I'll be waiting for the "Turtle was right thread" in a few years. ( after you've had some track time )


I've overheated my friggin mexican block about 10 times and i'm still a crusin. Good ole GM goodwrench $1200 engine.

 

You know, your right. This motor had better be exactly as advertised or I'm gonna hang this company. It will then turn into a you want your money back?.....no. Upgraded motor?...No. If it turns into this type of situation I will hang their azzes for many $$$$$$$. This one simple motor they could have simply just said after reviewing your photos we will warranty, they will no get more bad press (on going) and a team of the meanest freakin' lawyers you have ever seen on them.

I have been jokin' a bit lately about this, but if this motor doesn't check out as advertised, I'm gonna hang their azzes. Already caught them in one lie about the dyno (though they swear it is dyno'd, they just don't print sheets for each motor. They make sure each one exceeds the minimum dyno chart he faxed me. Bullcrap.)

Second lie may be the honing and bore size.

Other possible lies will be the parts actually used. It's suppose to have a Scat crank.....what's the bet? Suppose to have a comp cam 268H. Suppose to have KB pistons....I'm not so sure on this either. The intake manifold is a cheap China stamped reproduction of the Edelbrock air gap. It's getting tested as well.

The inside of the water passages on both the heads and the block are badly rusted.

I noticed some rust on the front of the motor when I first got it. It was freshly painted, but looked like they missed a spot.

Oh.....4 bolt main.....what's makes a motor a 4 bolt vrs. 2 bolt? Motor mounts?

Interstate fraud is a federal crime......I can't wait to get this motor to the machine shop.

 

no not the motor mounts its the bolts on the main caps....these are what hold down the crank shaft....they can either have one bolt on each side (ie.2 bolts) or two bolts on each side (4 bolt)...you can't fudge on that one


ps your states attorney generals office may have an internet fraud task force...

 

Hmmm.....I can check that myself when I pull the oil pan off to clean it out....

Hey, these guys might check out, but my gut tells me they won't. Kinda make you wonder why they gave me permission to have a third party inspect it, doesn't it? Wonder if that is some type of trap? All I have is an email reply saying it's okay....wonder if that is admissable in court?

 

E-mails are legal documents. You're actually required by law to keep e-mails for 3 years.

 

Yes, it is. You just have to testify that it is the e-mail that you received from them. Then it's in.

 

it may be that you have them figured wrong....they have given you everything you asked for....i bet they subcontract some engine builds....a reputable company doesn't mind the the third party inspection....

they just can't admit fault without seeing the product

 

I advise against cleaning anything. Let the mechanic do this and only as required. Probably leave the oil filter alone rather than open it.
Basically I would get him to measure all bores and look for ridge and wear, pull a main brng. and check size marking, remove a rod cap and check size and measure journal and maybe one piston but not the bad one, look at oil pump and screen it should be new,pull a lifter or two they should come right out and show no wear, cam should look new, all the internal components should look spanking clean except for your milkshake mix, if there is debree in pan leave it but note it in photos and notes, timing gears and chain should look new and be tight.
Record the serial number and check against invoice.
Good luck my friend. I just hate it when someone gets screwed.

 

This is a labor intensive area,and probably one where they tried to cut some corners..no pun intended....
Rich

 

I just went out to their website: http://www.blueprintengines.com/about/tv_spot.html
and they have a convenient "contact us" link.

Just give the nod and I'm sure many of us would be willing to send them a note on your behalf

 

Why not pull the bad piston? We need to in order to get a full view of the bore. Just wondering why you would say this.

The only stipulation in my getting 3rd party inspection is it has to be reassembled before shipping back.

I have already flushed the engine twice, but I will take your advice on the oil pan and filter, and leave it in place for my inspection at the machine shop. I just hate to leave all that chit in there.

 

I guess it don't matter on the bad piston, just save all the pieces in an envelope if the rings come apart.

 

Funny you should mention that. I pulled the shipping ticket and it was shipped from Goodman Auto Repair in Platte City, Mo.

WTF?

How many dyno machines you think Goodman has?

I'm getting madder by the minute.


Anybody near Platte City want to check this place out for me? Worth a few cold suds and a steak dinner if you ever come south. (True South that is).

 

Water in the oil is a probable indication of either a blown head gasket or cracked head - no question about it. There is also a test to detect CO2 in the radiator water.

Most likely you will be pulling the head either way.



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Bucky....I know it's a long thread, but you really need to read all of it before you comment. The cause of the oil water mix was discovered many pages back.

 

Dang -- Now I feel guilty for making the ridge comment to begin with.

 

Damn! Your right I ain't gonna read 13 pages to hunt for it. Wonder what the problem was cuz I still ain't?

BTW... did my answer sound knowledgeable...

Hope it was an easy fix.



PS. I was going to answer the question about the difference between a 4 & 2 bolt main, but now I'm scared!


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Very close bucky, but not an easy fix.

 

I'm having a hard problem digesting this dyno testing crap.....

The advertise: "Dyno tested – and shipped with results"

Now a normal person would view this as my motor is going to be dynoed, and I shall receive a dyno sheet for "my" motor

The email reply I received when I questioned them on this says: "We run every Blueprint Engine on our performance dyno to make sure we
hit our target horsepower, and verify that we have the proper torque and
break the new engine in. We do not save the individual dyno charts. "

WTF? You take the time to Dyno it, but you won't take the time to print the results and put them in an envelope?

 

I agree. That's blatantly false advertising.