Why don't you go to extreemboost.com. They will show you what the mr2 is capable of. Also try garageadvance.com they made 612 hp on there stock block mr2, with there on turbo kit.

 

Why do you think anybody here cares you can get 500-600 hp out of a 4cy?
Given any amount of money you can make alot of cars with 600hp. Big woopie do. You think we cant get 600hp out of a Z :rolleyes:
The point is that just because someone can put $30-50k into a car to make it fast does not make it a great car- it still can be a big pos.
I know a guy with a 4cy dodge neon that runs 12's on the bottle. You think for one minute anyone here would trade there stock 12 sec Z06 for it :lol: :lol: You need to go watch the fast and furious again- it seems to be your type of movie. :lol: :crazy:


[Modified by zul8r, 8:10 AM 1/28/2003]

 

So, what was your point. The first site lists only Supra parts. One of the ir project cars was a t78 Supra single making 750, and another at a claimed 1000HP.... Nothing listed about an mr2.

The second one... Well you mis-spelled the name... But, they actually did sell some MR2 parts. They had two "project"cars on the site, but every time I tried to view the dyno charts it said they were unavaliable.

Now, looking at the mods this cat has to support that level of boost. Well, that is equivilant to building any full race motor no matter what platform it is in...

Here is a list of his mods...
• 3SGTE Short Block with Custom Darton
Ductile Iron Sleves.
• Custom Clevite Main, Rod, & Thrust
Bearings Kit.
• Custom JE 8.5:1, 86mm Stock Bore Pistons.
• HKS Cam Gears.
• "Shimless Bucket" Conversion.
• Ferrea Stainless Steel, Stock Size Intake
& Exhaust Valves.
• Custom JE Anti-Detonation Rings.
• Crower Billet 4340 Steel Rod Set.
• HKS 1.0mm Head Gasket.
• ARP Head Studs. ARP Main Studs.
• ARP Flywheel Bolts.
• GFB Light Weight Aluminum Crank &
Pully.
• DPR Cylinder Head.
• All Ceramic Coating Work by SWAIN
Technologies.
• Custom Titanium Retainer Set.
• HKS 85lb Valve Spring Set.
• Porting, Polishing, Valve Work, & Chamber
Work by Dan Paramore Racing Heads.
• HKS 272 Intake & 272 Exhaust Cams.


So, what you are talking about in terms of an LS1 in comparable terms (realated to the level and cost of these modifications) to this project car is a 422in or larger darton sleeved stroker, head and cam car, etc., etc... Not to mention his upgraded turbo...

Or, alternately a 408in supercharged or nitrous motor...

Gee, nice try... Color me, not impressed...


Oh, and if you want to race a single turbo car. I have one that is black it's just over 3.8 liters, and its American made.... Here is the only picture I have right now, its old, but it give you an idea....



[Modified by J-Rod, 6:49 AM 1/28/2003]

 

:lolg: :lolg: :lolg: :lolg: :lolg: :lolg: :lolg:

 

J-rod need I say more. This site will really let you in on the true potential of the 2. http://www.warp1.com.au/~saf/3sgte.html If you really want to race an mr2 let me know, we can set it up if your ever in Houston. Just ask Conley racing whatever there name is there in Houston. I ran one of there Grandnationals at the track and walked it. He ran a 12.1 at 114 and I ran mine at 11.5 at 125mph. This is all stock bottom end with stock head and upgraded turbo at 22psi. Whatever hp you can make on your C5 I can match it. SO go ahead and buy an MTI stoker and get 500-575 hp kit for 20 something thousand dollars and I can match that without taking the motor apart. So if you want to do it for money let me know. Also check out the supraforums under other cars and see there talking about the potential of the 2


[Modified by turismo22003, 2:40 AM 2/5/2003]

 

From the above listed site:

"And dont forget the MR2 ("M"id mount "R"ear wheel drive "2"L) . This is a fine sports car for 2 that is the Japanese version of the Ferrari." :skep:

 

Hey Dorkismo, get the hell outta here!!!!!!!! :boxing :boxing

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
There IS a breaking point with these little 4-6 cylinders your talking about. If you think for 1 minute that they have more potential then a Z06- you are CRAZZZZZZZYYYYYYY! I knew you were a few bricks shy of a full load- but thats rediculous!

