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Old Dec 5, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy
my dad has a friend who used to go dumpster diving at Lions drag strip for everyone's used bearings. So I totally hear what you're saying, but think your advice is premature.

This is his first engine, and putting one together correctly is hard enough when you've never seen it done (meaning never did it with your own hands on your own motor) first.

But I agree that putting a motor together on a top ramen budget should be required learning for anyone who calls themselves a hotrodder. I've emery clothed bearings, cranks, cams, used a paper bag for a head gasket, even touched up valves with a file and a drill motor - but I'm glad I didn't start there.... my first motor was a disaster because the machine shop messed up - so they fixed it (without much whining either, surprisingly)....
Man I scored today! One of the techs at my shop agreed to help me with the rebuild!!!! I also spoke to mrmaxxman this weekend and he only lives about 30 min from me and said he would assist too..

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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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I must admit that all these years have taught me a little about what I could and couldn't get away with (Paper Bag head gaskets???WTF????),
on a 2 stroke Yamaha scooter.... it's amazing what will work if you'd rather not walk. I spend a bunch of my free time doing search and rescue (mostly because I love four wheeling) - and it continues to amaze me the ways people will engineer themselves out of a bad situation.... it also continues to amaze me how much all the stuff I carry with me now (because I'd rather not do the field engineering.... aka bubba engineering)

to get paper to work, you need to paint the paper
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 12:12 AM
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Man I scored today! One of the techs at my shop agreed to help me with the rebuild!!!! I also spoke to mrmaxxman this weekend and he only lives about 30 min from me and said he would assist too..
major thumbs up
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 01:48 AM
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on a 2 stroke Yamaha scooter.... it's amazing what will work if you'd rather not walk. I spend a bunch of my free time doing search and rescue (mostly because I love four wheeling) - and it continues to amaze me the ways people will engineer themselves out of a bad situation.... it also continues to amaze me how much all the stuff I carry with me now (because I'd rather not do the field engineering.... aka bubba engineering)

to get paper to work, you need to paint the paper
These are just a few of the skills you must develop when you start messing around with Fiats!


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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by FatCat
Man I scored today! One of the techs at my shop agreed to help me with the rebuild!!!! I also spoke to mrmaxxman this weekend and he only lives about 30 min from me and said he would assist too..
That is great! You'll see its not hard but detail is important! Most of engine building is repetitive. Its gaining the knowledge of the engineering and the amazing way they make these engines last with the clearances and tolerances of all the moving parts!

I'll tell you one of my biggest screw ups. I assembled a whole Chevy 427 and I forgot the oil pump drive shaft. So being a know it all kid I dropped the shaft in from the top without the little plastic coupler. Ran great until the weather got cool and the oil got thick. Fired it up and revved it .....that was it for the oil pump, snapped one of the tangs off and no oil pressure!!! Wiped out the cam within a few minutes and then I heard the tapping of the lifters collapsing. All because I was to lazy to drop the oil pan in the car. So my advise to you is click your shaft to the oil pump as soon as you finish tack welding or screwing your pick up tube on your pump
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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man your moving right along with this !!!!
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by scottyp99
These are just a few of the skills you must develop when you start messing around with Fiats!


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It's in the Fiat 101 course
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Going to pick up my block tomorrow and hope to decide what I need from there. Stay tuned! Any thought on my 78 with fiberglass floors?
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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My guess with the floors is that they were rotted at one time and rather than fixing them the proper way someone just slopped a bunch of sealer on the floorboard to keep them relatively intact. Just another one of those things that you will have to address eventually.
Good Luck!
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FatCat
Going to pick up my block tomorrow and hope to decide what I need from there. Stay tuned! Any thought on my 78 with fiberglass floors?
definitely not factory, but if they are sturdy, look at it as a plus, they are much lighter then my steel floors. this will come in handy next time that mustang pulls up next to you and "wants some.."
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug1
definitely not factory, but if they are sturdy, look at it as a plus, they are much lighter then my steel floors. this will come in handy next time that mustang pulls up next to you and "wants some.."
Hahaha! I am going to have to inspect more! I looked tonight underneath and it all looks stock. Maybe someone at some point just coated the metal and it looks and feels like FG. There is deffinetly no cut outs or anything that I can tell under the car. Guess Ill pull the carpet back a bit.
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 08:56 PM
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Hahaha! I am going to have to inspect more! I looked tonight underneath and it all looks stock. Maybe someone at some point just coated the metal and it looks and feels like FG. There is deffinetly no cut outs or anything that I can tell under the car. Guess Ill pull the carpet back a bit.
you got one of those magnets for when you drop a bolt,nut, or socket, it retrieves it? if so, see if it sticks,,,,
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug1
you got one of those magnets for when you drop a bolt,nut, or socket, it retrieves it? if so, see if it sticks,,,,
Oh Great thought! I am headed to the garage! BRB
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Doug1
you got one of those magnets for when you drop a bolt,nut, or socket, it retrieves it? if so, see if it sticks,,,,
YUUUP! Metal! HAHAHA, you all must be thinking what an idiot!
So the good news is they are good and solid with some kind of coating on them...
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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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great thread FatCat,too many good memories.mite your budget allow for some dart iron heads ?looking forward to your body paint thread.keep up the great work.
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So I am planning for the future! Here is what I have in mind for paint on the block


What say you?!?! I have decided since this car is not all original, I might as well make it look original to me!

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Old Dec 6, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by garygnu
great thread FatCat,too many good memories.mite your budget allow for some dart iron heads ?looking forward to your body paint thread.keep up the great work.
Thanks brother! Jump in the middle of this thing! Tell me more about these dart iron heads and expect my teachers to this point, to give input! Several of the guys on this thread have earned my trust to the end on this project...
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 01:34 AM
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So I am planning for the future! Here is what I have in mind for paint on the block


What say you?!?! I have decided since this car is not all original, I might as well make it look original to me!
I like the color, but........what the heck is it?


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I like the color, but........what the heck is it?


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glad I'm not the only one trying to figure out what it is....
I'm still not sure about the color, looks like what you would see in the Japanese cars of today's youths.....
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Old Dec 7, 2012 | 08:25 AM
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I have no idea what is it! I just had been flirting with this color and found this picture online. Hahaha
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