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IB Staff
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 4
Looks like you have an extension in Firefox that may not be working correctly. We can't support software that alters the appearance or functionality of the site.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 237
From: Indianapolis IN
So at the end of the day are we going to have to keep this new awful setup or is there a chance that user preference will win over?
I sort of thought that gearing the site to meet the wants of the user to draw more of them in was the whole idea.
I sort of thought that gearing the site to meet the wants of the user to draw more of them in was the whole idea.
Team Owner
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 87,330
Likes: 1,589
From: Western NY
Yes, it appears that some of the initial "hubbub" over the changes has died down, HOWEVER that doesn't mean that we're happy with the changes...….having to manually type in a font size change, rather than just being able to highlight the word, and click on a different size. Yeah, that sure was an improvement.....
Racer
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 473
Likes: 54
From: Addison TX
This gets added to every post I make or PM I send. If I try to go back to edit and delete it than it just re-inserts again.
I have completely flushed my cache and browser history. This started after the last site update.
I'm using Google Chrome in Windows 10.
function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false|preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" || event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );
I have completely flushed my cache and browser history. This started after the last site update.
I'm using Google Chrome in Windows 10.
function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false|preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" || event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );
Last edited by IM4A2Z; Jun 26, 2018 at 10:37 AM.
IB Staff
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 4
This gets added to every post I make or PM I send. If I try to go back to edit and delete it than it just re-inserts again.
I have completely flushed my cache and browser history. This started after the last site update.
I'm using Google Chrome in Windows 10.
function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false|preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" || event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );
I have completely flushed my cache and browser history. This started after the last site update.
I'm using Google Chrome in Windows 10.
function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );function EnableRightClick( ) {
var elements = [ document, document.body, window ],
images = document.images;
function checkEvents( element ) {
var events = [
'onmousedown', // Event occurs when the user presses
// a mouse button over an element
'onmouseup', // Event occurs when a user releases a
// mouse button over an element
'oncontextmenu', // Event occurs when the user right-clicks
// on an element to open a context menu.
'onselectstart',
'oncopy', // Event occurs when the user copies content.
'oncut' // Event occurs when the user cuts content.
],
button = /\.button/gi,
regex = /[return\s?false|preventdefault]/gi;
/*
// Jquery
try {
var jbound = $( element ).data( "events" ),
len = Object.keys( jbound );
if( len ) {
console.dir( jbound );
//$( element ).unbind( );
}
} catch( e ) {
//
}
*/
for( var i = 0, len = events.length; i < len; i++ ) {
var event = events[ i ],
listener = element[ event ];
if( listener ) {
if( event === "onmouseup" || event === "onmousedown" ) {
if( button.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
} else {
if( regex.test( String( listener ) ) ) {
element[ event ] = null;
}
}
}
}
};
for( var i = 0, len = elements.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( elements[ i ] );
}
for( var i = 0, len = images.length; i < len; i++ ) {
checkEvents( images[ i ] );
}
}EnableRightClick( );
Racer
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 473
Likes: 54
From: Addison TX
Testing again in Chrome
Seems to be fixed.
I removed a "Right Click" extension add in to Chrome that evidently doesn't play well with the latest vBulletin update. Never had a problem in the past with it because I've been using it for well over a year.
Thanks for the help
Seems to be fixed.
I removed a "Right Click" extension add in to Chrome that evidently doesn't play well with the latest vBulletin update. Never had a problem in the past with it because I've been using it for well over a year.
Thanks for the help
Last edited by IM4A2Z; Jun 26, 2018 at 11:37 AM.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 237
From: Indianapolis IN
Yes, it appears that some of the initial "hubbub" over the changes has died down, HOWEVER that doesn't mean that we're happy with the changes...….having to manually type in a font size change, rather than just being able to highlight the word, and click on a different size. Yeah, that sure was an improvement.....
At least I have the decency to tell people to their face to get bent when its going my way or the highway.. It won't slow this place down a bit so why should they care.... I would just think a page would want the users to like the format used.. When there are multiple choices, why change it? Or when people tell you how awful it is, why not go back? Blows my mind.
That's life though.
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Team Owner
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 36,040
Likes: 4
From: All great change begins at the dinner table Ronald Reagan
To be honest, it makes no sense because your statement and conclusion is wrong. IB does not "wants to upset" members. It has been explained why the changes took place. I understand you don't accept it, but this is not the forum to drop political remarks or be unrealstic.
Again, the majority of those who provide feedback are usually providing criticism. People tend to complain more than they praise. Not just for CorvetteForum. Just because there are comments against the change does not mean that's the majority.
Again, the majority of those who provide feedback are usually providing criticism. People tend to complain more than they praise. Not just for CorvetteForum. Just because there are comments against the change does not mean that's the majority.
Reading through this would lead one to believe that there were more complaints about new devices acting wonky than current users complaining. I hate to sound like a doubting Thomas, but I don't recall any off topic threads complaining about the previous configuration.
So I have to wonder who is it that asked for the changes and why does their request trump the requests to leave it alone?
Yes, people do tend to complain more than praise so where are all the complaints that drove this change?
So I have to wonder who is it that asked for the changes and why does their request trump the requests to leave it alone?
Yes, people do tend to complain more than praise so where are all the complaints that drove this change?
Can you answer these questions?
Who wanted the change requests?
IB Staff
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 4
I suspect it doesn't matter what answer is provided. You have to understand the Help and Offtopic sections, albeit get comments and questions about the site, is not the complete picture. There's an email address, contact us form, our parent company also gets feedback, and from time to time a survey is ran where feedback is gathered. Additionally, our parent company owns over 100 similar sites like CorvetteForum that also gets feedback about usability that is also used to help improve and update the software.
