Another Paint Defect Thread
Team Owner
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Great... I thought the issue areas were the outer corners. This thread made me look closer around the inner sides of the headlights... I've got it there too. Mines a '14 with 44k miles that was well cared for my the previous owner. I'll just touch them up when I swap the grill.
People who swear this is a rub issue... The C5 bumper and fender touch... I've had 4 and none of them had this. The bracket that holds the fender and bumper together goes on tight.
Have a lot of body shop experience too... this is a prep issue. These corners/edges aren't getting prepped right. Either the mold release agent isn't getting removed fully or something is contaminating these parts of the fascia.
Rubbing would mar the paint and dull the finish, but not make it flake/chip off like this... rubbing might exacerbate the issue, but the root issue is an adhesion problem.
Last edited by RapidC84B; Nov 29, 2017 at 11:18 PM.
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Team Owner
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Little things... a wire was run for a radar detector and there's a broken clip on the passenger side quarter interior trim... just dumb used car stuff.
Have to keep reminding myself there are no perfect cars let alone perfect used cars
Heel & Toe
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This is NOT a paint issue. This is a bumper fitment issue. It will continue to happen until someone does the simple job adjusting the bumper down a little by using the bolts at the headlight.
What is happening is the panels are flexing and rubbing on each other. It's an easy adjustment, I had to do it after pulling my bumper off for mods.
What is happening is the panels are flexing and rubbing on each other. It's an easy adjustment, I had to do it after pulling my bumper off for mods.
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2013
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From: Dayton NV
This guy knows what he's talking about. As a quality engineer myself, this is exactly the issue. Fitment of the bumper being too close to the fender/hood. When you go over bumps, the sudden movement causes the parts to make contact. Gap is too small causing the flexing to not have enough tolerance.
1. Dealer needs to order a new front and rear bumper, pre painted from the factore.
2. Dealer needs to reinstall these pieces making the correct fitment adjustments so that the problem is not repeated.
Anyone have a TSB on this?
Thank you for any help.
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Burning Brakes
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From: MV CA
[QUOTE=strotter13;1596806084]So is there a TSB I can reference when i bring this into my dealer tomorrow?
Just bought this car yesterday. Discovered front and REAR bumper paint chips. As well as under sprayed rear hatch.
No TSB needed, every dealer should have experienced this at least once. Happened to me on my 2014, dealer fixed it. I wonder if the 2018 models done in the new paint facility will have this issue?
Just bought this car yesterday. Discovered front and REAR bumper paint chips. As well as under sprayed rear hatch.
No TSB needed, every dealer should have experienced this at least once. Happened to me on my 2014, dealer fixed it. I wonder if the 2018 models done in the new paint facility will have this issue?
Burning Brakes
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From: MV CA
no touch up, they should know how to make it look like new, if not go to next town to another dealer. Calling GM is not an option.
Racer
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From: rutherfordton North Carolina
St. Jude Donor '11
Well, I have a new 17. Yes, it has a place up front in a gap, on a crease. So, I talked to the dealer, and going to bring it in for them to see and get the process started. Also, my back left rim has a 4 chip places in it on one of the spokes, they are painted black rims. I dont have but 815 miles on it. I love my car, and I hope it will not be a hassle to deal with these issues.
Instructor
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From: Dayton NV
Went and dropped mine off at the dealer today. My sales guy looked up all the threads and is going to fill in the service dept. tomorrow (he is a good dude).
Anyhow while we were there, the sales guy and I looked at all the other vettes on the lot. All were fine except the one other yellow one on the lot (its a z06). It has the same defect in the exact same spot on the rear bumper, and the same defect on the driver side head light.
Sounds like they are going to take good care of me. Also found underspray (not enough paint) on an edge of the passenger fender and rear hatch.
At this point it is looking like a new fender, hatch, front and rear bumper.
Im wondering what they (GM) will say.
Ill keep everyone posted of the outcome.
Anyhow while we were there, the sales guy and I looked at all the other vettes on the lot. All were fine except the one other yellow one on the lot (its a z06). It has the same defect in the exact same spot on the rear bumper, and the same defect on the driver side head light.
Sounds like they are going to take good care of me. Also found underspray (not enough paint) on an edge of the passenger fender and rear hatch.
At this point it is looking like a new fender, hatch, front and rear bumper.
Im wondering what they (GM) will say.
Ill keep everyone posted of the outcome.
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First picture looks like it will buff out and second and third picture try dabbing the area with a fine paint brush and no repaint on your cars history.
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2013
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From: Dayton NV
Went and dropped mine off at the dealer today. My sales guy looked up all the threads and is going to fill in the service dept. tomorrow (he is a good dude).
Anyhow while we were there, the sales guy and I looked at all the other vettes on the lot. All were fine except the one other yellow one on the lot (its a z06). It has the same defect in the exact same spot on the rear bumper, and the same defect on the driver side head light.
Sounds like they are going to take good care of me. Also found underspray (not enough paint) on an edge of the passenger fender and rear hatch.
At this point it is looking like a new fender, hatch, front and rear bumper.
Im wondering what they (GM) will say.
Ill keep everyone posted of the outcome.
Anyhow while we were there, the sales guy and I looked at all the other vettes on the lot. All were fine except the one other yellow one on the lot (its a z06). It has the same defect in the exact same spot on the rear bumper, and the same defect on the driver side head light.
Sounds like they are going to take good care of me. Also found underspray (not enough paint) on an edge of the passenger fender and rear hatch.
At this point it is looking like a new fender, hatch, front and rear bumper.
Im wondering what they (GM) will say.
Ill keep everyone posted of the outcome.
Second, if the vehicle was not under warranty and had more than 36,000 miles on it (it has 50 miles on it) then yes a little half *** paint brush touch up would be fine.
Bottom line is that this is a brand new car. They can send a new bumper with correct paint and adjust it correctly so the chipping doesn’t happen again. I won’t settle for less than that.
Racer
Joined: Jul 2016
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From: N.E. Ohio
Well, I have a new 17. Yes, it has a place up front in a gap, on a crease. So, I talked to the dealer, and going to bring it in for them to see and get the process started. Also, my back left rim has a 4 chip places in it on one of the spokes, they are painted black rims. I dont have but 815 miles on it. I love my car, and I hope it will not be a hassle to deal with these issues.
I am trying to find another wheel brand or finish for the OEM wheels that is more durable.
I also have some chipping on one body panel joint that I am going to touch up myself.
Drifting
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If it was just rubbing it wouldn't flake off like that. That's a paint adhesion issue due to poor surface prep or an issue with the paint itself, or some combination. If it was painted properly and was rubbing, the paint would be worn where it rubbed but it wouldn't be flaking off like that.
Melting Slicks
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From: Nashville TN
If it was just rubbing it wouldn't flake off like that. That's a paint adhesion issue due to poor surface prep or an issue with the paint itself, or some combination. If it was painted properly and was rubbing, the paint would be worn where it rubbed but it wouldn't be flaking off like that.