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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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George they look great and I'd like to come by some time after the holiday and see them in person.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
Overall, the shroud came out pretty slick, but I would personally want the top of the projector covered by the shroud. You've got to design for best production and most popular look, and I understand that.

How easy would it be to "add" to the shroud? E.g. could I use glass or body filler to build a cover over the back of the light from the beauty ring to the top of the "tube" in your shroud? To my taste, that would make the shroud about a 9/10
I was thinking the same thing.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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I was thinking the same thing.
Me three.
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Originally Posted by DevilMan02
Absolutely amazing work you're doing. I definitely admire it--but I do want to voice my concern about the brightness and angles you're using. I hope this doesn't end in a flame war but there are a LOT of ricers here in florida that have rediculously bright HID's in their ****box aimed directly into my mirrors to burn my retna. It's like staring at the sun when i try to drive home.
This is because the ricer noobs have HID bulbs in their OEM housings. this creates a TON of glare because the reflector housing wer never designed to tolerate that much light output. The projector optics i'm using will give an output similar to high end mercedes, bmw, lexus and the like. The projector focuses the light into a specific pattern designed NOT to put light above a certain height (aka the cutoff line) The corvettes headlights are already sitting at the legal minumum headlight height of 24". By aiming the high part of the cutoff at 24" (zero degrees elevation) your light will not be in the mirrors of eyes of oncoming or same-direction traffic.

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I would personally want the top of the projector covered by the shroud. You've got to design for best production and most popular look, and I understand that.

How easy would it be to "add" to the shroud?
ABS is one of thosee joyous plastics that can bee easily "welded: to itself using MEK (commonly available at hardware stores) You will need to melt some ABS shavings in the MEK, then use it as a glue to melt your new pieces to the existing shroud. You will obviosly need to sand down the finished product but when the MEK dries, the ABS beecomes one solid piece. A note about adding in that area though, there is a VERY small clearance from the projector top to the bottom of the lens, you may not have a lot of space to work with. Make sure to test fit your design.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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A note about adding in that area though, there is a VERY small clearance from the projector top to the bottom of the lens, you may not have a lot of space to work with. Make sure to test fit your design.
I honestly think people are going to mess up their shrouds by trying to tweak them. They look pretty good as they are, if you are concerned with the top of the projector being exposed, the EASY fix for that is paint an eyebrow on the lens.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
I honestly think people are going to mess up their shrouds by trying to tweak them. They look pretty good as they are, if you are concerned with the top of the projector being exposed, the EASY fix for that is paint an eyebrow on the lens.
Very good point.
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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
I honestly think people are going to mess up their shrouds by trying to tweak them. They look pretty good as they are, if you are concerned with the top of the projector being exposed, the EASY fix for that is paint an eyebrow on the lens.
I will be painting my lens.

thought on lens painting: lay a LOT of transparent scotch tape (the type in the green) over the lens. with a pencil, draw a line where you want the paint to start. then gently cut away the tape from the section to be painted. This will also let you see if your paint line will affect your output.


First road test tomorrow!!

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I don't really want to change or "tweak" the existing shroud. Just something about it that I don't like. Just like to have something closer to a C6 style shroud.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
I will be painting my lens.

thought on lens painting: lay a LOT of transparent scotch tape (the type in the green) over the lens. with a pencil, draw a line where you want the paint to start. then gently cut away the tape from the section to be painted. This will also let you see if your paint line will affect your output.


First road test tomorrow!!
Yea, if I paint the lens I will test it by taping off where it is im going to paint to see if it would affect it any. Can't wait to see the road test

PS..I may even go to my friends place who does vinyl graphics and see if he has something that I could use as a eybrow instead of paint. I know some of that vinyl is pretty shiny and it would be removeable

Originally Posted by Lancejoker
I don't really want to change or "tweak" the existing shroud. Just something about it that I don't like. Just like to have something closer to a C6 style shroud.

