New crate engine is now a steam engine....bad problem...
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Melting Slicks
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From: Madison Ms
Originally Posted by PolishMike
I think its on you now....
Sorry but there is no way in hell that did not overheat. Either that or you ****ed timing up real bad and it detonated, but theres no way it will do that at idle.
Im gonna have some ***** and say its your fault. Sorry.
Sorry but there is no way in hell that did not overheat. Either that or you ****ed timing up real bad and it detonated, but theres no way it will do that at idle.
Im gonna have some ***** and say its your fault. Sorry.
Yep, it may very well be my fault, and I'm willing to accept that.
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From: Forked River NJ
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Rut Row......good think I still have my 350 block. Looks like I may eat this puppy. To be honest, the damn uncapped headers were so loud, I couldn't hear if was detonating or not.....
Dayum.....
Dayum.....
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From: Duvall, WA
Originally Posted by PolishMike
I think its on you now....
Sorry but there is no way in hell that did not overheat.
Sorry but there is no way in hell that did not overheat.
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St. Jude Donor '11, '16-'17
When you get it put back together, buy some exhaust flex tube and some clamps from autozone, then hook your headers up to the rest of your exhaust. As fun as it is to run open headers, you want to hear internal noises of a brand new engine.
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From: Madison Ms
Originally Posted by rcread
It seems like the pressure cap would have given way and would have been spewing fluid if it had overheated enough to do that type of damage. Assuming it's functional of course.
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From: Tracy Ca
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
Never steam, or dropped any fluid. Did not go over 210, and my gauge appears to be accurate.
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
Originally Posted by Twin_Turbo
the top ring land broke usually a sign of detonation, chan ces are the cylinder wall is cracked in that cylinder.
might as well rotate the crank and see.
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From: Tracy Ca
Originally Posted by turtlevette
I don't see how he could have cracked a cylinder. That would definitely be a warranty item.
might as well rotate the crank and see.
might as well rotate the crank and see.
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From: Stafford Virginia
I'm thinking defect here....seriously, the timing would have to bad enough that it would have been noticeable. Remember the plug is clean as a whistle like it hasn't fired, or very very few times.
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From: Madison Ms
I did not put a timing lite on it. Guilty of that, but it cranked on first start and will backed it down to get the idle rpm set right. I had it idling at around 900 rpm. It was considerably faster before we backed the timing down by playing with the distributor. The timing could have been a little fast, but I wouldn't think it was that much off.
Maybe someone will learn something from this....I sure did.
Good news is I still have my original 350 block, can reuse almost all of the parts, so I just build the biatch back even stronger.
I must say, that sob had some serious power, and that 1/2 mile run was more joy than I have ever had in the vette!!
So we move on......
I'll let blueprint make the call, and will talk with them in the morning. But I think there's a good chance that I'll loose any fight. Probably don't have a fight.
As I think I'm going to have a few more than last night!
Maybe someone will learn something from this....I sure did.
Good news is I still have my original 350 block, can reuse almost all of the parts, so I just build the biatch back even stronger.
I must say, that sob had some serious power, and that 1/2 mile run was more joy than I have ever had in the vette!!
So we move on......
I'll let blueprint make the call, and will talk with them in the morning. But I think there's a good chance that I'll loose any fight. Probably don't have a fight.
As I think I'm going to have a few more than last night!
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From: Forked River NJ
I would not give up that easily. Your timing would have to be way off and probably would not idle very well if it was that screwed up. It will be their decision but put the pressure on them.
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St. Jude Donor '11, '16-'17
Originally Posted by MsVetteMan
I did not put a timing lite on it.
You're a lot braver than I am. How much did you spend on that motor? I think a cheap timing light is $30, and an adjustable one is $60 at Sears.
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From: Madison Ms
Originally Posted by Zixxer
I'm thinking defect here....seriously, the timing would have to bad enough that it would have been noticeable. Remember the plug is clean as a whistle like it hasn't fired, or very very few times.
Edit: Oh....I haven't shown y'all that....coming up....
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From: Madison Ms
Originally Posted by The_Dude
You're a lot braver than I am. How much did you spend on that motor? I think a cheap timing light is $30, and an adjustable one is $60 at Sears.
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St. Jude Donor '03,'11
hold on a minute. Don't give up yet. I've never seen an engine grenade so fast from advanced timing. You should have heard some clattering over the exhaust.
What if we got the order of what happened wrong.
what you're assuming now.
1. Timing was too far advanced.
2. Broke piston.
3. Piston chunk cracked cylinder or head.
4. Water got in oil.
what if:
1. Engine cylinder or head leaks coolant.
2. You get hydro-lock and bust the piston.
What if we got the order of what happened wrong.
what you're assuming now.
1. Timing was too far advanced.
2. Broke piston.
3. Piston chunk cracked cylinder or head.
4. Water got in oil.
what if:
1. Engine cylinder or head leaks coolant.
2. You get hydro-lock and bust the piston.
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Don't throw in the towel yet, let them make the diagnosis, if you start blaming it on yourself at this point it will be almost impossible to reverse that if something is found that makes it look like their mistake. Just do as they tell you and don't offer any more info at this time. It is still up in the air as to what happened isn't it ?
Still haven't answered my question about any RTV present around the water passages, looks like that milky stuff leaves a trail right to the water ports on the underside of the intake
Still haven't answered my question about any RTV present around the water passages, looks like that milky stuff leaves a trail right to the water ports on the underside of the intake
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From: Tracy Ca
Originally Posted by turtlevette
1. Engine cylinder or head leaks coolant.
2. You get hydro-lock and bust the piston.