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Old Dec 23, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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Come on, folks. The Subscribe to this Thread option under Thread Tools works just fine on this and every other BBS I've used over the past 20 years.


Back on topic, the following video shows how to update this HU from 4.2.2 to 4.4.4 using this firmware update.
Can you run USB Host check again and see if it is avail now with 4.4.4?

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The enhancements are not particularly relevant to me, so I will likely wait for 5.0, but at least one other forum member has already performed the update, so perhaps he will chime in with an answer. And I still recommend contacting the vendor!

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The USB Host Check app reports the following:



I did not attempt to enable it because my device isn't rooted and I don't need this capability. If you send the seller a note I'm sure you will receive a prompt response.
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The enhancements are not particularly relevant to me, so I will likely wait for 5.0, but at least one other forum member has already performed the update, so perhaps he will chime in with an answer. I still think you should contact the vendor...
Thanks I knew you checked it once before..

Was hoping the newer version would offer it.. I think i will stick with the App Radio and HDMI Stick ( I am removing my tablet for various reasons)
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What app or wallpaper are you using for the vette flags , looks good. after seeing your post I bought and finally installed same unit in c5 vert.
I used Google Image Search to find an appealing image, saved it to the HU and used the Wallpaper Wizard app to set it as the background. The exact image I used is here:



Thanks - all your work helped and saved me time and money. Happy New Year
You're welcome. Glad to hear it! HNY to you, too!

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I purchased one of these units along with the PAC RP5-GM11 interface and am planning to install it on my 2010 C6. Perhaps you could confirm wiring to the PAC interface. I'm assuming all wiring is as per the PAC instructions except:
1. Red HU ACC wire spliced to red PAC ACC wire and PAC blue/white amplifier wire so that amplifier is enabled whenever power is on.
2. 12 terminal GM connector. Cut yellow and green/white wires. On connector end, yellow PAC wire to HU KEY1 and green/white PAC wire to HU GND wire. Other ends of the PAC wires going to the PAC module taped up and not used.

A few other questions:
1. Since the PAC SWC function is not used, does it matter what the PAC rotary switch is set to?
2. Did you require the chime module or do chime sounds function normally through the car speakers?
3. What steps did you have to go through to pair the OBDLink MX Bluetooth?

How did everything work out for you? Do you like the unit?
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I'm seriously considering the new HU (Android 4.4 KitKat) from this company to replace the aftermarket single DIN in my C5. Aside from the obvious bezel mod, do you know of any caveats regarding such an upgrade? I'm thinking the interface kit for the Bose system has already been installed or the Bose setup replaced altogether, but I can confirm neither until I tear into the dash. With your unit, can you record directly from the CD player to the SD card to store music or do you have to update the SD card from a PC?
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Could I set up a "back up camera" to record forward facing while Im driving on track(assuming I do it in forward gears ) or is it hard wired for reverse only?
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With your unit, can you record directly from the CD player to the SD card to store music or do you have to update the SD card from a PC?
I have only ever updated my SD card from my PC. The default player app does not provide an option to rip tracks, but perhaps other apps are available that do (though few Android devices have a built-in DVD player). The seller should be able to provide insight on this.

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Could I set up a "back up camera" to record forward facing while Im driving on track(assuming I do it in forward gears ) or is it hard wired for reverse only?
That is unnecessary since it already has separate inputs for both (see "DVR" function in the ad).
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I was about to pull the trigger and order the new Android 4.4 unit until I realized there was no mention of SiriusXM. I need my XM radio.
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Like most Android devices, it lacks a SiriusXM receiver but can access SiriusXM broadcasts over a wireless data connection via the Android SiriusXM App (I just checked Google Play to confirm compatibility).
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New to the forum and this thread has been fantastic to help sort out my next steps, going to try to follow in your footsteps bjmsam. Hardware on order just need to find the time to get it in. If you had it to do over again, anything you would have changed? Thanks again for blazing the trail!
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 01:46 AM
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Welcome to CF! I hope it installs smoothly for you and meets your expectations. I would do it again as described without hesitation.
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Got my unit and got it upgraded to 4.4... Getting ready for the install but some of the wires names are a little funny... Anyone have any ideas:

