He simply should not have chased after him! I agree with you Jack but am just as sad that it always has to go here...

"The Justice Department would not ordinarily investigate such an incident, but the fact that Trayvon was black and the alleged shooter, George Zimmerman, is part white, part Hispanic – and that local authorities declined to press charges against Mr. Zimmerman, even though Trayvon was unarmed – opens the door to a civil rights investigation on grounds the teenager came under suspicion primarily because he is African-American."


Tell me, is THIS a "hate crime"?

Authorities say Mohamed Merah has boasted about carrying out the shootings of three Jewish schoolchildren, a rabbi, and three French paratroopers in three separate incidents over the last two weeks.

 

A big step toward protecting gun owners -

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=50360

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.2213:

 

shot down in Illinois House

http://e-lobbyist.com/gaits/view/385125

Gun sales are soaring -- and here's why

http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_new...y?preview=true

States With the Most Guns in 2012

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...s-in-2012.html

 

This is something feared forever and the main reason many do not want to or will not register guns. Even in Hollywood, they recognized this in "Red Dawn".



I always loved this about Illinois. If you are a non-resident, then anything with a gun automatically makes you a criminal, since the FOID is an ILLINOIS law, not for the other states.

So if you take a gun to a gun range to practice (legal), you cannot because you do not have a FOID card. If you have your own property there, but are legally an out of state resident, you cannot do anything with guns there as you don't have the FOID.





Someone has been reading that thread about CFOT spellers, right?



Looks like you fix the picture. Oh, well, we all do that stuff from time to time. You should see my IMs at work. Dyslexic fingers on half the words.


Misguided? He was delusional. He was one of those guys who probably couldn't make it a a cop, and not even as a rentacop, so he got the only thing left - citizens watch patrol. Suddenly, in his eyes, he WAS the law of that community.

He chased the kid down, and when the kid defended himself (17 is a minor, so Zimmerman is already in trouble for picking a fight with a minor), Zimmerman now gets beat up and then shoots the kid.

And why Sanford is protecting him is beyond me. He should be in jail. This is NOT stand your ground by any imagination. He was looking for trouble. He was the aggressor. He was the assailant.

See what the bill's sponsor has to say about it on CNN.
http://www.ocala.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...20329846&tc=ar

 

I agree. I was being nice. VERY nice.

 

Thank you for pointing out my error Mark.

 

If I hadn't just read that spelling thread on OT about five minutes before this one, I'd have breezed right over it. Timing, it is all about timing.

No offend intended.

 

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Wha...tml?show=votes

Just this easy!

 

http://www.dailyherald.com/article/2...ews/703269927/

Suburban gun shop burglaries raise security issue
Suburban break-ins have some asking if there should be stricter regulations

How did a group of burglars break into a Des Plaines gun shop, swipe more than 200 firearms within about a minute and get away before police could respond?

On the surface, there was little sophistication in the execution of the Jan. 15 burglary at Maxon Shooters Supplies and Indoor Range.

To get inside, masked burglars used a sledgehammer to break through a glass front door and another metal mesh door with safety glass and protective bars. Once in the business, they smashed several glass display cases and grabbed the guns before jumping into an ordinary sedan to escape. The Chicago Police Department's gang investigations division later recovered some of the firearms from a South Side home, leading to the arrest of five teens from Chicago and the South suburbs. Only one, a 17-year-old from Dolton, has been formally charged, but the investigation is ongoing.

While security experts say it's the responsibility of gun shop owners to protect weapons from getting into the wrong hands, there are some who believe stricter regulations are needed at the state level.

The relative ease of the Des Plaines burglary has city officials and law enforcement authorities worried.

“When this break-in happened, it caught everybody by surprise,” Des Plaines Mayor Marty Moylan said. “We were not happy about the ease of the breach of this facility.”

Maxon had been burglarized once before years ago in a similar manner. Its owners, Barry and Claudia Levin, did not return calls requesting comment.

Meanwhile, authorities are looking into whether the Des Plaines heist and similar burglaries at nearly a half-dozen other gun shops statewide — Roselle, Salem, Lockport, New Lenox and Tinley Park — are linked to the same crew, said Special Agent Tom Ahern of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

The common factor in all the burglaries is that the perpetrators are believed to be in their late teens, Ahern said.

“It's a typical smash and grab,” he said. “They get in and out pretty quickly. I'm certain that they would do their surveillance and scope out the security systems (and) what kind of enforcements are on the doors. By the time the alarm company notifies the police, it gives them plenty of time to get away.”

Ahern said in most cases the gun shops are doing the best they can to secure their merchandise.

