New crate engine is now a steam engine....bad problem...
Pro
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Originally Posted by Maine Vette
If possible, be there with your mechanic when he disassembles the engine and takes lots and lots of pictures with a good camera. You may need them as evidence.
Good luck, I hope everything works out for you.
P.S. - I think I'm addicted to this thread now, I've been checking in on it about 5 or 6 times a day!
Good luck, I hope everything works out for you.
P.S. - I think I'm addicted to this thread now, I've been checking in on it about 5 or 6 times a day!
FILM pictures, not digital.
Melting Slicks
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From: Massapequa Park NY
Originally Posted by Nemesis_152
FILM pictures, not digital.
You may want to consult an attourney at this point to make sure you've covered all your bases and to prepare for a potential lawsuit. Can't hurt to be prepared & no one but you needs to know.
Good luck - I hope everything works out in your favor
Jim
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Originally Posted by 70BBvert
Exactly digital pictures can be altered to easily. Been addicted to this thread for the past few days. Nice to know so many people are willing to help & lend their expertise.
You may want to consult an attourney at this point to make sure you've covered all your bases and to prepare for a potential lawsuit. Can't hurt to be prepared & no one but you needs to know.
Good luck - I hope everything works out in your favor
Jim
You may want to consult an attourney at this point to make sure you've covered all your bases and to prepare for a potential lawsuit. Can't hurt to be prepared & no one but you needs to know.
Good luck - I hope everything works out in your favor
Jim
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Hopefully with a favorable 3rd party inspection report, I will further strengthen my case. Was even considering getting two different local opinions.
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make sure the opinion is form some one that no one can dispute the credentials....thats why i was saying use a Mechanical Engineer who is a certified Professional Enginer (PE)
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take some better shots of that piston, use the zoom, don't hold the camera that close..try to get a pic as crisp as possible... that way we can see if there is cross hatching, if there is a thrust edhe..
do you have vernier calipers? If so, do a crude bore measurement.
do you have vernier calipers? If so, do a crude bore measurement.
Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
No need to baby the engine, it does more harm than good. If you drive it hard, meaning full throttle acceleration and engine braking you build cylinder pressure which forces the rings into the wall, vastly improving the sealing..and it will rbeak in before the wall glazes up. Failing to do so will result in an engine that has excessive blowby and consumes oil, lost power...even tendency to detonation because of carbon contamination if it's real bad...bottom line, don't baby it. Driving it hard does not mean revving the snot out of it, revs kill engines, cylinder pressure does not.
Oh well, I did mash the throttle a few times during the first 500 miles, couldn't resist. But I never took it past 4.5K.And lets make a compromise, baby it at least until you tune it and set the timing!
Safety Car
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From: St Louis MO
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
take some better shots of that piston, use the zoom, don't hold the camera that close..try to get a pic as crisp as possible... that way we can see if there is cross hatching, if there is a thrust edhe..
do you have vernier calipers? If so, do a crude bore measurement.
do you have vernier calipers? If so, do a crude bore measurement.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Thanks for the camera advice....going to try the zoom.
Also....here's the latest reply from the "warranty" man. They sure are being awful nice. I will say this, they have returned calls quickly, and have now answered all of my questions. Hopefully this will continue and be a painless transaction.
"Brian
That is the dyno sheet that we would have sent out with your BP3550CT.
Every BP3550CT is dyno tested and will either meet or exceed the specs on
the dyno sheet that I e-mailed you. No I do not have the specific results
of the sonic test on your engine. I would only know that it passed our
block inspection. When you send it back we can test it again and give you
the results. Please let us know when it is ready to be shipped back.
Thanks,
Mike Gana
Warranty Supervisor"
Also....here's the latest reply from the "warranty" man. They sure are being awful nice. I will say this, they have returned calls quickly, and have now answered all of my questions. Hopefully this will continue and be a painless transaction.
"Brian
That is the dyno sheet that we would have sent out with your BP3550CT.
Every BP3550CT is dyno tested and will either meet or exceed the specs on
the dyno sheet that I e-mailed you. No I do not have the specific results
of the sonic test on your engine. I would only know that it passed our
block inspection. When you send it back we can test it again and give you
the results. Please let us know when it is ready to be shipped back.
Thanks,
Mike Gana
Warranty Supervisor"
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Thanks again guys, I think folks are getting sick of this thread (I know I am), so until I get the machine shop evaluation, or someone wants a direct question answered, I'm done with it until then. I hope we all learned something from this, as it has really educated me!! Nothing like experience, good or bad.
I will post updates and findings in this same post.
I will post updates and findings in this same post.
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From: Arlington Va Current ride 04 vert, previous vettes: 69 vert, 77 resto mod
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Thanks again guys, I think folks are getting sick of this thread (I know I am), so until I get the machine shop evaluation, or someone wants a direct question answered, I'm done with it until then. I hope we all learned something from this, as it has really educated me!! Nothing like experience, good or bad.
I will post updates and findings in this same post.
I will post updates and findings in this same post.
nobodies getting sick of this thread....not that anybody is dying or anything lets keep it in perspective....but you are going through most of ours worst nightmare when it comes to the vette....you have the high point of getting a new engine and then the kick in the *** of it being screwed up....we all feel your pain and wish you a good outcome....
Pro
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From: Springhill Kansas
me w/e #. I do have to say that i wouldn't really want another one of their motors, as it seems too many problems with this one that most likely all lead to poor workmanship. I would like a refund. just my .02.
Racer
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From: Syracuse, NY
Me Five! This thread is better than anything on TV! We are all pullin for you. If they don't warranty this engine then what good is their warranty? I seriously doubt anyone would run a new engine hard untill it is fully broken in for at least 500 miles.
Last edited by Iliad; Mar 8, 2006 at 08:29 PM.
Pro
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From: Springhill Kansas
Originally Posted by Iliad
Me Five! This thread is better than anything on TV! We are all pullin for you. If they don't warranty this engine then what good is their warranty? I seriously doubt anyone would run a new engine hard untill it is fully broken in for at least 500 miles.
Drifting
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From: Shore NJ
We all are learning alot from your unfortunate experience, keep us all updated and dont get discouraged. Take lots of photos, document everything you have found, keep a complete log on what they have asked you to do and report to them, times , dates, and reports from anyone you have to look at your engine. I had a bad experience with a repair shop years ago, I documented, photoed, logged everything, the judge was very impressed, the business was dead in the water!
They should honor their warranty and no business like any negative publicity, a post on several sites could be very bad for them...........and the squeaky wheel always gets oiled!
They should honor their warranty and no business like any negative publicity, a post on several sites could be very bad for them...........and the squeaky wheel always gets oiled!
Drifting
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From: staten island ny
Originally Posted by corvetteatv7
me w/e #. I do have to say that i wouldn't really want another one of their motors, as it seems too many problems with this one that most likely all lead to poor workmanship. I would like a refund. just my .02.
PLus a refund for my time/effort doing the install!ESU