on the car locator with my MyChevrolet app map confirmed it for last night at least.

The service writer called me this AM, which was nice and I let him know I appreciated it, to tell me they took a quick listen and read the TSB. Still not ready to do a serious diagnosis, but said that the TSB says that if it's the infamous issue addressed by the TSB, and if it's on the left side, it's about a 12 hour job in the car. If it's on the right, the motor has to come out . I'm pretty sure it's on the left. It'll be later next week at the earliest they can get at it. So, I;m still driving the C6Z.

As long as I'm on a typing roll, I gotta say that I still love the C6. What a difference; the C6 has a, like, clutch pedal, a real manual 6 speed, and - gauges! As in, real, honest to Gawd analog gauges with needles and stuff! What a great car to still drive and go back to something more "conventional" after the C8Z. And that LS7, what a beast when you start to really get it on. What am I doing, going down some sort of a nostalgia rat hole? Weird......
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Old Jun 7, 2024 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RapidC84B
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Wonder what would the interior of the headlight shell look like w/ a darker shade in an accent color to the yellow? (body color within the lens cover area)
Just seems like a lot of yellow there.
Nice stable, BTW !
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Originally Posted by GatorsJMC
Wonder what would the interior of the headlight shell look like w/ a darker shade in an accent color to the yellow? (body color within the lens cover area)
Just seems like a lot of yellow there.
Nice stable, BTW !
At first I wanted black headlights, but I’ve grown to enjoy the yellow ones.
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Originally Posted by BenThere
Update on my ticking issue for anyone who is interested:

Dropped the car off at the dealer this AM. The service writer said that it'd be 5 - 7 days before anyone could even look at it.
"Are those calendar days or working days?"
"Calendar days, except for weekends."
"Mmmkayyy..... How about I drive it and you call me in 4 - 6 days when someone can look at it and I'll drop it off then?"
"No, sorry, you have to leave it here."
"Mmmmkayyyy.... Do you want to listen to it now?"
"No, we'll wait for the technician."
"OK, here's the fob."
"Thanks, I'll keep you posted."

So I waited in the room with the coffee and donuts for an hour or so until the shuttle driver got back an he took me home to my empty garage. I've had the car for less than a month and barely put 1000 miles on it. It's spent more time in one shop getting PPF and another in a shop getting ceramic paint protection than I have driving it. Oh, well, I'll quit whining now.....

Guy said they had three C8's in pieces right now waiting for parts. One has a blown up transmission, one stingray with a bad timing chain, and another with some other kind of problems he couldn't identify but the motor is hanging on a hoist. Problem is, they (all local dealers) are having a heck of a time getting good, trained techs to come to work, there's just way too much work and not enough qualified people. Walked around the service area while waiting for the shuttle, and ALL the bays are filled with cars and not enough people to work on 'em, or waiting on parts.

I'll just have to wait, I guess. At least I still have the C6 Z06 to drive. Like the old, warm out, overused saying goes, "It is what it is."
I live in a town with an extremely small Chevrolet Corvette dealership. They actually scheduled a time for a technician. To do a pico meter test to identify where the tick exactly was. That way my car wouldn’t be sitting there forever to get it looked at. What they’re telling you is a bunch of bull. If they are not competent to do a pico test, then they need to bring in a service technician from GM like they did at my shop. They have those technicians floating all over the place from what I understand that help identify things like this. We scheduled it for a certain time and day and he came and did the test and then I took the car home. Then we talked about which way to go forward, ordered the parts and scheduled him to come back and do it in a little over a day with a Corvette technician that has never touched a Z06 before. Quick question, is your Corvette convertible and do you think the noises more on the driver side or passenger side. If it’s on the driver side, please send me a PM and I have some good advice on how to go forward.
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I live in a town with an extremely small Chevrolet Corvette dealership. They actually scheduled a time for a technician. To do a pico meter test to identify where the tick exactly was. That way my car wouldn’t be sitting there forever to get it looked at. What they’re telling you is a bunch of bull. If they are not competent to do a pico test, then they need to bring in a service technician from GM like they did at my shop. They have those technicians floating all over the place from what I understand that help identify things like this. We scheduled it for a certain time and day and he came and did the test and then I took the car home. Then we talked about which way to go forward, ordered the parts and scheduled him to come back and do it in a little over a day with a Corvette technician that has never touched a Z06 before. Quick question, is your Corvette convertible and do you think the noises more on the driver side or passenger side. If it’s on the driver side, please send me a PM and I have some good advice on how to go forward.
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Update on my "ticking" issue.

The motor's gotta come out. Damn.

Got a call from the Service Writer today, and he dropped the bad news. Said they did the pico thing and found the source of the noise is on the, as Derrick at Vice Grip Garage calls it, the "drinker side" (guess my stethoscope inspection isn't as accurate as a pico test.....).. So they gotta drop the engine. Parts on order, gonna be about a week.

I'm thrilled. Not. Between getting PPF and then having another shop do a complete ceramic paint protection (Cerakote), seems like the car's been a shop somewhere longer than I've been able to drive the damn thing.

Said this is not the first one of these they've fixed, and assure me they have a qualified Corvette technician to do the work, he's the guy that did the pico test. Talked about just driving the car without doing the fix, but that's not going to happen because now that they've identified the source of the ticking, they need to fix it to maintain the warranty; if something happens down the road, it'll be my problem due to "negligence" if they don't do the fix. I get it, and I'm OK with it, it needs to get done. He also advised that the 'fix" doesn't always completely eliminate the noise, but it will reduce it and the warranty remains in effect if something else happens. That's consistent with anecdotal experiences others have had as I've read here and other forums. I'm fine with that as well.

I have had experience with this dealer's service department with my C6Z, including them having to pull the LS7 for an oil pan gasket leak. The work was professional and you couldn't tell the motor had even been pulled except for the traces of wrench marks on the bolts and other connectors. We'll see how this goes, not much choice in the matter.

Stay tuned.....
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Sorry to hear that news. I hope motor number 2 runs stout for another 150K miles, and that you can't tell it was changed!
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Sorry to hear that news. I hope motor number 2 runs stout for another 150K miles, and that you can't tell it was changed!
They are not replacing the motor, they are adjusting the original motor to address the ticking sound.

Also I'm curious of the build date of @BenThere 's car, because in talking to one of the GM engineers at Carlisle last year, they introduced the pico test to the factory for late MY23 LT6 builds, so in theory any cars produced at/after that point should not have the ticking sound.
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Originally Posted by Car Junkie 24
They are not replacing the motor, they are adjusting the original motor to address the ticking sound.

Also I'm curious of the build date of @BenThere 's car, because in talking to one of the GM engineers at Carlisle last year, they introduced the pico test to the factory for late MY23 LT6 builds, so in theory any cars produced at/after that point should not have the ticking sound.
that’s a good question. Mine was built 1-26-24 and it had the tick
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Originally Posted by Car Junkie 24
They are not replacing the motor, they are adjusting the original motor to address the ticking sound.

Also I'm curious of the build date of @BenThere 's car, because in talking to one of the GM engineers at Carlisle last year, they introduced the pico test to the factory for late MY23 LT6 builds, so in theory any cars produced at/after that point should not have the ticking sound.
Well, if the car was here and not at the dealer, I could maybe check.......
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Just received a call from City Chevrolet to inform me that the oil leak I was in for was coming from a hole in the cylinder head......I think that's what he said. Anyway, they've ordered me a new engine. 2150-miles
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Just received a call from City Chevrolet to inform me that the oil leak I was in for was coming from a hole in the cylinder head......I think that's what he said. Anyway, they've ordered me a new engine. 2150-miles
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