yup....i think i would be insisting on a new engine and would not let them clean this one up

 

I'd be going after a refund.

 

yea, i read the article. I doubt 5-10 min run time is going to be a problem. The water reducing the lubricating properties of the oil is a bigger issue. But again not a lot of run time. If its just an intake gasket he could flush that engine and still get a good 60-80k miles out of it.

If the engine mfg will pay labor to install a new engine fine but if its something simple i wouldn't wast my time pulling that engine and putting another in for what you guys are worried about. Run a compression check and check for good oil pressure and keep on vetting.

 

nope.. once you get coolant in the oil passages and into the pan, it pretty much disintegrates the bearings

 

so if he changes the intake gasket and flushes the engine and has good oil pressure will you admit that you are full of crap?

 

not full of crap turtle, it happened in my old pickup. I popped a head gasket, didnt realize it till the engine locked up solid, pulled off the oil pan, the bearings were melted to the crank

 

on a brand new engine why settle for anything less then what it should be? i don't know the extent of the damage the gycol did and is still doing...it will stay corosive until its flushed out some how... if it were an old engine i might ignore it but on anew engine i would want it to be right

 

Sorry to hear of your trouble...I'm sure this will turn out good. There's no doubt in my mind the engine company will make this right.

If it helps, the more I seem to work on my car the more I seem to find...fix one thing and discover two more problems. Still love these things but sometimes you have to wonder why

I'm going the beer crowd on this one.

 

I think the percent of glycol in this case doesn't warrant that concern. Also you must consider the length of time it was in contact, and I have already drained the oil. I would also think that to be a non issue in this case. Now had I a straight mix of glycol and it sat for a period of days in my condition, that might be a different story.

I have already poured one quart of new oil on top of the heads to try help drain some of this crap out. As the oil cooled it got thicker and thicker and was draining pretty slow.

I probably need to go ahead and pull the oil pan off and scrape it clean as well, but will probably run a couple of more quarts thru the system first.

Just don't want that chit in their any longer than it has to be.

 

i blew a head gasket in Northern New Hampshire on the way to Canada and just turned around and drove the damn thing home around 200-300 miles. Put around 30 gallons of water in it. Temp gauge went in red half a dozen times in the process. Water in oil. Had both heads shaved and it still runs like a raped ape. That was last summer and have been using the car all winter.

They're probably just gonna tell him pull the engine and send it back, so our discussion is a moot point. He's out a bunch of his time.

 

Just to commiserate.....shortly after I bought my '70 I tore the motor down to check the internal condition. It looked remarkably good (46000 showing on the clock) so I directed my to-remain-nameless machinist to shave the stock pistons .040" (dropping the CR to 9.25:1),hot tank the heads and block, lightly hone the block,grind the valves, and balance the rotating assembly. Nothing else. When I got my parts back the heads had been milled....."How much?" I asked. He told me "5 thou..." I put the motor back together and put it back in the car (no small chore on a C3 as y'all know), fired it,broke in my new cam, and proceeded to notice 1 qt. per 75 mile oil consumption. Turned out that my numbers-matching heads got ANGLE-milled (a trick Chevy circle track racers do to bump compression) and were sucking oil through the head-to-intake joint. After changing intake gaskets, doubling gaskets, using thick gaskets, trying an aluminum intake, etc.,etc. I finally pulled the motor out, having convinced myself that it was bad ring seal rather a leaky intake. Had the block bored .030" and put a Summit piston kit in it (which of course required rebalancing), reassembled it, put it back in, fired it up- SAME DAMN THING. Pulled it back out, tore the heads off, and had the intake faces squared by a machine shop that knew what they were doing. EUREKA!! I have now put over 30,000 miles on it, and it runs like a top. I have literally thrown together smallblock chevys that RAN GOOD from a pile of greasy parts in my driveway, but for some reason this thing was just diabolical....for awhile anyway. Didn't mean to dive bomb your thread, but hang in there- you'll get it straightened out eventually. I have run into machine shops that have been in biz for a good long time and they for some reason aren't aware of the chevrolet small block's demonic penchant for occasionally sucking oil (or blowing coolant) through the intake joints. Godspeed

 

its still in contact with the bearings as we speak....now did you flush it out of the bearings? thats what it is eating up.

 

TTT

 

I hate to hear things like this because we all know how much effort goes into it. I know this does not help very much but (trying to make a little lemonade here) I would rather this happen in the garage, rather than 500 miles from home and just out of warranty. Good luck.

 

I'm going to have to agree with previous posts. Since this is a new motor, I'd either get a refund or a new motor, I think repairing this one should be out of the question, unless they're willing to completely tear it down and rebuild it.



Sorry to hear about the bac luck......

 

Well guys, I grealty appreciate the support. It's not the end of the world, but it really pissed me off.

The first call is in and I have a claim number. Clarence the "claim specialist" is suppose to call me this morning to discuss the next move. First call was okay, but he did mention that the motor was dynoed before it shipped..."bend over".

 

Call back and tell Clarence that he don't want a bunch of pizzed off rednecks comming to see him!! If they will not warranty this, they can forget about selling any other engines to form members. Tell him its his rep. on the line and to date 1233 people are watching this thread.

 

Get the rope boys... we got a hangin..

 

Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe you could change the thread name or start a new one titled "Look what happened to my Blueprint (AKA Marshall) engine". Get the guys email address and send him a link to it.

 

good luck and make some notes for the second call...develop a script and don't deviate from it