“There's not much more you can do other than have somebody on watch for 24 hours,” Ahern said. “They don't want to lose these guns. That's their livelihood. And they don't want these guns ending up in the wrong hands.”

Stricter regulations?

There are roughly 750 gun shops in the Chicago area, and about 2,500 firearms dealers statewide.

Yet there are no state or federal regulations on gun shop security other than the Federal Firearms License. Dealers who apply for a license undergo background checks. If everything checks out and they are cleared, dealers must comply with local city ordinances. At present, that is the extent of regulation, Ahern said.

“We can't regulate how they store their weapons,” Ahern said. “Our inspectors would do periodic inspections of the licensed dealer to look at their acquisition and disposition books and record-keeping just to make sure that they are not doing something illegal.”

One expert suggests that owners could take a variety of security measures to slow burglars down, making thefts less likely.

Proposed legislation that would require gun shops to have alarm systems and video surveillance of all the doors and windows has been referred to the Illinois House Rules Committee. The bill's sponsor is state Rep. Esther Golar, whose 6th District includes Chicago's South Side, where many of the firearms stolen from Des Plaines and other gun shops have ended up. Golar could not be reached for comment.

However, influential lobbyist groups are against increased regulations on gun dealers.

Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association, said federal licensing regulations already have reduced the number of gun shops in the state from nearly 9,200 dealers 20 years ago to 2,500 dealers today.

“I'd hate to see government mandate alarms,” Pearson said. “They are very good at mandating and very poor at paying for things. That is actually the gun shop owner's business.”

While the ATF offers training for licensed gun dealers on better record-keeping and how to identify and prevent straw purchases, it's the responsibility of the dealers themselves to make sure their buildings are secure, and it is up to local municipalities to better scrutinize such facilities, Ahern said.

Both Des Plaines and Roselle police departments are working with the gun shops in their jurisdiction to improve security.

The owners of Maxon, which has been operating at 1226 Rand Road for the past 20 years, have plans to expand the gun shop in a new Des Plaines location.

“(The owner) agreed to increase the security, not only (with) security cameras, but also the strength of his facility,” Moylan said. “He's taken measures now, and we are also going to make sure that his new facility is a lot stronger and not as easy to penetrate as his current one.”

Roselle Police Deputy Chief Roman Tarchala said the family that owns The Gun Doctor Inc., 1050 W. Lake St., which was burglarized last October, also has taken steps to correct elements of the security system that were compromised.

Security, response

But perhaps the response time of local police departments also needs improvement.

It's not uncommon for burglar alarms to go through an alarm company first before the local police department is notified, said Algonquin Police Chief Russell Laine, a noted gun expert.

Laine said even if the alarm were to go directly to police dispatch, there still would be a delay in response. The only deterrent to keep burglars from getting away quickly is putting as many obstacles as possible in their way, Laine said.

Securing the building's access points and locking down firearms individually would help slow them down, he added.

Industry experts say the only way to prevent a gun shop from being burglarized is to bolster the facility as though it were a prison.

Neal Lueders, manager of the 30-year-old G.A.T. Guns Inc. firearms superstore in East Dundee, said the facility has never been breached by burglars.

The building is protected by motion and heat sensors, cameras, triple locks on the front doors with metal gates in front of them, and no windows anywhere, he said.

“All the windows on the outside are fake, with the exception of one in the front that is barred and alarmed,” he said. “All of our showcases are smash proof. It's actually like a bulletproof type, so it's very hard to get into. Anything that's within reach of a customer is chain-locked. This is a little fortress.”

The fact that the Des Plaines, Roselle and other suburban gun shops were breached means they didn't have a reliable security system, said Michael Magill, a retired retail security expert and a member of the International American Society of Industrial Security.

Security alarms won't stop thieves from getting away because they are in and out so quickly, Magill said.

Using roll-down steel doors to bolster exterior entrances, using windows and display cases made out of polycarbonate glass, and employing both electronic and physical protective systems to secure the roof, air vents and the exterior walls of the facility should slow down burglars, Magill said.

“To truly protect guns, you need kind of an armored vault where you put them away at night,” Magill said. “The longer it takes for the burglars to get to (the guns), the sooner it is to get the cops there.”

However, Magill acknowledged, installing such security systems can be unaffordable for smaller, mom-and-pop gun shops.

“It's not cheap, but it really works well,” Magill said.

Magill said it's up to each community and its residents to hold gun shop owners responsible.

“The public has to realize what the downside is (of lax regulations),” he said. “If it comes from the state level, (then) you have a more coherent program that more people will get on the bandwagon with.”

 

Slow news day at the Herald, I thought this died down a week after the robbery? Five nabbed, one charged, hmm?