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SAF Pink
K1 Brown
CAN-RX Blue/Black
CAN-TX Blue/White
K-2 Brown White

And anyone know what Split Machine is and has anyone confirmed the Ant lead is active in all modes for AMP triggering..
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If your unit is like mine, the AMP wire comes out of the same pin as the power antenna wire. I would not trust it as my amp does not always power up unless the radio is selected.

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Congrats! I hope you like it as much as I do.

I'm no expert, and it has now been several months since I completed the installation, but:

You might consider wiring the amp trigger to the switched power as I described to ensure that the amp is on whenever the HU is on. Key 1 and Key 2 in my description refer to K1 and K2 (only one is needed for the SWC in the C6). I believe CAN+ and CAN- are for CAN bus (not used), and I believe Split Device is when multiple devices are combined (not used). I don't remember the pink SAF wire; perhaps it is for the emergency brake (SAFety) signal...

I'm sure the seller would be happy to provide authoritative answers to your questions!
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I just installed one of these head units on my 2010 C6 (non Bose). It replaced a Kenwood that had been on the car for about a year. The Kenwood worked great, but being able to download and use Android apps and WIFI seemed attractive.

Installation as outlined by bjmsam was straightforward. The RP5-GM11 interface works OK and the steering wheel buttons function correctly with the modified hookup he used.

There are serious problems with the FM radio. It's picking up alternator whine. This only occurs on FM (maybe also AM, but who listens to AM). It does not occur in any other sound modes, i.e. playing MP3 files, CDs, or nav voice. It also stops playing immediately if you turn on the windshield wipers. Yeah it's bizarre! The sound dies, but it you change stations, it plays the new station for a few seconds and then dies again. Just like the alternator whine, signal strength has no effect, strong local stations a few miles away are affected just the same as fringe stations. My guess is that they used some really cheap AM/FM radio submodule that is affected by noise on the 12 volt power. It's not HD radio. And the sensitivity is not nearly as good as the Kenwood.

Anyone have any ideas? Any similar issues with other HUs?

The WIFI range is also very limited. It picks up my home WIFI when the car is parked in the garage or WIFI at Starbucks when the car is parked right in front of the store. Other devices with WIFI such as a Samsung smartphone or Android Nexus 7 tablet have a much wider range inside the car under the same conditions.

A final observation on video. I have a front camera (to keep an expensive carbon fiber splitter from turning into splinters on curbstones). The video quality was so-so with the Kenwood. I did some experiments and found that the camera itself was not the problem. The Kenwood was installed by a "pro" who used the cheap extension cable that came with the camera and just coiled up the extra length of about 5-6 feet (too lazy to trim it to length and solder on a new plug). Replacing the video cable with some good quality RG-59 made a world of difference. The video is now much sharper.
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Originally Posted by cschroed
I just installed one of these head units on my 2010 C6 (non Bose). It replaced a Kenwood that had been on the car for about a year. The Kenwood worked great, but being able to download and use Android apps and WIFI seemed attractive.

Installation as outlined by bjmsam was straightforward. The RP5-GM11 interface works OK and the steering wheel buttons function correctly with the modified hookup he used.

There are serious problems with the FM radio. It's picking up alternator whine. This only occurs on FM (maybe also AM, but who listens to AM). It does not occur in any other sound modes, i.e. playing MP3 files, CDs, or nav voice. It also stops playing immediately if you turn on the windshield wipers. Yeah it's bizarre! The sound dies, but it you change stations, it plays the new station for a few seconds and then dies again. Just like the alternator whine, signal strength has no effect, strong local stations a few miles away are affected just the same as fringe stations. My guess is that they used some really cheap AM/FM radio submodule that is affected by noise on the 12 volt power. It's not HD radio. And the sensitivity is not nearly as good as the Kenwood.

