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Old Oct 8, 2023 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LS WON
So if you can only have one of these 2 cars, the C8 Corvette or the Porsche 911 as an everyday driving commute car, which one is better?
For the price of a 911 GTS, we have two C8s. Both are daily drivers and together they carry 4 people
But to be honest, if I lived in a large city where parking may be difficult, I would not have a C8 as a daily driver. I am lucky to live in an area where I have no real concern driving around in my C8.

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Old Oct 8, 2023 | 01:04 PM
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My newest vehicle is a 2014 Mazda 3. It has never had software bugs, despite the fact that it has the tech package and super capacitor. My wife's vehicle is a Lexus hybrid. Again, never a problem.
Consistently throughout the years, Toyota/Lexus and Mazda have ranked at or near the top of manufacturers rankings for most to least overall reliability. GM is always among the lower half.
You're joking right??? NEVER a software problem with a Japanese car???
Why don't you tell the truth and just admit that you are one of those types that hates everything "American" and just knows that everyone else in the world does it "better" ??? Japanese cars? BETTER! European cars? BETTER!!! Korean cars? BETTER!!!

Any device with millions of lines of code has bugs. Whether you want to admit it or not.
https://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/n...e82629612.html
https://www.clickondetroit.com/consu...oftware-error/
https://www.edn.com/toyotas-killer-f...-consequences/

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Old Oct 8, 2023 | 04:31 PM
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I used to hate everything about American cars until……….the C8. Now I naturally keep an eye on GM vehicles. I’m very impressed with the Blazer (petrol & electric versions). My neighbor has a Silverado High Country and it’s hella plush. I went on a ride and didn’t want to get out of the truck
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Old Oct 8, 2023 | 04:51 PM
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I’m not sure how a sticky for real world C8 problems turned into a manufacturer discrimination thread Now with that said, I’ve had a wide variety of makes and honestly GM has surprisingly been near the top and I have no reason to choose one or another brand.

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Old Oct 8, 2023 | 04:53 PM
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When I took delivery of my C8 the salesman set my password in the car-I did not write it down. how can I reset it?

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Old Oct 9, 2023 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Red rag
I’m not sure how a sticky for real world C8 problems turned into a manufacturer discrimination thread Now with that said, I’ve had a wide variety of makes and honestly GM has surprisingly been near the top and I have no reason to choose one or another brand.
The worst ever car I bought was a Toyota Corolla. We bought it new, I think a 1986 or 1987 model. The car was the last year they were carbureted and the engine never worked right, but that was not the worst problem. The windshield was not glued like it is now on most cars, there was a rubber gasket around it but it was apparently not supported at the bottom so it slid down over time by about an inch such that there was a 1/4" gap at the top with the roof so that rain entered under the roof. It sounds incredible but that happened almost immediately and we dismissed it and only realized the damage after the warranty period was out. The entire roof and A pillars started rusting from inside, bubbling the paint and it rained in the car. We got rid of the car after 3 years for a song.
I believe they were made in Mexico.
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Red rag
I’m not sure how a sticky for real world C8 problems turned into a manufacturer discrimination thread Now with that said, I’ve had a wide variety of makes and honestly GM has surprisingly been near the top and I have no reason to choose one or another brand.
Corvette forum will Corvette forum. This way they make the C8 problems look smaller.
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TARANTULA
Corvette forum will Corvette forum. This way they make the C8 problems look smaller.
And why are you still on this forum? It's clear you don't own a C8. Just here to troll, or try to push more Porsche propaganda in hopes it raises values?
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 10:42 AM
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I was a long time Porsche owner. Ordered a 2022 C8 because I truly dislike the Indigo group who bought the two local Porsche dealers and combined them. Since the purchase the whole feeling at the dealership has changed. They are generally very arrogant as a whole and treat you like they are doing you a favor selling you a car and servicing it. They also built a new Ferrari dealership right next door. Life’s too short to deal with that kind of attitude just to have a car. Porsches are good cars but I have choices where I can get my C8 serviced. Sam
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TARANTULA
Corvette forum will Corvette forum. This way they make the C8 problems look smaller.
Ridiculous. I've had one Corvette out of the five I've owned - a C6 - that I would consider problematic. I realize there are thousands of C6 owners out there with zero problems. My other four Corvettes have only needed normal maintenance in the 30+ years I've owned them.
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 04:57 PM
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The problem is newer vehicles are exponentially more prone to issues, so comparisons with the past are not really valid IMO. But talking about the present, and the DCT in particular, even BMW shied away from those even on M cars, due to the extra complication, lack of reliability, and most importantly, the newest torque-converter autos shift just as fast, while being dead-stone reliable. I drove one, and couldn't even tell it wasn't a DCT, and I owned a PDK Porsche not long ago. So not sure why GM decided on a DCT, especially from a newcomer, knowing there would be a lot of issues the first few years. Porsche still uses it, but the ZF is miles ahead of Tremec, due to 15+ years of being in the market (vs 3+). Plus a lot less maintenance requirements (officially, every 120K miles, or 12 years). Hopefully GM/Tremec made other changes for '24, along with the new case, to improve reliability. I'll be watching for that.
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Old Oct 10, 2023 | 07:05 PM
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I believe one reason is that DCTs have lower driveline losses than autos.
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 05:45 AM
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Good luck finding a torque-converter auto transaxle for a mid-engine configuration with enough gear sets...then out of those, if there are any, find one that can handle the torque of the LT2.
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Old Oct 11, 2023 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by winders
Good luck finding a torque-converter auto transaxle for a mid-engine configuration with enough gear sets...then out of those, if there are any, find one that can handle the torque of the LT2.
And that has the input shaft on the bottom and output shaft on the top to allow lower mounting of the engine/transaxle.
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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LE MANSZ
And why are you still on this forum? It's clear you don't own a C8. Just here to troll, or try to push more Porsche propaganda in hopes it raises values?
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Didier9
The worst ever car I bought was a Toyota Corolla. We bought it new, I think a 1986 or 1987 model. The car was the last year they were carbureted and the engine never worked right, but that was not the worst problem. The windshield was not glued like it is now on most cars, there was a rubber gasket around it but it was apparently not supported at the bottom so it slid down over time by about an inch such that there was a 1/4" gap at the top with the roof so that rain entered under the roof. It sounds incredible but that happened almost immediately and we dismissed it and only realized the damage after the warranty period was out. The entire roof and A pillars started rusting from inside, bubbling the paint and it rained in the car. We got rid of the car after 3 years for a song.
I believe they were made in Mexico.
I once read about a 100 years old man who smoked cigarettes, yet lived a good long life.
Consumer Reports has consistently ranked GM well below average for reliability throughout many decades. Toyota/Lexus has always been among the top three. Our 2006 Lexus RX400h, which is not simple, technologically by any stretch of the imagination, is now over 18 years old and has never had a driveability issue related to mechanical or electronic failure - not one. We really are spoiled, especially by its reliability of electronics. Yes, this is also just one example, but I can assure you that no Lexus forum has an issues folder that is anywhere near as lengthy as this one.

