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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 12:29 AM
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I fully get it and have, one reason i have not posted much, the relentless furor on inner stuff that only serves to derail the build with depressing negativity , if the ranting about it is all a person has to offer which is seeming the case then yeah, make your own thread and rant to your hearts content,

I want to appeal to you guys worried about the inner stuff , drop the swords and egos, take a breath and lets get this going on track again, the worse thing in the world is to regret a project that a person is overwhelmed in, hello, im there, with my 69 and i happen to find the work this lady is doing very stunning and motivating, help her dont hender.

Priya, i know as a fact this can and will happen for you, take a step back then glass her in, once you get there its down hill, you will forget the pace car spoiler and be overjoyed you stuck it out, so close just grab it and make it yours.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 12:38 AM
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Priya....your project is what inspired me to attempt the same conversion with one of my 75s. That and David Howard's racer.

So....please do not let yourself get mired down in frustration and side tracked posts.
Every project takes at least twice as long and sometimes twice as much money to complete.
I finally pulled my body off its frame a couple of months back. That is after the car sat for 10yrs.
During that time, my plans/designs have changed numerous times.
And I have sold parts that I now need.....LOL.

No sense regretting anything in the past.

Please keep inspiring the rest of us out here.

And thank your hubby for those of us watching and learning.

My wife's bathroom shower has been waiting a year for me to complete. Such is the life of a do-it-yourselfer (and family). But the rewards outdo the pains.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 09:00 AM
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It's someones inner fire that keeps them going, not positive or negative thoughts from others. However I do find naysayers to be more inspirational than the phony compliment givers. It's highly motivating to prove the naysayers wrong. People that hand out unjustified compliments are not telling me what they really think so what good is it.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 09:26 AM
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Thanks for the encouragement guys! You really help a lot

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Priya
Thanks for the encouragement guys! You really help a lot
Coolness,

Curious a few things,
I dont know the situation or weather, area or anything but is gettiing the car outside in the open for some real good looking from near and far a possibility?

i wonder if people and a couple have posted many are lurking with this type mod on a bubble back, ( sorry dg) could measure from the bottom center of the window trim to the top center edge of the duck tail, you do the same, i am still super concerned OCD that the poportions are good, and even believe it will still play a roll with the fit, even if larger gaps need be filled,

Okay, im all scared now, i gave opinion nay almost advice, i dont wanna be a cook in this kitchen...;-)
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 04:27 PM
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The weather is typically around 45 degrees for a high and 30 for a low but there's been quite a bit of variation on that. I'm not really able to get the car out of the garage as it is on a scissors lift that has a ramp leading up perhaps a foot or so from the garage floor and without the car running we can't push it back up the ramp if we take it out.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 06:19 PM
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Well, here are some more pictures that hopefully give Dub the angles he was after. I drew lines on the character line where the quarter panels meet the upper deck but they didn't show up in the pictures. The outer edges of the outermost wood clamps line up with character lines where the quarter panel meets the upper deck on both the 79 and the 70-73 ACI rear clip.








On this one you can see the black line I drew on the 70-73 ACI rear clip and the grey line I drew on the 79. Both lines are on the character line where the quarter panel meets the upper deck.








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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by The13Bats
I fully get it and have, one reason i have not posted much, the relentless furor on inner stuff that only serves to derail the build with depressing negativity , if the ranting about it is all a person has to offer which is seeming the case then yeah, make your own thread and rant to your hearts content,

I did not intend it to 'derail' Priya....with as you put it..."depressing negativity". The choice is hers to make...which she stated in the post before you posted that you may have not read....and she made her choice but you still chose to comment...and EXCUSE ME for caring enough about her well being to make it a subject of concern. It was NOT only for her benefit...but other people who may read this thread. The choice is always theirs and theirs alone. I see you STILL harbor hatred towards me in your name calling....which does nothing to help Priya.


I want to appeal to you guys worried about the inner stuff , drop the swords and egos, take a breath and lets get this going on track again, the worse thing in the world is to regret a project that a person is overwhelmed in, hello, im there, with my 69 and i happen to find the work this lady is doing very stunning and motivating, help her dont hender.
Priya has made her decision so I am good with it.

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The weather is typically around 45 degrees for a high and 30 for a low but there's been quite a bit of variation on that. I'm not really able to get the car out of the garage as it is on a scissors lift that has a ramp leading up perhaps a foot or so from the garage floor and without the car running we can't push it back up the ramp if we take it out.
For what it is worth...and I know the space in your garage is a hot commodity...I would NOT advise doing this out in the weather unprotected. Regardless of the current air temperatures. I KNOW many people do bodywork outside and cover the car back up...but that does not make it the best way of doing it.

And again...FOR WHATEVER IT IS WORTH:
Priya,
If my passionate comments regarding 'you know what' upset you or made you feel overwhelmed and pressured...I did not intend it to do that. I NEVER puts limits on what a person can do. If that person wants to do it...then they WILL. AND from what I have seen you have done a lot. SO you are proof what I just wrote is true. And as you have found out....projects like this can be quite challenging.

And I would guess that you want HONEST comments and not a bunch of false praise....correct??? Even if those comments may not make you feel the best....I am sure that you know they are in your best interests and NOT trying to force you to do anything you do not want to do.