Im not trying to knock anyone for doing it if you pay for them you can do as you please. I know that George had said there wasn't much room to make the shrouds similar to the C6. If you can make it happen, then by all means do
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 04:35 AM
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can't wait to see the finish product ...
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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Is all the noise about shroud not covering the tops of the projectors because of sun possibly damaging them or just for asthetics?
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TheRadioFlyer
Ahh the new AOD bulbs (antimatter optical discharge) bulbs. They no power source, only a contact trigger. They also come with a metamorphic projector that adapts to weather conditions, speed, direction and will automatically strobe if a cell phone signal is detected in front of you

BRILLIANT!!
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I decided to do some more data gathering. First up: projector pattern width with and without the shroud. First, I measured width by placing the projector 1 foot away from a flat wall measuring half the useable width in the pattern then with some simple trig calculated the beam width.



The projector itself has a useable width of about 120 degrees... something I consider more than adequate for a sports car. Installing the shroud decreases the width to about 110 degrees, thought a lot of this is due to the lens distortion on the outer edge.


Another subject: the high beam bulb upgrades. This is a test of the 55w halogen base and the HIR bulb. HIR bulb is on the left, base is on the right. This shot is of them on the floor because I didn’t have a good wall to shoot them as comparison shot at the same time. Exposure was set to -1 to show the pattern rather than brightness.



LED strip option. It has been advised that these strips are heat sensitive so I will NOT be mounting these in front of the projectors. My suggestion for these is to mount them across the top either just behind the projector cutouts or all the way to the rear. These test strips have a white circuit board but the ones with the kit will have a black circuit board to blend with the ABS. For best results I would paint an eyebrow on the lens to hide the strip from view except from the front.

Test shots with various settings






And onto the grand finale: the first ever SLC prototype mounted.

Notes: The original design called for tight tolerances, however I’ve learned that it may be better to increase these tolerances to allow for end-user adjustment. This will be reflected in the production version. The prototype is a little “rough on the edges” however it’s purpose is to test performance, durability ease of installation and various adjustments.

The SLC frames and projector mounted;


The following outdoor pics were taken at -2 exposure to better show the outline of the lights and the pattern. For some reason this drastically affected how the camera picked up color. The HID kit used is a 6000K 55w HID and the highs beams are the base model halogen.

Low beams only:






Pattern at ~15’


High beams:



High beam pattern at ~15’


Lows and Highs:


high/low pattern at ~15’ exposure and ISO setting reduced to show pattern comparison. This is VERY bright.


First road test notes:
The beam pattern is significantly wider than my E55 projectors. It is by far the most stable setup I’ve yet installed. The pattern has a rather large step and a sharper cutoff than the LC 2.0s.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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Sweet, looks good!! Now the real question...when do they start shipping
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And the other real question... what's with the dog?
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The dog is actually an animatronic, laser canon equiped sentinel. Crime is pretty bad in Houston area.
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Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Sweet, looks good!! Now the real question...when do they start shipping
I am going to run the prototypes for a day or two while i wait for the final version of the shrouds to be finished. If there is any tweaking or adjustments that ned to be done, i want to know about it before i send them out.

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And the other real question... what's with the dog?
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The dog is actually an animatronic, laser canon equiped sentinel. Crime is pretty bad in Houston area.
you know me too well.
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Old Nov 24, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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i know some others dont, but i dig those LED strips.
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George, is there a HID high beam option? Also can these be made to run all 4 lights at once when the high beams are selected?

Or can you just install aircraft landing lighs in them??

Yes, I want to disturb the dead.
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Originally Posted by TXZ0603
George, is there a HID high beam option? Also can these be made to run all 4 lights at once when the high beams are selected?

Or can you just install aircraft landing lighs in them??

Yes, I want to disturb the dead.
HID high beams are not an option due to clearance issues. I'm checking to see if there's a way around this, but so far no luck. The Hi-4 relay circuit will be included with the base kit.
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