Vitesse Throttle Controller - Wow!
Instructor
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From: McDonough GA
Vitesse TC
That's outstanding for the "05" guys, now we can all be happy no matter which mod that you choose. Enjoy.
Racer
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From: DFW TEXAS
Pro
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From: Surprise, Arizona
In 2017 Gm is coming out with the all new redesign of the Pontiac Trans Am.. lol
Not going to happen!
Last edited by yellowmnm; Jan 16, 2016 at 07:18 PM.
Racer
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From: DFW TEXAS
Let's use a little common sense here! GM will not approve any after market products for their cars unless their the one that is making it. Or they have teamed up with and were involved in the testing of the product. Just not going to happen. Even when the product is improving a flaw in design. Like here's one for you.
In 2017 Gm is coming out with the all new redesign of the Pontiac Trans Am.. lol
Not going to happen!
In 2017 Gm is coming out with the all new redesign of the Pontiac Trans Am.. lol
Not going to happen!
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From: St. Louis, MO
St. Jude Donor '08
You see how people can be led astray by specious statements.
As noted many times in this thread, and as common sense will dictate, any device or tune that changes the throttle by wire system WILL BE blamed for any problems downstreamwith the throttle by wire system - and any potential problems and liabilities caused by such will follow suit.
So be informed of that and enjoy the fruits of the device or tune, as I have, accepting such responsibility. You will get no warranty nor likely, liability assistance if anything goes wrong.
Racer
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From: DFW TEXAS
I think Trawler was making sarcastic post directed at me.
You see how people can be led astray by specious statements.
As noted many times in this thread, and as common sense will dictate, any device or tune that changes the throttle by wire system WILL BE blamed for any problems downstreamwith the throttle by wire system - and any potential problems and liabilities caused by such will follow suit.
So be informed of that and enjoy the fruits of the device or tune, as I have, accepting such responsibility. You will get no warranty nor likely, liability assistance if anything goes wrong.
You see how people can be led astray by specious statements.
As noted many times in this thread, and as common sense will dictate, any device or tune that changes the throttle by wire system WILL BE blamed for any problems downstreamwith the throttle by wire system - and any potential problems and liabilities caused by such will follow suit.
So be informed of that and enjoy the fruits of the device or tune, as I have, accepting such responsibility. You will get no warranty nor likely, liability assistance if anything goes wrong.
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Instructor
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From: McDonough GA
Vitesse TC
OK, I'm open minded. Has anyone done a side by side test of these things? Not he said, she said. I'd like to know the difference as I have the Vitesse and am happy, but you guys with the COW booster seem happy also. My decision to go with Vitesse was based on the claim that "No one can do what I can to your car". I have bolt-on mods, an HP tune and tweak to the A6 as well as a ported TB, but the addition of the Vitesse made the car more fun to drive based on how it felt to me. Nothing technical that like time slips or dyno, just seat of the pants. Thatnks.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I can tell you from experience that a ported throttle body is a waste of money. I have one, no difference. I sought it long ago before the cow tune arrived, to cure the sluggish throttle and it did NOT do anything.
And, I've seen many of them fail after a while. The throttle body is very sensitive and any errors will cause the computer to go into limp mode for liability reasons.
And, I've seen many of them fail after a while. The throttle body is very sensitive and any errors will cause the computer to go into limp mode for liability reasons.
Instructor
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From: McDonough GA
Vitesse TC
I can tell you from experience that a ported throttle body is a waste of money. I have one, no difference. I sought it long ago before the cow tune arrived, to cure the sluggish throttle and it did NOT do anything.
And, I've seen many of them fail after a while. The throttle body is very sensitive and any errors will cause the computer to go into limp mode for liability reasons.
And, I've seen many of them fail after a while. The throttle body is very sensitive and any errors will cause the computer to go into limp mode for liability reasons.
Melting Slicks
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From: On the east coast we drive until we die
OK, I'm open minded. Has anyone done a side by side test of these things? Not he said, she said. I'd like to know the difference as I have the Vitesse and am happy, but you guys with the COW booster seem happy also. My decision to go with Vitesse was based on the claim that "No one can do what I can to your car". I have bolt-on mods, an HP tune and tweak to the A6 as well as a ported TB, but the addition of the Vitesse made the car more fun to drive based on how it felt to me. Nothing technical that like time slips or dyno, just seat of the pants. Thatnks.