So who am I to hold you back from doing things that you have CLEARLY SHOWN that you can do but yet NEVER have done it before...like you have shown in this thread. And if I killed your 'MOJO'...I apologize. I know you do know that I have invested my time and money into your project..and I was GLAD to help you when you were in need for a the rear 'CORVETTE' letter panel section...and if that does not show that I am here to help you....I do not know what else I can do.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:19 PM
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THANKS for the photos. That is what I needed to see.

Obviously there are two ways of doing this...so...it depends if you want to cut a slit in the quarter panel and draw it in...or laminate it up and add VPA to the ACI clip to bring it out to meet with the factory quarter panel curve and blend that contour in.

And as you more than likely have looked at and noticed....there will be a transition from the curve or the quarter to the ACI clip due to these body contours are different. And not that it is 100% required to be done...but being able to get to the underside and add mat and resin (regardless of which way you choose) would benefit the job.

That will take care of the top line...as for the side line where the lines are off at an angle....we can get to that when and if you start you laminating and get the clip to be held in place...because you can deal with the side quarter area when you desire...because it is not required that you apply all the mat and resin at one time.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:20 PM
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She posted the pictures you ask for and not a word about them or help in how to proceed, just more scolding and ranting,

I dont hate you, if i think about it i actually feel really badly for you.

Can you let this go and help her, we will see.

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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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I know you're hear to help Dub and I appreciate that.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The13Bats
i wonder if people and a couple have posted many are lurking with this type mod on a bubble back, ( sorry dg) could measure from the bottom center of the window trim to the top center edge of the duck tail, you do the same, i am still super concerned OCD that the poportions are good, and even believe it will still play a roll with the fit, even if larger gaps need be filled,
I'll get that measurement next time I have the 70-73 ACI rear clip in place.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DUB
THANKS for the photos. That is what I needed to see.

Obviously there are two ways of doing this...so...it depends if you want to cut a slit in the quarter panel and draw it in...or laminate it up and add VPA to the ACI clip to bring it out to meet with the factory quarter panel curve and blend that contour in.


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I'm thinking of doing both and sort of meeting each panel halfway.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Priya
I'm thinking of doing both and sort of meeting each panel halfway.
Good idea,

When i asked if the car could come out it was only to get a better look at things,

I asked for the measurement just for thinking and comparing,
I still hold firm that for it to be what you want proportions need to be on, how much can they different bubble window car to the next im not sure, so i will mess with photoshop, im a sucker for pix,
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 08:18 PM
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I appreciate it Bats.
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 08:22 PM
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A CRAZY THOUGHT.. what if you made the space on the side panel (between the original and the new ) larger and then "cast" in the section to correct the misalignment. I did it in mockups using wax paper with very thin 1/32 birch plywood as the backing. The wax paper (acts like mold release) would go in from behind -backed up with the birch plywood. Then you could fill in the gap with glass mat , over lay the two panels. When dry remove the plywood and wax paper. Grind / sand the inside and overlay the seams and "new cast in filler...

You could possibly contour cut a piece of wood to hold the 1/32 plywood against the inside of the panels to get the contour. This curved piece would be vertical, one on the ACI and one on the original panel.

Again just a thought...
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Originally Posted by BLUE1972
A CRAZY THOUGHT.. what if you made the space on the side panel (between the original and the new ) larger and then "cast" in the section to correct the misalignment. I did it in mockups using wax paper with very thin 1/32 birch plywood as the backing. The wax paper (acts like mold release) would go in from behind -backed up with the birch plywood. Then you could fill in the gap with glass mat , over lay the two panels. When dry remove the plywood and wax paper. Grind / sand the inside and overlay the seams and "new cast in filler...

You could possibly contour cut a piece of wood to hold the 1/32 plywood against the inside of the panels to get the contour. This curved piece would be vertical, one on the ACI and one on the original panel.

Again just a thought...
Blue, where it is now i really dig that idea, it seems it might be something to consider incorporating, it makes sense.

I will have to do something like that on my rear flares because of body damage mike did
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Old Apr 17, 2017 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BLUE1972
A CRAZY THOUGHT.. what if you made the space on the side panel (between the original and the new ) larger and then "cast" in the section to correct the misalignment. I did it in mockups using wax paper with very thin 1/32 birch plywood as the backing. The wax paper (acts like mold release) would go in from behind -backed up with the birch plywood. Then you could fill in the gap with glass mat , over lay the two panels. When dry remove the plywood and wax paper. Grind / sand the inside and overlay the seams and "new cast in filler...

You could possibly contour cut a piece of wood to hold the 1/32 plywood against the inside of the panels to get the contour. This curved piece would be vertical, one on the ACI and one on the original panel.

Again just a thought...
I'll give that some thought Blue, thanks for the suggestion.
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Sharp-looking wooden clamps!

Now.....what I would do is.........

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Priya...
Interesting way you are attacking the different planes as they come together.
I have a few questions for you and others who have tackled this. I am getting ready to start on mine in June.

How much new glass/VPA is needed to hold anew gap together so that it does not create a fault line, etc...?
And in filling this in, how do you keep from creating the look of a mound where they meet while not having enough to hold it together...???

Do my questions make sense?

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