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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 02:49 PM
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Just like they said the LS7 issue was a small batch of incorrectly machined heads for a limited model year (IIRC it was 2011) which we all know was false, they won't be saying crap about this.
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 05:47 PM
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Just like they said the LS7 issue was a small batch of incorrectly machined heads for a limited model year (IIRC it was 2011) which we all know was false, they won't be saying crap about this.
GM will not be forthcoming with factual information re: the DCT failures nor the LT6 failures. We can be pretty certain of that based on previous issues like the LS7. GM claimed it was a "select few from '08 - '11" cars repaired/replaced under warranty. They also claimed 100% of heads inspected 2011-2013, yet 2011-2013 LS7s still had the issues and had catastrophic failures, as did later Z28s with the LS7.

I was ridiculed when I said I wouldn't touch the LT6 in the first few model years, and looky there, already a handful of failures. I do feel bad for the owners, warranty or not, after dropping that much on the vehicle.
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 07:25 PM
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Imagine when an engine goes bad on one of those people who paid WAY over MSRP on a flipped Z06... $100K over MSRP + $50K for a new engine. $300K later on a $150K car.
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 08:30 PM
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 08:49 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^
476 miles - not something I want to see done to my new Z06. Anybody know this car and what the issue was?

Edit: On Friday (3/10) a poster said he was from a Chevy dealer and had a Z06 with a locked up motor at 181 miles. The post disappeared very quickly thereafter. Don't know if it was a troll, a repeat of a car previously reported, or if the poster thought better of providing the information based on his employment status.

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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 09:16 PM
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Was about to post that one… tech did a good job. But my OCD cringes at the thought of all those bolts being tightened via ugga-duggas and no actual torque specs.
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 09:28 PM
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After watching this video, what are the chances that 100% of all of those removed bolts get put back on the car?
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Old Mar 13, 2023 | 09:30 PM
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in the car maybe, on the car not so much.
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Originally Posted by mfain
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476 miles - not something I want to see done to my new Z06. Anybody know this car and what the issue was?

Edit: On Friday (3/10) a poster said he was from a Chevy dealer and had a Z06 with a locked up motor at 181 miles. The post disappeared very quickly thereafter. Don't know if it was a troll, a repeat of a car previously reported, or if the poster thought better of providing the information based on his employment status.
In the comment section someone said the engine had a strange noise and GM wanted to open it up and take a look. Don't quote me but I believe every failed engine has experienced some type of valve train failure, or a spun rod bearing. This poses the question that could there be some type of casting issue in the block or the heads causing an oiling issue. I have a feeling that poor break in procedure is not the culprit, if GM tests the engines at high mileage why are customer engines failing with very low miles.
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I am amazed at how cool the engine oil runs. In normal driving the oil barely gets to 150*. Once you get on it it gets up closer to 200*. but the tach redline quickly gets to 8600 RPM when the water temp is still ~150* and the oil barely over 100*. In the past I have always used 160*F oil temp. as a threshold to really get into the power.

One of the benefits of the DeWitts radiator I installed in my 09Z was the IOC which helped get the oil up to temperature in normal driving within 6 miles. The 2010 and earlier LS7s had an air/oil cooler that would not get the oil up to 160* on a 50 mile drive at 70 MPH on a 70* day.
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
I am amazed at how cool the engine oil runs. In normal driving the oil barely gets to 150*. Once you get on it it gets up closer to 200*. but the tach redline quickly gets to 8600 RPM when the water temp is still ~150* and the oil barely over 100*. In the past I have always used 160*F oil temp. as a threshold to really get into the power.

One of the benefits of the DeWitts radiator I installed in my 09Z was the IOC which helped get the oil up to temperature in normal driving within 6 miles. The 2010 and earlier LS7s had an air/oil cooler that would not get the oil up to 160* on a 50 mile drive at 70 MPH on a 70* day.
I believe the oil temp sensor is in the oil tank and not in the block, hence why it reads a lower temp.
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Old Mar 14, 2023 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AzDave47
I am amazed at how cool the engine oil runs. In normal driving the oil barely gets to 150*. Once you get on it it gets up closer to 200*. but the tach redline quickly gets to 8600 RPM when the water temp is still ~150* and the oil barely over 100*. In the past I have always used 160*F oil temp. as a threshold to really get into the power.

One of the benefits of the DeWitts radiator I installed in my 09Z was the IOC which helped get the oil up to temperature in normal driving within 6 miles. The 2010 and earlier LS7s had an air/oil cooler that would not get the oil up to 160* on a 50 mile drive at 70 MPH on a 70* day.
Did you notice in the engine replacement video that the oil temp was 198* with water temp around 200* when they were driving it at 35 mph after install? Of course it is impossible to tell how far (or hard) they had driven it prior to filming the dash.
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Old Mar 14, 2023 | 07:19 PM
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Not to be a downer - (I'm on the Z short list) - but another failure at 186 miles. Car at Hendrick Naples - GM delivered new engine in two days, which says a lot about their commitment to this project. I was hoping to get a 23, but maybe it's a silver lining that it will be a 24.

Let me also say, that when I was at the dealer I met a nice older gentleman who had a new HTC ZO7 with every option. Amplify orange, aero, carbon wheels, I literally mean that he speced every option there was. He got the car 2 weeks ago and has 1700 miles on it. Drove it straight from Ohio (where he bought it) to Florida to his summer home. He was there to check on an oil change and said the car was perfect and the best vette he has ever owned. I don't like to talk about money to people but he told me he got it a MSRP and window was around $176 if I recall correctly. He then said if people were charging $50K ADM, that after driving this car, he would have paid it knowing how good this car is.

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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 03:29 PM
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Got my car back from having the trans fixed due to a faulty solenoid. Glad it did not require a new trans!

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The motor oil leak was in fact a rear main seal. Car is back on the road and it seems to be running fine. Fingers crossed that she holds together for a little while and we have more videos to post soon from NCM on April 1st /2nd.
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So they had to yank out the 2nd motor and separate the trans to replace the rear main? Any feedback on if they have a fix for the excess crank pressure blowing out the rear mains yet?
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Old Mar 16, 2023 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by FL-355
Not to be a downer - (I'm on the Z short list) - but another failure at 186 miles. Car at Hendrick Naples - GM delivered new engine in two days, which says a lot about their commitment to this project
I read this as they have replacement engines on hand standing by........
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Originally Posted by Mitchell_B
I read this as they have replacement engines on hand standing by........
...........due to the fact that GM has only managed to produce 7.85 Z06s per work day over the last month. (from C8tracker.com Z06 dashboard)
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Now the video has been taken down by the publisher, someone didn't like what was being shown. Although many people said that Vette Titans was making up conspiracy theories, it would seem to me that he knows more than anyone here. He said this engine has problems and also said it had crank case pressure issues that will leak oil past the rear main seal. Looks like he was right on both accounts, only time will tell how far down the rabbit hole this goes. It has been eluded to before that the slow roll out is more than just supply chain issues.
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Originally Posted by RD-1
Now the video has been taken down by the publisher, someone didn't like what was being shown. Although many people said that Vette Titans was making up conspiracy theories, it would seem to me that he knows more than anyone here. He said this engine has problems and also said it had crank case pressure issues that will leak oil past the rear main seal. Looks like he was right on both accounts, only time will tell how far down the rabbit hole this goes. It has been eluded to before that the slow roll out is more than just supply chain issues.
This time GM won't be able to blame it on owners modifying the engine like they did with the LS7.
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