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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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My favorite is having to remove the license plate to open the rear hatch...always keep a quarter or small multi-tool with you, would suck to get stuck with groceries back there!
There is a lock back there behind the plate. Why GM did not go with a swinging plate for access is annoying considering I grew up with this kind of thing on a 56 Chev Belair as a kid.

... and there were swinging rear plates too on some cars.



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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 10:43 AM
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The issue with the updates is amazing to me. I bought a 2020 Silverado 2500HD Z71 Duramax last year with all of the electronics they put on those trucks. I've had two updates on it. One of them failed the first time but it worked the second time I did it. The second one worked with no issues. The battery has never been a problem with that truck because of an update. I know it doesn't have all of the microprocessors the C8 has, but it does have a lot of electronics on it.

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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Brett_A
There is a way to open if you have a dead battery. It's included in the manual. They didn't make it easy, granted, but every entry or hatch has a manual method.
Thanks for the reminder. Page 19 of the OM for Driver's door. I suggest everyone looks at least once to see it. It is NOT obvious because you have to insert the the key (inside the fob) up vertically vs horizontally. I never saw it when I was installing my side inlet covers.

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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 11:55 AM
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Update to dead battery issue: got a fix that does not involve flatbedding to dealer (assuming battery isn't damaged). I had first been using the CTEK (Corvette, from GM, plugs into port in ) charger to try and charge it back up, which kept failing. So I switched to a small Durabuilt charger which I've owned for a number of years and works great, connected directly to the battery terminals, and it failed, indicating a short in the battery. BUT, I posted about this in another forum, and was advised to disconnect the negative terminal and *then* try to charge. Bingo! It is now happily charging back up, no flatbed needed!! So now I just need to figure out how to kill that f***ing OTA update once I get it fully charged back up (assuming it holds a charge at that point)!!! Anyone know how to do this?

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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JVi
There is a lock back there behind the plate. Why GM did not go with a swinging plate for access is annoying considering I grew up with this kind of thing on a 56 Chev Belair as a kid.

... and there were swinging rear plates too on some cars.

Yeah! I remember a car from like the 70's that a buddy of mine had (LeMans or something like that--I think) that had the gas fill behind the plate. That would be handy here, to be sure.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 12:02 PM
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Hopefully GM is reading about all issues associated with the latest OTA update, delivery 3 weeks ago, 180 miles, $90K car, totally unresponsive, only things that work are door locks, mirrors and info center (Battery is NOT dead), everything is due to the latest update, all was good before Friday when I accepted the install. Stuck in park, tow truck is in route. What a POS.....this is my last GM, this is ridiculous. I've owned around 25 new cars in my lifetime, I have NEVER-EVER had an issue like this with a brand new car. GM, get you chi.....together or stop making cars/trucks.
That is a total bummer and I would be/will be as frustrated if things go that way when I receive my car (June 28 TPW). We should not have to consider this, but I wonder if when updates come around, can you refuse or delay the update until convenient to get to a dealer and let them deal with it in case there are issues like yours? Ie, (I'm asking because I do not know) could you drive the car and just keep bypassing the update? Again, shouldn't have to but I am trying to preplan these things for when I actually have my car to mitigate downtime. Hope you get the issue resolved quickly!
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JVi
There is a lock back there behind the plate. Why GM did not go with a swinging plate for access is annoying considering I grew up with this kind of thing on a 56 Chev Belair as a kid.

... and there were swinging rear plates too on some cars.

Because the "kids" (Tadge must have skipped this part) building and designing these cars don't know what you know. It's why knowing your history is important - hence your ability to recall and produce examples of ideas which though old, might have worked better even on a modern supercar.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by improviz
Update to dead battery issue: got a fix that does not involve flatbedding to dealer (assuming battery isn't damaged). I had first been using the CTEK (Corvette, from GM, plugs into port in ) charger to try and charge it back up, which kept failing. So I switched to a small Durabuilt charger which I've owned for a number of years and works great, connected directly to the battery terminals, and it failed, indicating a short in the battery. BUT, I posted about this in another forum, and was advised to disconnect the negative terminal and *then* try to charge. Bingo! It is now happily charging back up, no flatbed needed!! So now I just need to figure out how to kill that f***ing OTA update once I get it fully charged back up (assuming it holds a charge at that point)!!! Anyone know how to do this?
There must be an awful lot of power draw for it to look like a short to a charger. One should not have to disconnect terminals, but glad I learned about the option.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 01:15 PM
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For those who have had to have (or did have) their car(s) towed with a dead battery,.... How did they get it into neutral so it could go on the flatbed, or did they use wheel dollies, or was there enough juice to ge the car in neutral (or does the engine need to be running to do that too?)
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 01:39 PM
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For those who have had to have (or did have) their car(s) towed with a dead battery,.... How did they get it into neutral so it could go on the flatbed, or did they use wheel dollies, or was there enough juice to ge the car in neutral (or does the engine need to be running to do that too?)

