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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shafrs3
Betcha that started yesterday.
It's looking that way......all the clues say it started at start up, or minutes after.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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I'm now starting to think that this was not of my doing. I don't think their is any way that by driving the car 1/2 mile and never over 50 mph, and at max a couple of hours idling in the garage could have been something I did......
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If they installed the intake, i don't see how you could have done anything to mess it up.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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me either.....Good luck.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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It's a possiblity your engine was run on the dyno with whatever manifold was available at the time for their test run. Your intake that is on your motor now might not be the same one used to Dyno the motor. It could be a simple thing like an intake manifold problem and can be taken care rather simpley. Hopefully that will be all it will take to fix your problem, houstonvett

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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My fingers are crossed........but there must have been 30 quarts or more of water that leaked into the heads/block.

Interesting that no water was coming from anywhere on the outside of the motor. Nothing. Only coming out of the header end when motor was on.

Strange chit.........strange.......

Also......how the heck am I'm going to no the extent of any damage without pulling the motor apart?

I'm thinking they are probably first going to tell me to pull the intake, and call them back with info. Then they will probably have me pull the leaking head and report, and what my findings are.

Then they will say...now send us that head for inspection.......in the mean time, I'll be back up on block for another 3 months.........chit.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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Another note.........It's freaking incredible that I never lost oil pressure pumping that thick crap through my engine. What a freakin' strong **** oil pump!! (Melling).
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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The intake manifold is leaking into the intake port of 1 or 2 cylinders along with mixing with the oil in the crankcase. So if you have no oil leaks in the motor you will see no foam until you pull the covers. The water coming out the tail pipe is the cylinder(s) share of the intake manifold leak. Since the machine shop allready has broken in the cam, lifters and rings you should have no problem with the engine after it is fixed if it is the intake manifold that is the problem, houstonvett
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by houstonvett
The intake manifold is leaking into the intake port of 1 or 2 cylinders along with mixing with the oil in the crankcase. So if you have no oil leaks in the motor you will see no foam until you pull the covers. The water coming out the tail pipe is the cylinder(s) share of the intake manifold leak. Since the machine shop allready has broken in the cam, lifters and rings you should have no problem with the engine after it is fixed if it is the intake manifold that is the problem, houstonvett
Thanks Houston. At least you have given me some hope. You know, there was no foamy or oily matter exiting the header, it was just spraying water and mist. Maybe I will get lucky, but where did all that dayum water go???
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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sorry to hear about your bad luck and i hope everything works out in the end. i hope it turns out to be something minor
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Are all the head bolts present & accounted for? Almost looks like one may have been loose or missing all together. What a mess. Good luck & hope that the problem is resolved swiftly & to your satisfaction.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rdavis
Are all the head bolts present & accounted for? Almost looks like one may have been loose or missing all together. What a mess. Good luck & hope that the problem is resolved swiftly & to your satisfaction.
Checked all the head bolts and all appear to be very well torqued.
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did it have any anitfreeze in it??? doesn't the gycol when it gets mixed with oil do something really bad to bearings?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Yes it did, but not much. I only added 2 gal. of 50/50 mix so in reality only 1 gal. of antifreeze and the rest water. Thought I had bought regular freeze until I got to pouring it in and noticed the label.

And.........brand new Dewitts rad., new water pump, new hoses, new t'stat.
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luck doesn't get much worse. sorry to hear bout your problems, and hopefully they will be a stand up company, and do what they should.
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Yes it did, but not much. I only added 2 gal. of 50/50 mix so in reality only 1 gal. of antifreeze and the rest water. .
you need to due some due diligence on the effects of gycol mixed with oil on your bearings before you talk to the engine place... so sorry for this turn of events , i was getting psyched for your new install.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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sorry...
http://www.practicingoilanalysis.com...up=OilAnalysis
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
The crate came with the intake already installed. I did nothing to the engine other that hook everything up, and fill it with oil.
yeah, this wasn't your fault. . . It is DEFINATLEY assembly error. I stand by my original guess of cracked block/head.

I wish you the best of luck getting this straightened out
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bobs77vet
did it have any anitfreeze in it??? doesn't the gycol when it gets mixed with oil do something really bad to bearings?
Thats the least of worries right now. I've never heard of anything like that.
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Originally Posted by turtlevette
Thats the least of worries right now. I've never heard of anything like that.
check this article out
http://www.practicingoilanalysis.com...up=OilAnalysis
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Originally Posted by bobs77vet
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Introducing glycol into lubricating oils exposes your machines to a powerful and poisonous mixture of chemicals. Unlike other harmful contaminants such as water and dirt, the destructive potential of glycol can progress to massive failure of machine components in a narrow window of time.
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