Anyone have any ideas? Any similar issues with other HUs?

The WIFI range is also very limited. It picks up my home WIFI when the car is parked in the garage or WIFI at Starbucks when the car is parked right in front of the store. Other devices with WIFI such as a Samsung smartphone or Android Nexus 7 tablet have a much wider range inside the car under the same conditions.

A final observation on video. I have a front camera (to keep an expensive carbon fiber splitter from turning into splinters on curbstones). The video quality was so-so with the Kenwood. I did some experiments and found that the camera itself was not the problem. The Kenwood was installed by a "pro" who used the cheap extension cable that came with the camera and just coiled up the extra length of about 5-6 feet (too lazy to trim it to length and solder on a new plug). Replacing the video cable with some good quality RG-59 made a world of difference. The video is now much sharper.
you say 2010 non Bose but is the battery in the trunk? Do you think the power/alt wire is laying across the antenna? Too close to signal wires?
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 05:57 AM
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I agree that it is likely an antenna or ground issue (perhaps something like this). I encountered no such problems, though reception is far worse than in my other vehicles, but that was true of the OEM HU as well (see below for thoughts on why that might be).

The wi-fi capability is meant to enable other devices in the car when the HU acquires internet connectivity from a 3G dongle or phone. The HU is buried in a metal chassis in the middle of a metal dash and has no external wi-fi antenna so limited range is to be expected. The $20 wi-fi router I installed in the garage enabled full strength signal.

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The 2006 and 2007 C6 has the XM antenna(s) in the outside rearview mirrors (2005 had a wart on the roof). The two dual diversity FM antenna elements are in the rear fascia, as is the single voltage probe AM antenna.

All of these antennas are active antennas. The XM antennas have LNB block downconverters built in, the FM diversity module has preamps and switching built in, and the active AM antenna has a FET source follower. The modules containing the active electronics for the FM and AM antennas are accessible by removing the rear interior trim panel. If power is lost to a module, or a module is defective, you'll have very poor or no reception.

Poor XM reception in rural areas is to be expected if the antennas don't have a clear view of the southern sky. Hills, buildings, or even heavy vegetation, can block the signal. In most urban areas, XM has terrestrial repeaters to fill in for signal loss due to urban clutter. Sometimes these repeaters are out of service. It isn't uncommon to suddenly find you can't receive a signal in areas which worked before, then in a few days the signal is back. That's simply because the repeater for that area was down, and was then repaired.

Dual diversity virtually eliminates multipath flutter on FM signals. If you get lots of flutter on weak signals, suspect one of the FM antennas is broken. If all signals are weak, suspect that the diversity module has failed.

AM reception in a plastic car is problematic. The wavelengths of AM broadcast signals are so long that there are only two sorts of practical antennas, the ferrite loaded loop, or the voltage probe. Since loop antennas are directional, they aren't suitable for a car, so voltage probe it is. The voltage probe antenna works by sensing the potential difference of the EM wave between ground and a point located above ground. Normally, the metal car body is used as the RF ground (its capacitance to true Earth supplies the RF ground connection). But the Corvette doesn't have a metal body, so the frame is used. The frame isn't nearly as large a capacitor plate as a metal body, so while it works, it doesn't work exceedingly well. A bad frame ground connection to the AM module will result in very poor AM reception.

Most likely you have a bad ground connection to the AM module. Probably a failure to bite through the paint where the wire attaches to the frame, or possibly a cross threaded screw that didn't tighten down on the wire enough to make good electrical contact.

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Old Jan 25, 2015 | 01:25 PM
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Bjmsam and others who have this unit. How's the sound quality as compared to the stock unit?
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Sound quality is excellent when connected to the stock Bose amplifier. Perhaps someone else can comment on sound quality when its internal amplifier is used to drive the speakers.
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