I think you're getting hung up on not getting a response so let's discuss it. Your first comment was about a Bad Request error message, which I believe had nothing to do with the slight update. No other member reported that issue. You also noted it was likely to be your end. So I'm not sure why you've been taking it personally, especially when it didn't appear a response from myself was required.

Please understand one can't realistically respond to every single member and every single comment. Nothing specific to CorvetteForum as you'll find feedback forms often have a note about not being able to respond to all comments received.

 

Just had the occassion to add attachments to an already posted post.

If your programmers could have made it any more convoluted I cannot imagine how they would have approached it. They need to be stood against the wall with blind folds and................. Well you get the idea...........

I'm in that 1% (or so you claim) that says GO BACK!!!!!!!!!!


Very likely that those not complaining about the alleged improvements are just readers and not those that have been regular consistent posters that now have their lives challenged to do the SAME old thing they have been doing for 10+ years but in a very less friendly way......................

 

If you want to see any improvement, you'll need to provide some detailed feedback as to the issue. Convoluted isn't quite enough. Also, the uploader that you likely used is pretty much the same uploader that was lunched years ago that allows drag-and-drop as well as specific placement inside a post where comments could be added before and after. It was received fairly well.

Nope, that's not what I claimed.

Really? Well this member has more posts and longer membership and isn't complaining!
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...post1597459115

Again, the fact is (in life) people are generally more likely to comment when they have something to complain about or have a problem. It does not give a realistic overview.

 

Yep. Change for the sake of change not improvement.........

 

OR, possibly they have simply taken the attitude "this is too complicated", and have moved on....

 

"leadfoot" what is "too complicated"?

I just found your post. Sorry, it got lost in all the comments. I don't understand your specific issue. Every single Windows computer that I've used in the past few decades has had the clipboard already part of the software allowing you to copy text and paste it elsewhere. Members copy/paste content frequently. I'm one of those members. This post is an example of that.

 

I did a test now and it worked, I was going to take an image to show you - will let you know if it happens again.

 

I'll address the "too complicated" issue by stating, for example, when I wanted to increase the font size, in the past, to emphasize a particular point, all I had to do was highlight the words, point and click on size 3, 4, or 5, and VOILA, the words were re-sized. From what I've seen, I cannot no longer do that. I have to type something in brackets and then type the words, then something else in brackets, to obtain the same result. I simply do not see how this is easier.

With respect to the clipboard thing, I may need to clarify something. I did run into that problem on other sites, after I had to buy a new laptop, last November. However, I didn't have that issue here, at CF, until the most recent update. In a previous post here, something that I had to click on, on my internet tools drop down, was pointed out to me, and that seems to have fixed it. But again, it didn't affect me here, until the "update" was put into place. HOWEVER, although I can now "cut and paste" replies from other responses into one large reply, it seems that I cannot take one reply, cut it, and then paste it in another reply, in front of the second post, like I could do before. It appears that I have to cut the second reply, and then "back paste it" into the first post that I want to also reply to. (not sure if I'm making my point clearly, here)

I hate to plead ignorance, but here's my dilemma....I'm "old", and computer, and computer technology was definitely NOT being taught in either my grade school, my high school, or for that matter, when I was in a community college. Commonly used computers weren't in place until I was in my 40s, and long into the workforce. By then, I hate to admit it, but I, and people like myself, were already WAY behind the curve. We learned what we needed to know, as well as a little more, on the job, basically being taught by the younger engineers that we worked with. I retired 10 years ago, so my "education" has become more "trial and error, self taught". And when sites change, it's difficult (and frustrating) to keep up. And when you ask other users for help, which they gladly provide, because they're usually far more proficient, the advice they give you, while correct, is frequently even more confusing.

That's why there is a level of frustration being experienced by at least SOME of us site members. Things worked for us, for quite some time, and now they don't....and at least to us, these changes don't seem logical.

 

Very likely that the changes being made by the programmers are logical to them but then they are "technicians" and in all likelihood do NOT think the same way that end users think and it's obvious that the management doesn't care about that. Just get the job done and to hell with non technicians/end users,

I programmed 40 years ago and saw that when I managed new programmers. They live in their own little world and don't care that the end user can't do things the way they program. I let more programmers than you can shake a stick go because they didn't consider the end user FIRST and FOREMOST. None of that type of thing goes on these days. You can't fire a person anymore because they are incompetent and insensitive to the end user. Sad state of affairs when programmers have a life time job and can't be terminated for just cause. Job security at its finest!!!

 

Well put!

Just as a suggestion, if a well patronized site is going to make a number of changes to the way their site operates, why not put out an "update directory", to explain the new changes, and explain to it's "customers" how to navigate through these changes??

 

Except some things are being thrown out that aren't quite accurate or even rational.

