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Old Dec 16, 2024 | 10:08 PM
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Wow, just came across this tread! I was looking to trade my ER Cpe in for an HTC but after reading this, I may just stay with the coupe. Glad to see ppl sharing this great info. in an attempt to help others out!!
I had my HTC for 13,000 miles now and have put the top up a minimum of 500 times if not 700+ times or more. No issues so far. My point is that this known issue with the cables would not deter me from buying a HTC again. The recent solutions make me believe so even more that I would purchase again. I do believe that the cables should be more robust. I have not looked in great detail of the whole design of the mechanism, but my theories on the cause of them snapping are:
  1. Abrasion of the cable at the box top plate
  2. Poor feral connector at the cable end in the box.
  3. Extreme resistance in an un lubricated cable housing that causes higher than expected force at the end of the cable and causing #1 and or #2.
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Old Dec 17, 2024 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CRUZ1NN
I had my HTC for 13,000 miles now and have put the top up a minimum of 500 times if not 700+ times or more. No issues so far. My point is that this known issue with the cables would not deter me from buying a HTC again. The recent solutions make me believe so even more that I would purchase again. I do believe that the cables should be more robust. I have not looked in great detail of the whole design of the mechanism, but my theories on the cause of them snapping are:
  1. Abrasion of the cable at the box top plate
  2. Poor feral connector at the cable end in the box.
  3. Extreme resistance in an un lubricated cable housing that causes higher than expected force at the end of the cable and causing #1 and or #2.
Or a heat affected zone on the cable. My understanding is the ferrule is cast onto place. Poor process control could allow the the cable to become brittle in that area and reduce the number of cycles it takes to fail from fatigue.
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 03:39 PM
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I recently bought an HTC and noticed that the folding nacelle tips don't extend and retract in sync with each other. They are off from each other like half of a second. After some examination I noticed that the one that retracts later has much more slop in the cable that runs to the pivot bracket than the other side. The one that retracts earlier has very little slop close to none. This makes me wonder how they are controlling the cable lengths when they cut and attach the retainers during manufacturing. If they vary quite a bit in length from cable to cable, I can definitely see situations where there is no slop to negative slop (binding) which would cause significant stress on the cable and retainers which would eventually cause them to snap. The out of sync folding bothers me but I'm unsure if I should request them replace the cable for one that could possibly end up snapping.

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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 04:04 PM
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If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Old Dec 19, 2024 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by IDBNVS2
I recently bought an HTC and noticed that the folding nacelle tips don't extend and retract in sync with each other. They are off from each other like half of a second.
Mine of slightly out of sync and have been that way after 700+ ups and downs. No problems to report to date.


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Old Dec 23, 2024 | 11:37 AM
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If this continues to work I suggest making a seperate post detailing the repair so it can be made a sticky in the DIY section.
Well, the stock cable has slipped in the crimp. I don't think that the cable on the car is actually 1/16". That is the size of the cable that I bought and the crimps that I used, very close but doesn't feel exact. Still operational, but not happy with it. Going to bite the bullet and get a replacement cable. Hopefully GM comes up with a better design.
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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 10:49 AM
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$425 later, driver side replaced, that was with a 15% off coupon.
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Old Jan 16, 2025 | 11:55 AM
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$425 later, driver side replaced, that was with a 15% off coupon.
Thank you for the update.
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Originally Posted by Slare
I don't have a part in front of me but if the cable is similar to a bike brake cable, and just has a metal **** on the end that has broken off inside the black composite housing... the answer depends on if there is enough cable left to use to re-secure it. If there is, you can ball up the end or crimp something else on it and epoxy it all together, and it can be just as strong (but look goofy). If there's not enough cable to work with, you're stuck.

The real thing to look out for is a update to the part. Will be interesting to see if it's a quality problem with the cables or a design problem that needs a stronger cable end.

Edit - eh, there's a picture further above that shows the cable looks to have a disc or T on the end of it, that the held in place by the black box. So 99% chance they're breaking off at that connector. In that picture you can see the little end **** inside the box, with the cable fed through the slot. I wonder if some cars are a little out of alignment or something gets bent and the cable is rubbing on the black slot and side loading the cable a little back and forth. Cables like this won't last long with that happening.
if that’s the case, perhaps we can add some sort of epoxy to strengthen it before it breaks?
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This just happened to my 2024 HTC with 5300 miles. Except, BOTH cables broke at the same time?? And, it just so happens that it occurred within hours after getting the first complementary oil change performed at the dealer. Coincidence? WTH?
Is there a TSB on this about an improved design/part?

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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rome5982corvette
This just happened to my 2024 HTC with 5300 miles. Except, BOTH cables broke at the same time?? And, it just so happens that it occurred within hours after getting the first complementary oil change performed at the dealer. Coincidence? WTH?
Need to start carrying spare HTC cables like we used to carry around spare tires.
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by at7000ft
Need to start carrying spare HTC cables like we used to carry around spare tires.
I think spare zip ties would be more appropriate for a quick "get me home" solution.
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Old Jan 30, 2025 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by hdrider1
I think spare zip ties would be more appropriate for a quick "get me home" solution.
Right, already carry a couple of those.
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Old Jan 31, 2025 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hdrider1
I think spare zip ties would be more appropriate for a quick "get me home" solution.
This. I carry a few in my glovebox just in case. As long as I can get the roof closed, the car is still functional. Heck, if you had to, I've heard of people holding the flap while the top closes. would need two people unless you're a contortionist, and you'd better watch your fingers.
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Old Feb 1, 2025 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rome5982corvette
This just happened to my 2024 HTC with 5300 miles. Except, BOTH cables broke at the same time?? And, it just so happens that it occurred within hours after getting the first complementary oil change performed at the dealer. Coincidence? WTH?
Is there a TSB on this about an improved design/part?
Something is very suspicious with both cables failing at the same time.
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Old Feb 1, 2025 | 10:49 AM
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Good information, as I was considering an HTC for my next C8, my first C8 was an HTC for about a month or so. GM should have addressed this after years ago!
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Old Feb 4, 2025 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by at7000ft
Need to start carrying spare HTC cables like we used to carry around spare tires.
Nah. You ain't changing them in the parking lot. Zip ties are what you need.
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Old Feb 5, 2025 | 06:43 AM
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Cables are very complex, I’m surprised any car company or boat builder can make a cable that doesn’t fail after a few dozen uses. This might be a job for a joint venture between Elon Musk and the Lockheed Skunkworks. Worry not, I will call them and see if it is possible and what it will cost.
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Originally Posted by Fishfryer527
Cables are very complex, I’m surprised any car company or boat builder can make a cable that doesn’t fail after a few dozen uses. This might be a job for a joint venture between Elon Musk and the Lockheed Skunkworks. Worry not, I will call them and see if it is possible and what it will cost.
Keep us updated on that.
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What's a good length of zip tie to carry with us in case of cable failure.
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