I Mr2 or supra or whatever other pos you want to refer to- yeah sure they could make 500hp and whip a Z06. But there no placement for displacement- if you get my drift. In the long run a 600hp Z06 will hold up and be worth a heck of alot more then some 6 cylinder import thats about to fall apart. You can add only so much boost to a stock bottem end- and I am sure that much more then 20lbs and its not going to hold up long. You take something like a LPE 427 TT making 700-800hp running 9's in the qtr- that will hold up alot longer than any import pushing 20+lbs of boost with a stock bottem end.
Its all about $$- whoever is willing to put the most in- will eventually win!!!

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I find these posts very entertaining!!! :lolg:
All I know is that I have a BAD-AZZ RIDE!!
I don't care how fast you can make some import POS, I'll take the vette any day
any car that sounds like someone farting into a microphone is just not my style
ok kids, continue the debate....
who knows, maybe you will convince me to sell my vette and buy a galant
:lurk:


[Modified by BlazeSkywalker7, 12:06 AM 2/5/2003]


[Modified by BlazeSkywalker7, 12:07 AM 2/5/2003]

 

turismo,

The web-site you posted does nothing more than prove J-Rods point. All those cars on there are all out race cars with just about every single engine component replaced or very expensive tuner cars. Do you think you'd have Rod Millen do a 500hp Celica for a few grand in bolt-ons and labor??? You sure sound like you'd like us to believe something to that effect. Lingenfelter does EPA legal and warranteed 500hp+ supercharged Corvettes for about $8,500 - turn key, out the door.
http://www.lingenfelter.com/pac350magscc5.asp

That's 500 or more hp depending on if's its a LS1 or LS6. 100% stock internals with a warranty Is there an import tuner that will match that? ...turn key, EPA legal 500+hp, 100% stock internals, warranteed on 91-93 octane for $8,500 including both mods and labor? Let's see the import that offers that.

Isn't such a butt of you to come here telling us about your crap when you don't even know about Corvettes? I'd bet there are trolls, like yourself, that you could relate to on the message boards you're part of(MR2? Toyota?) Don't you kind of get it now? :troll :seeya


[Modified by LmtdLC2, 8:12 AM 2/5/2003]

 

First of all when you have more reciprocating parts, there is more cause for disaster. Right? Secondly I've had my car for 2 years running 22 psi, not everyday but on weekends. Daily it is set to a modest 17psi. I've never encountered any problems with my motor. I've posted my dynoe charts on supra forms an on mr2 furoms, can you say 419 at 22 psi on race gas. The head has never been off the car. No cams, no porting and polish, no nothing. Thirdly, turbo cars usually have a higher tolerance when it comes to making more power than n/a blocks. Also, a turbocharged for cylinder running say a t78(which I am currently putting on) is pushing more cfm than a stroked out v8. Thats why are cars do so well. I've posted numerous times where my motor is utilized in different car wheter it be in trucks, cars, whatever. In case you forgot here is the same link http://www.warp1.com.au/~saf/3sgte.html.

 

What point? My point is these cars are utilizing the 3sgte to make there power. These motors have been pushed to 712hp on there stock blocks. 1400 fully built. This is a 4 cyl. Granted it does take alot of money to get to 1400hp but it is done. 500-700hp is nothing. I've spent less than 7000 including the turbo kit(3300) and look at my hp there over 400 on a stock motor. Have you heard of Bob Norwood? He's built countless mr2's over 500 on there stock blocks, and over 800 on methanol. Ligenfelter is now in the import seen isn't he? I wonder why. He's see's the market is growing and is taking full advantage of it. Ligenfilter might be offering a supercharger for 8500 dollars but your only making what 100 hp more for that amount. Damn! Like I said my car comes stock 245(japan motor) so I'm making close to 500 hp at the crank thas almost 250 more hp than stock for a fraction of the cost. ALso Greedy make a epa,carb legal turbo kit and a full warranty buddy.

 

Did I miss something??????

POS with 100HP :U
POS with 200HP :U
POS with 500HP :U
POS with 1000HP :U

What's the common denominator?? Yep, you guessed it = POS !!!!