Maxon’s owners fault for tempting those poor kids with their lax security, almost sound like G.A.T. is laying down a challenge.

 

Alert!!! (smart girl BTW)

BARRINGTON, Ill. (CBS) — Police in the northwest suburbs are warning people about someone who has been trying to impersonate them.

As WBBM Newsradio’s Bernie Tafoya reports, last week in Barrington, a man pretending to be a police officer allegedly pulled over a teenage girl who was driving on Northwest Highway.

The Daily Herald reports the man was driving an unmarked car, and used a flashing red light to force the 17-year-old girl to stop.

The girl pulled onto 20th Street near the Foundry Shopping Center. The man said he had stopped the girl for speeding, the newspaper reported.

The girl handed over her driver’s license, but the “officer” seemed to be more interested in personal questions such as where the girl worked and went to school, the Daily Herald reported.

But there was a big tipoff that the man was not a real police officer. He turned off his headlights, which real police officers never do on traffic stops, the Daily Herald reported.

The girl refused to get out of her car when told to, and when asked if she could go, the man said yes, the newspaper reported.

The girl was not threatened or attacked, the newspaper reported.

The man was wearing a dark-colored shirt with a shiny badge over his chest, but there were no other police insignia, the newspaper reported.

If you have doubt as to whether the person pulling you over is really a police officer, you are advised to call 911.


(Always good to tell the bad guy how he can improve on his technique!)

 

It was on the front page this morning.



This doesn't sound quite right. 750 gun shops?

 

Off the top of my head I can thing of about 10. Even counting Dick's, Bass Pro, Wal-Mart and Cabela's the anti's ain't known for accuracy in #s.

Looks like we have A LOT of shopping to do Frank!

 

FYI WOUNDED WARRIOR SHOOTING EVENT

The Second WWP Benefit & Celebration held on Saturday, September 8th, 2012. 9AM - 7PM.
Bristol Shooting Range, Bristol, WI. 53104

Last year we raised $4,000 in cash, & $ 6,000 in prizes & donations.
100 warriors & their familes were present.
**************************************** **************************************** **************************************** ****************
ITEMS NEEDED FOR THE EVENT :

1. Volunteers, could bring a 12, 24 pak of soda, or bottled water, Paper plates, napkins, silverware to the event,
this will help our efforts.
2. Also, a special request to the volunteers. If you have a favorite store you shop, perhaps you could ask the owner or
mgr. for a small donation for the raffle. It does not have to be expensive. Example: small flashlight, gift certificate.
3. We also need people to lend their firearm that day, for the warriors to shoot. Of course you will be present, to show
them how to use the firearm. The warriors will shoot handguns, AR - Rifles, & Shotguns.

4. 9MM, .45 or .223 AR-Rifle Ammo is needed.
5. You can also donate a favorite desert to the event. We appreciate anything you bring.
6. If you know of anyone who is interested in volunteering for the event, please have them contact me via
email or by phone.

We need volunteers for :
A -- MEET & GREET D -- GENERAL HELP G -- CLEAN - UP CREW J -- FIREARM RENTAL
B -- FOOD SERVICE E -- R.O. DUTY H -- SET UP IN CLUBHOUSE K -- AMMO
C-- RAFFLE F -- TRANSPORT I -- KITCHEN HELP L -- COOKIES, CAKE.

Thank you so much for your support,
Deb O'Malley
Event Coordinator
773 497 8543

 

Illinois Lawmaker Pushes For ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/03/...ur-ground-law/

 

Be careful where you keep you guns.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/03/...e-and-hit-her/

 

^^ No doubt a Chicago registered handgun owned by a current FOID card holder.

Extra charges available for firearms accessible to children under 12, no?

 

Michigan - The most important legislation for legal gun owners since the Castle Doctrine and shall-issue is currently under consideration by the Michigan Legislature.

The bill would eliminate county gun boards and allow all CPL holders to be exempt from pistol free zones after additional training.

Senate Bill 59 (S-3) passed the Senate Natural Resources Committee last Thursday. A vote is expected in the full Senate this week. Please call or e-mail your state senator today and ask them to vote YES on Senate Bill 59 (S-3).

 

March 27, 2012 (CHICAGO) (WLS) -- A South Side man found himself locked up along with the man authorities say tried to break into his house after he shot the alleged burglar in the leg.

Chicago police say Anthony Robinson, 19, tried to break into the home of 80-year-old Homer Wright Monday morning, and Wright shot him.

However, Wright is a convicted felon and not allowed to own a gun. So, he is charged with unlawful use of a weapon.

 

"Human beings do have the right to defend themselves,"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...tory?track=rss

Petition here, if ya like.
http://pages.townhall.com/campaign/2nd-amendment