IB Staff
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 4
Based on the fact there's quite a bit of people quoting another member when replying, I suspect if there is any issue it is not that widespread. But again, an error message might help.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 237
From: Indianapolis IN
I suspect it doesn't matter what answer is provided. You have to understand the Help and Offtopic sections, albeit get comments and questions about the site, is not the complete picture. There's an email address, contact us form, our parent company also gets feedback, and from time to time a survey is ran where feedback is gathered. Additionally, our parent company owns over 100 similar sites like CorvetteForum that also gets feedback about usability that is also used to help improve and update the software.
Has anyone else seen a survey about this site or any other affiliated site that many of us are on?
Team Owner
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 66,675
Likes: 86
From: Santa Cruz CA
St. Jude Donor '15
I thought my IPad somehow screwed up and changed. But after finding this thread I have to agree with all the complaints that is not benefit but a nucence. I can’t even post a Smilie Anymore
Team Owner
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 87,330
Likes: 1,589
From: Western NY
I suspect it doesn't matter what answer is provided. You have to understand the Help and Offtopic sections, albeit get comments and questions about the site, is not the complete picture. There's an email address, contact us form, our parent company also gets feedback, and from time to time a survey is ran where feedback is gathered. Additionally, our parent company owns over 100 similar sites like CorvetteForum that also gets feedback about usability that is also used to help improve and update the software.
Thanks for any info you can provide...……
EDIT...I fully understand that you're the messenger, so to speak, so I'm not aiming my criticisms at you, personally. What I/we are hoping, is that you can give our feedback to "upper management".
Last edited by leadfoot4; Jun 28, 2018 at 09:11 AM.
Team Owner
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 35,747
Likes: 148
From: Northern NYs Adirondack Mountains,http://www.visitsacandaga.com.
"JT", I'm aware that IB owns a number of other sites, as I saw these changes creep into the "LS1tech.com" and "JaguarForum.com" sites, beginning several weeks ago. Therefore, I knew it was only a matter of time, before these "improvements" would hit here. However, with respect to the "survey" that you mention....I don't get as involved in the other sites I mentioned, as I do here, at CF, so it's easy for me to miss things there. But after 16 years of continuous participation, with over 50,000 posts here, I have NEVER seen any requests for feedback, from the CF's ownership. Where/when can someone get on the list for these surveys?
Thanks for any info you can provide...……
EDIT...I fully understand that you're the messenger, so to speak, so I'm not aiming my criticisms at you, personally. What I/we are hoping, is that you can give our feedback to "upper management".
Thanks for any info you can provide...……
EDIT...I fully understand that you're the messenger, so to speak, so I'm not aiming my criticisms at you, personally. What I/we are hoping, is that you can give our feedback to "upper management".
Just to put these two in it took two trips to the "smiley section" (not too efficient!)
Race Director
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 18,191
Likes: 145
From: Snake handler
IB Staff
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 4
This was noted a few times but gets lost in the comments. The breadcrumb was removed because there's a future update coming that wouldn't allow breadcrumbs to work. However, based on the feedback provided, there is discussion that it may return as an option instead of the feature that won't work with the breadcrumbs.
IB Staff
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,574
Likes: 4
"JT", I'm aware that IB owns a number of other sites, as I saw these changes creep into the "LS1tech.com" and "JaguarForum.com" sites, beginning several weeks ago. Therefore, I knew it was only a matter of time, before these "improvements" would hit here. However, with respect to the "survey" that you mention....I don't get as involved in the other sites I mentioned, as I do here, at CF, so it's easy for me to miss things there. But after 16 years of continuous participation, with over 50,000 posts here, I have NEVER seen any requests for feedback, from the CF's ownership. Where/when can someone get on the list for these surveys?
Thanks for any info you can provide...……
EDIT...I fully understand that you're the messenger, so to speak, so I'm not aiming my criticisms at you, personally. What I/we are hoping, is that you can give our feedback to "upper management".
Thanks for any info you can provide...……
EDIT...I fully understand that you're the messenger, so to speak, so I'm not aiming my criticisms at you, personally. What I/we are hoping, is that you can give our feedback to "upper management".
Regarding the surveys, I'm not entirely sure on the criteria as I'm not involved on that. I just know they do (or did) exist. I will check into that.
I'm sure the design will continue to be tweaked to address some valid concerns but I doubt a revert is on the table. There are 456K registered members on this site and those who are expecting or demanding the changes be reverted based on less than 1% feedback given against it while not providing any useful points and just wanting to argue about *any* change or upset without valid points about why, it's not really helpful and is probably not going to do much. As bad as that may sound, to expect otherwise is not really reality.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 2,211
Likes: 237
From: Indianapolis IN
"JT", I'm aware that IB owns a number of other sites, as I saw these changes creep into the "LS1tech.com" and "JaguarForum.com" sites, beginning several weeks ago. Therefore, I knew it was only a matter of time, before these "improvements" would hit here. However, with respect to the "survey" that you mention....I don't get as involved in the other sites I mentioned, as I do here, at CF, so it's easy for me to miss things there.But after 16 years of continuous participation, with over 50,000 posts here, I have NEVER seen any requests for feedback, from the CF's ownership. Where/when can someone get on the list for these surveys?
Thanks for any info you can provide...……
EDIT...I fully understand that you're the messenger, so to speak, so I'm not aiming my criticisms at you, personally. What I/we are hoping, is that you can give our feedback to "upper management".
Thanks for any info you can provide...……
EDIT...I fully understand that you're the messenger, so to speak, so I'm not aiming my criticisms at you, personally. What I/we are hoping, is that you can give our feedback to "upper management".
Hopefully there will be some active forum member involvement in the future to avoid the complaints and troubles. I prefer the "don't fix it if it isn't broken" line of thinking myself.