Melting Slicks
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From: Bossier City Louisiana
I guess it's a "your mileage may vary" type thing. I started with a stock 05 and added an airaid and a vmax ported TV. The throttle response improved as well as the sound from my Corsa Extremes. I then added the cow booster and full tune. Car became a monster. Chuck confirmed that adding a ported TB is an extra "push" for the booster.
Melting Slicks
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From: North Carolina
My bad. Apologies for the unwarranted sarcasm. Didn't catch the context.
I'm so used to the CoW crowd jumping in on these threads, and who knows what stories he's sold while pushing his product anywhere he can on the forum.
Instructor
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From: McDonough GA
Vitesse TC
I guess it's a "your mileage may vary" type thing. I started with a stock 05 and added an airaid and a vmax ported TV. The throttle response improved as well as the sound from my Corsa Extremes. I then added the cow booster and full tune. Car became a monster. Chuck confirmed that adding a ported TB is an extra "push" for the booster.
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From: Henderson Nv-Rohnert Park/Sonoma C o. ca/born in NY Rockaway Beach.
I don't believe there are any side by side comparisons between the Vitesse, CoW, and Sprintbooster. Theoretically, they all do the same thing. Mr. CoW was hinting at dissecting the Vitesse and showing everyone the "flaws" in it's design but how unbiased could those results be? It sounds as if your decision to purchase the Vitesse was based on the impression a certain competing tuner left with you and your initial opinion was probably the correct one. If you're happy, there's no reason to change.
When I had my SC a6c6 with 550hp it was cool to use for off the line to tone down the throttle for off the line, the I could hit the button and set it to the highest setting at about 1000ft,,, not that it really helped I didn't get a chance to test the VTC more cause I got rear-ended and the car is now gone.... so I have a brand new VTC sitting on the work bench waiting to go in....
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From: St. Louis, MO
St. Jude Donor '08
I don't believe there are any side by side comparisons between the Vitesse, CoW, and Sprintbooster. Theoretically, they all do the same thing. Mr. CoW was hinting at dissecting the Vitesse and showing everyone the "flaws" in it's design but how unbiased could those results be? It sounds as if your decision to purchase the Vitesse was based on the impression a certain competing tuner left with you and your initial opinion was probably the correct one. If you're happy, there's no reason to change.
Sprint and Vitesse are piggyback electronic devices. Cow booster is a tune adjustment. Two approaches to the same goal.
Sprint and cow allow 3 settings (some years two on cow I think). Vitesse has 9 settings. I tend to find the one I like and leave it (like my seat). Actually I use two on mine, one street, one track.
Instructor
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From: McDonough GA
Vitesse TC
They all do the same thing. Increase the ramp rate of the throttle blade opening compared to the accelerator pedal depression (subject to torque management and traction control oversight)
Sprint and Vitesse are piggyback electronic devices. Cow booster is a tune adjustment. Two approaches to the same goal.
Sprint and cow allow 3 settings (some years two on cow I think). Vitesse has 9 settings. I tend to find the one I like and leave it (like my seat). Actually I use two on mine, one street, one track.
Sprint and Vitesse are piggyback electronic devices. Cow booster is a tune adjustment. Two approaches to the same goal.
Sprint and cow allow 3 settings (some years two on cow I think). Vitesse has 9 settings. I tend to find the one I like and leave it (like my seat). Actually I use two on mine, one street, one track.
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St. Jude Donor '08
Please understand, I'm just a satisfied customer of the cow boost. I think any of the three are terrific products and really change the dynamic of the car.
Burning Brakes
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From: Lexington South Carolina
I installed the Vitesse a little while back and was using the #7 setting. I then installed a supercharger and the throttle was way too sensitive. I was able to dial it back to #3 to make it more manageable. Mine is also my daily driver, so when I get caught in the rain, I dial it back a little more.
The best part about the Vitesse is the adjustment on the fly. I don't think you can do that with the "others"
The best part about the Vitesse is the adjustment on the fly. I don't think you can do that with the "others"