But we all have choices and thus risk in whatever we buy. Good luck with your C8. I honestly hope you don't go through what I did with GM products..
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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave68
I once read about a 100 years old man who smoked cigarettes, yet lived a good long life.
Consumer Reports has consistently ranked GM well below average for reliability throughout many decades. Toyota/Lexus has always been among the top three. Our 2006 Lexus RX400h, which is not simple, technologically by any stretch of the imagination, is now over 18 years old and has never had a driveability issue related to mechanical or electronic failure - not one. We really are spoiled, especially by its reliability of electronics. Yes, this is also just one example, but I can assure you that no Lexus forum has an issues folder that is anywhere near as lengthy as this one.

But we all have choices and thus risk in whatever we buy. Good luck with your C8. I honestly hope you don't go through what I did with GM products..
When you mention Lexus perhaps this might be a good car for you to get?
The thing is that this model has only been around since 2021.
The IS 500 grades come with a 472-hp 5.0-liter V-8 and rear-wheel drive only. An 8-speed automatic is the transmission for rear-wheel-drive models and a 6-speed is fitted to those with all-wheel drive.
Other configurations are: IS lineup for 2024. IS 300 grades come with a 241-hp 2.0-liter turbo-4 and the choice of rear- or all-wheel drive. IS 350 grades come with a 311-hp 3.5-liter V-6.

$41,235 for the IS 300, at $44,410 for the IS 350 F Sport Design, and at $60,020 for the IS 500 F Sport. The most expensive grade is the IS 500 F Sport Premium, which starts at $64,520. All figures include a $1,150 destination charge.



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Or go the more expensive route

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Originally Posted by Dave68
My newest vehicle is a 2014 Mazda 3. It has never had software bugs, despite the fact that it has the tech package and super capacitor. My wife's vehicle is a Lexus hybrid. Again, never a problem.
Consistently throughout the years, Toyota/Lexus and Mazda have ranked at or near the top of manufacturers rankings for most to least overall reliability. GM is always among the lower half.
My daughter has a 2016 Mazda 3 and it's an absolute tin can POS. I wouldn't own it as a gift if I had to keep it. You act as if the only reason the Lexus and Mazda dealers have service bays is for oil changes, it's not the case. They lose engines, transmissions, etc. just like everyone else. Why is it GM cars NEVER get any recognition? My last GM car was a 2015 Buick Regal, went 187,000 miles and it was bone dry underneath it. Oh yeah, the original brakes still had 50% pad life left. Zero engine, transmission, AC, electronics, or any system issues. Oil changes and plugs at 100K miles, but that's right GM cars are junk and Japanese cars are built by Jesus on second shift.
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My daughter had a Lexus. Biggest POS I have ever seen.

At least they put the BIG L on the front for LOOSER.

Finally lemon lawed it and she got a Chevy Malibu. Sold it with 160k miles. Still see it driving around.
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Would anyone else like to see this Sticky thread "C8 Problems" get back on topic? I would.



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