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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by C8J
There must be an awful lot of power draw for it to look like a short to a charger. One should not have to disconnect terminals, but glad I learned about the option.
Agreed, kind of strange...never had to do this with any other car before.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by E TKIT RIDE
That is a total bummer and I would be/will be as frustrated if things go that way when I receive my car (June 28 TPW). We should not have to consider this, but I wonder if when updates come around, can you refuse or delay the update until convenient to get to a dealer and let them deal with it in case there are issues like yours? Ie, (I'm asking because I do not know) could you drive the car and just keep bypassing the update? Again, shouldn't have to but I am trying to preplan these things for when I actually have my car to mitigate downtime. Hope you get the issue resolved quickly!
Yes, it does give you the option of declining the update.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 02:34 PM
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The techs have a tool to manually put it in neutral. Sooooo if you dont have a spare C8 tech then it gets dollied
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JVi
There is a lock back there behind the plate. Why GM did not go with a swinging plate for access is annoying considering I grew up with this kind of thing on a 56 Chev Belair as a kid.

... and there were swinging rear plates too on some cars.

Iwas going to post the same thing. You just beat me to it. I totally agree. Maybe the reasoning was wanting to avoid a slight increase in cost?
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by improviz
Yeah! I remember a car from like the 70's that a buddy of mine had (LeMans or something like that--I think) that had the gas fill behind the plate. That would be handy here, to be sure.
Cadillac's had that also, behind the tail light. Don't remember the year. As a 13 year old pumping gas at a Standard station, I had to become familiar with all the hidden places. There were quite a few.
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by improviz
Update to dead battery issue: got a fix that does not involve flatbedding to dealer (assuming battery isn't damaged). I had first been using the CTEK (Corvette, from GM, plugs into port in ) charger to try and charge it back up, which kept failing. So I switched to a small Durabuilt charger which I've owned for a number of years and works great, connected directly to the battery terminals, and it failed, indicating a short in the battery. BUT, I posted about this in another forum, and was advised to disconnect the negative terminal and *then* try to charge. Bingo! It is now happily charging back up, no flatbed needed!! So now I just need to figure out how to kill that f***ing OTA update once I get it fully charged back up (assuming it holds a charge at that point)!!! Anyone know how to do this?
Update: battery charged full-up successfully. Will reattach the negative cable tomorrow morning and see how it goes, definitely keeping battery shroud off until this is resolved! I hope that stupid OTA doesn't try to reinstall itself once the car gets power, anyone know how to prevent this?
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Old Jun 15, 2021 | 10:43 PM
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Can you buy on the aftermarket the custom Corvette cigarette-lighter plug factory charger that was a 100.00 option?
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 12:19 AM
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Update: battery charged full-up successfully. Will reattach the negative cable tomorrow morning and see how it goes, definitely keeping battery shroud off until this is resolved! I hope that stupid OTA doesn't try to reinstall itself once the car gets power, anyone know how to prevent this?

Simply dont push the install icon, Cant recall at the moment, but I think in settings you have the option to download in background or not. i'd have to check again, someone around here will know, or just simply check your manual. Good luck
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 10:05 AM
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Simply dont push the install icon, Cant recall at the moment, but I think in settings you have the option to download in background or not. i'd have to check again, someone around here will know, or just simply check your manual. Good luck
Yeah, the problem is I already approved its installation a few weeks ago, it failed several times, and kept trying. So I assume that it still retains this info and will, like the little engine that could, try try again. So hopefully I can figure out a way to kill it off.
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Old Jun 16, 2021 | 11:45 AM
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Just had my first check engine light come on. 2020 Z51 1LT. Not sure how long it was on because nothing changed in the performance of the car when I was driving it to the store. I was in a store parking lot when I noticed it. I to run into a store for something unrelated. When I came back after 20 minutes and started the car the light was gone. Scanned the for codes when I got home and got P0700 and P2856. I’ve seen P0700 and P2855 on the forum, but not P2856. Dealer can get me in the earliest next Tuesday to check it out. Opinions on driving it til then?
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