I always tell members that it's a good idea to read the Announcements, Stickies, the FAQ/Help Guide, and to simply take some time to browse around. There is a Testing Forum for those want to test features. There is no button that is going to delete your account, all your posts, or reset the server. There is no substitute for hands-on by taking some time to get a feel.

You mentioned the font size and it has been stated a few times but, again, that information probably got lost in the communication where people want to argue the change just to argue or want names to justify the changes, etc. The font size option was removed, but still supported through manual code, because the font size does not scale well with all devices. Therefore, the option was removed to help reduce usage. Some community-based sites don't even allow font size changes so CorvetteForum isn't doing anything drastically different by limiting that option.

 

Done in true liberal fashion. Take away from the many for the benefit of the few.

Tough nuggies to those that must use devices that don't properly support size. Maybe those that use such devices should go beat up the designers/manufacturers of their devices for such features. JMHO

 

I'm not taking it personal at all. **I really dislike how the web shows no emotion.

I was just getting a giggle out of how when I proposed the question and you read it nothing was said but when a second more senior member appeared with the same concern....


Rest assured I am well aware that you cannot reply to every single comment. You do however have the power to take this back to the way it was before. You know, when no one was in here complaining about the site and all. I personally love change. I make changes in field all the time. People like them most of the time because I survey or get feedback from the actual end user. When there are changes that they do not like, it is typically out of my hands.


Since not one single member can pop in to say "I was surveyed!!" or "Hey, did anyone else get this weird survey?". Then it appears that there was a disconnect and the changes should be reevaluated.

Why have some obscure survey anyhow?? Why not have open participation. Sample the masses and see what you get. That way you end up with answers from people who log into and use this site on a regular basis. Those are the people who might actually care if things are one way or another.

 

No emotions. Since you noted two different times about not getting a personal response it appeared to me you were taking it personal.

Once again, feedback, comments and questions are not limited to "here" as in CorvetteForum's Help or other sections. There's a support email address that is used daily by members to contact CorvetteForum. Internet Brands, our parent company, also has a contact form. Additionally, as I stated, there has been past surveys. In the past, there's been dedicated focus groups from participants who, at one time, expressed interest in being involved. You joined 2 years ago so you've missed a few years As for a member such as "leadfoot4", who has been here nearly two decades, I don't know. I don't run the surveys but I've seen and heard them across the network. Additionally, I see "leadfoot4" has "Receive Admin Emails" off. I'd have to check but that could be one reason right there.

The point is, you're only looking at this section and those who replied. You're looking at this one thread (or even more), that has less than 1% members posting, and coming to a conclusion that's based on an incomplete picture.

As I've said, I doubt a revert is on the table. This was no wild change. It may take some members longer than others to recognize the Bold button, for example, but these changes were made for reasons stated. The way CorvetteForum is being accessed is different than it was 10 years ago. The fact that it also brings an auto-save feature, so there's less likely to have lost a post due to an internet or cookie issue, which is something that is being overlooked under the claims that this had no improvement, was a feature that has been asked about for some time here and there by those who have lost a post due to the aforementioned.

What is more likely to be on the table is to consider reasonable feedback that improves upon the change.

 

This is the internet. I don't take anything personal.


You say that you want "reasonable" feedback yet you leave the ultimate reasonable fix off the table when it's what current active users want. Very conflicting statement if you ask me.


Maybe I am wrong about it all. Maybe there are a large number of users who actually wanted these changes but if there were, I would surely think they would have been crying out in the Help section here long before firing off emails.


I'll quit on it now. You know how myself and others feel about it. As far as anyone can see or prove, no one asked for these changes. Are they major? Nope. Can we adapt? Yep. Do we have to like it or agree with why it is happening? Hell no. It makes absolutely no sense. The only good that will come of this is not having to look at broken YT posts because users don't know how to post them. Everything else was a downgrade. Auto-save... Useless

 

I did find this interesting. Accepting defeat I was setting up my custom links and found this Easter egg. Maybe something you can get rid of or is this available for a reason?


Link to the section: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...anted-back-83/

 

 

Fixed it...…..

 

That might be because a revert is not "ultimate reasonable" fix. Especially considering the fact there has been no major issue uncovered, and can't be easily resolved, to make it remotely likely to consider reverting an upgrade that was meant to address issues. There are legit concerns to consider (i.e., having to open the Smilies list each time to post multiple smilies, the font size issue, etc.,) that could be considered in upcoming releases. But a full revert based on minor issues that could be addressed and improved upon is not "reasonable" but rather ridiculous.

That statement says a lot. While it may be useless to you, it's not useless to some who have lost content and did ask about it. Such as:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...sale-post.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-my-post.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-messages.html
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...t-deleted.html

Atleast you got the personal replies you were desperately wanting