No matter what you do to it, it's still a dinky little import that was not meant to go that fast.

As far as your 1400hp out of a 4 cylinder goes, just doesn't matter. With enough money, the LS6 could probably put out 2000HP. But by then, it bares no semblance to a factory LS6. It's a custom built race motor, and with it's bigger displacement, it will ALWAYS outperform your wind up motor.

I can't believe I'm adding to thins thread but I just had to.

By the by, has anyone noticed that the eBay auction never hit reserve....gee, I wonder why?? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

 

I believe that is GREDDY ... :thumbs:

 

What is the advantage of having a high HP MR2 over even a stock Z06? The only advantage I see is it can cost less money if speed is your only thing (which you can't legally use on the street).

1. Z06 looks better.
2. Z06 handles better.
3. Z06 sounds better.
4. Z06 has a better interior.
5. Z06 has more class.
6. Z06 has a long Corvette heritage + legend.
7. Z06/Corvette has a professional racing history including wins at Le Mans.
8. Z06/Corvette owners will never appreciate an MR2 like they do a Z06/Corvette, even if you put a rocket engine on it and send it to the moon.
9. A four cylinder engine will always have less potential than a V8: it's cubic inches and basic physics. V8 hemis make 4000+ HP. No 4 cylinder can touch that.
10. Please post a picture of your car. It's OK if its computer generated. Gran Turismo 3 A-spec is a great game on the PS2. In the computer generated world I drive a C5R :steering:

 

My quote.

I'm just repeating myself and asking all of Z06ers, why do we humor the trolls? :confused: :confused: :confused:
:troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll :troll

 

This just in from Internet Central!


The threads responding to this post have been voted the most silly on the internet for the year 2003. Normally awards for the year would actualy wait for the year to finish before making the presentation. However, in this case the committee making the judgement has decided to go ahead and make this award, as they see no way anything could possibly top it within the calendar year, so have buggered off to warm climes to drink Mitai's and contemplate their fortune to have gotten this ugly business over with so soon.

:party:

The comparisons and justifications for repsonding to any challenge a 4 door passenger sedan might present a Corvette ZO6, Can only be compared to the great "Things I love in in red" debacle of 2001, where the discussion of differences between a Radio Flyer wagon and a Ferrari Testerosa exploded into a nine hundred and twenty three thread rage. The number of cars brought into the discussion totalled more than seven hundred, plus a refrence to a Schwinn Apple Crate bicycle - that launched a new tirade that inlcuded a reference to Ducati Motorcycles, which subsequently spun off the face of the earth and has not been seen since. The entire process ended only after someone pointed out the reference was to color, where the orginal post was simply waxing nostalgiac about their favorite colors of red, from childhood to adult hood.

The poster (who shall remain nameless) who offered to show eveyone his favorite color of red , by ripping the head off the next poster referring to is Yugo as a cubist interpretation of a pile of elephant dung, has since apologized.

We should all be proud to have played a role in such a monumental accomplishment.

:cheers: :hurray:

 

Z06 looks better, I doubt it. It surely doesn't sound better. You can't compare the sound of a turbo spooling. An mr2 will run circles around you on the track. The interior of the vette doesn't even come close to the style and grace of the 2. If you want to compare championships I suggest you turn to speedvision and see who is in the top three finishes in the jgtc. There are supras,vettes,vipers,ferrari,etc. The supras and mr2's are using the 3sgte motors and are in the top 3. As far as your statement about cubic inches and basic physic the only pertains to n/a vs n/a not turbo vs n/a. I guarantee you I push more cfm on my turbo that I'm in the process of using(greddyt78 kit) than you with your v8. Like I said before, I've proven my point against ls1. z06, and the new supercharged mustang and if you want I'll take your money too.

 

We'd probably agree to give you some money if you would just go away :nopity


BTW, if you are driving the "ultimate" performance machine, why does your CF profile list a Diesel Pickup Truck?? :skep:


[Modified by TexasRedZ06, 6:06 PM 2/5/2003]

 

Just go here and there are people discussing about the topic http://www.supraforums.com/showthrea...hreadid=101414